Arenas In The Next Story Mode
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posted04/25/2014 01:58 PM (UTC)by
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Icebaby
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05/27/2008 09:03 PM (UTC)
So I thought it was a really cool way how they established the arenas in the story mode and I was thinking about how the next game will do the same with the arenas. Let's say hypothetically it is based on the fourth and they are going to return majority of the levels that were featured in that game. For those of you who don't remember what the levels were, I'll remind you, and I'm also including Gold:


The Church

The Netherrealm

The Soul Chamber

The Elder Gods

Goro's Lair

The Ice Pit

The Living Forest

Reptile's Lair

Shaolin Temple

The Prison

The Tomb

The Well

Wind World


So, how would you think these levels would come into play with the next game and its story? And could you see other levels from other games make an appearance as well? Or should there be newer arenas THAT MAKES SENSE to have?

I could definitely see the Living Forest make a comeback because it's such an iconic arena, and if it's located in Outworld (right?), and if Outworld makes more of an appearance, we could see this return. And the Prison would be good for any of the characters who might get caught in the Netherrealm (Because isn't that the level that's based on the Prison level in Mythologies?) So we could potentially see maybe these two levels make a comeback... level fatality included as well.

So what are your thoughts?
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KungLaodoesntsuck
12/31/2013 08:01 PM (UTC)
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I really liked The Wind World and The Ice Pit. The Church was really cool too. I really hope they're in the next MK, I would love to see them reimagined.

I could totally see The Wind World being Fujin's stage.
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RazorsEdge701
12/31/2013 11:18 PM (UTC)
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MK4/Gold's stages had some problems.

Like why is Shao Kahn's soul chamber back if the plot has nothing to do with Kahn stealing souls? At the time, Kahn was supposed to be dead and the souls he stole freed and the realms made good again, so why does the Soul Chamber even still exist? And yeah, Goro came back...but his Lair is on Shang's Island. Why are you fighting on Shang's Island, on Earth, during a war where Hell has taken over Edenia?

A lot of the ones that are just brought back from MK1 thru 3 are kinda like that, there for no reason except nostalgia, no importance to the story. MK4 didn't attempt enough to be its own game and come up with new art, I think, because they were too focused on making it 3D for the first time, but still feel like classic MK.

There is SOME excuse with stages like the Living Forest, where before MKDA came out and retconned it, Edenia and Outworld were two names for the same realm, not a good realm merged with a bad one, so Sindel really would be ruling over those old MK2 stages at the time...but there still should've been more new stages depicting, like, a Hell-invaded Edenia which show Shinnok's demons and zombies and the damage they've done, or how Edenia ruled by Sindel is different from Outworld ruled by Kahn, or more areas of Heaven and the Netherealm.

I particularly like the Fire Well and areas from Mythologies like the Prison, or that throne room that has Scorpion's Lair in the background and hope to see more like that. I'd like to see the inside of the Shaolin Temple come back too, but it could be difficult to justify with Liu and Kung Lao both dead. I guess Kai could be there...
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hankypanky1
01/01/2014 01:35 PM (UTC)
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I think only a handful of MK9 stages/arenas whatever u like to call it, should return. But they should be different, so maybe make one unique stage from several mk9 stages. If not they should be making brand new stages. Here are my ideas for new stages/arenas
This thread is for ideas regarding stages. U can talk about any stages from anywhere but explain why u think it would make a good stage choice. U can mention stages from other fighting games, of course NRS will do their own version of it.

I really like northern lights. I think it would make a nice stage for Edenia (when it was beautiful).





Another stage I liked wasThe Grid from Tron.






Another suggeston is a Skybar. This is basically a restaurant/nightclub/bar but it's high up somewhere, so u get a bird's eye panorama of surroundings







Also I really like this so maybe it can be integrated with The Grid or a Skybar or even Northern Lights




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Icebaby
01/01/2014 07:15 PM (UTC)
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hankypanky1 Wrote:
This thread is for ideas regarding stages. U can talk about any stages from anywhere but explain why u think it would make a good stage choice.


No this thread isn't. It's about how to incorporate stages into the STORY of the next game with the stages I provided and others from the game. Learn to read.
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01/02/2014 08:23 PM (UTC)
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I'd like to see The Elder God's Chamber done better.
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RazorsEdge701
01/02/2014 08:28 PM (UTC)
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I really liked the MK9 version of the Elder Gods' Chamber, from the scene where Raiden talks to them while Liu stands around and does nothing except be conveniently unable to save his friends from Sindel.

The floor was basically the same as in MK4, and it still had lots of blue gods around, but it was their whole upper bodies instead of just faces in the wall, and instead of a roof, it was a Greek/Roman Forum-type place open to the sky, which was full of weird cosmic imagery like stars during the day, colorful nebulas, and planets that are way too close/big.
I'd like to see that as an actual arena in MK10
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Icebaby
01/02/2014 09:40 PM (UTC)
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As stated in my original post, I definitely want to see that Prison stage come back. It's literally one of my all-time favorite stages. The music was kick-ass to dance to, the fatality with the fan is just gruesome. And since it's based in the Netherrealm, HEY we can most likely see this!

I can definitely see it be used against the Earthrealm warriors, maybe the whole group gets captured or someone from the group gets captured and we can see a fight break out against... let's just say... some combatant.

The Elder Gods stage could also be coming back as long as it gets a clean up. As much as I do enjoy the concept of the stage, I think it could look a heck of a lot more intimidating if the faces all looked different, but it still holds the same kind of feeling to the level. The music was more relaxing, which makes sense because it doesn't look like an arena that a lot of action would take place in. I could see Raiden try to communicate with the Elder Gods and maybe see a fight between him and Fujin about something going on in here with the story? Maybe Fujin is disappointed in the way Raiden took care of this issue on Earthrealm and he wants to stop him before he does anything else that could jeopardize things?
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01/02/2014 10:34 PM (UTC)
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The only arenas from MK4 that I think really belong in MK10 are The Prison, The Well, Wind World, and The Temple of the Elder Gods.

I honestly think there are more arenas from Deadly Alliance and Deception that would take more prominence in MK10 than arenas from MK4.
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Icebaby
01/03/2014 05:21 AM (UTC)
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I did enjoy Reptile's Lair. But I really, really hope that Reptile doesn't serve Shinnok. I'm tired of this character being treated like a dog. Let's see a change with this character and have him have something big happen.

But, we're not here to discuss about characters ,we're discussing about arenas. If something happens to Reptile that makes him great, I wouldn't mind seeing this arena.

This is a stretch, but I'm going to throw it out there. Reptile wants his people back, and he served Kahn because he "promised" him that he could help bring back his people. Let's say, that's given to Quan Chi... And that he somewhat does resurrect some of his race and Reptile becomes the leader. Could we see this lair being his as a throne?

Because that giant eye in the middle of the arena is such an eye catcher... well, to me that is.
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Spider804
01/03/2014 05:23 AM (UTC)
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I'd love that to happen.
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RazorsEdge701
01/03/2014 06:41 AM (UTC)
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I've always felt that if Reptile's race were restored, he'd become just another bland Baraka-type goon leading an army of faceless, underdeveloped monsters just like him. Being the last of his kind is the only thing he has that makes him a unique and interesting character. (For that same reason, I've kinda never quite liked Khameleon because the race having 2 survivors instead of just one steals some of his thunder...but I think the MKA reveal that Reptile rejected her because he was too scared of Kahn to betray him basically saved her character by establishing that she's not just some plot device to go "Oh look, a potential momma for Reptile's babies, their race could be saved after all", there's actually a conflict between them.)

I think it'd be more interesting if MK10 was about Reptile and every other Outworld badguy NOT joining the end boss for once, and instead, since Outworld is under attack from Hell just like Earth is, the bad guys like Mileena, Baraka, and Reptile actually have to TEAM UP with Raiden and his team (who could sure use the help since all the strong ones got killed in 9).

Being forced to work together with their enemies and be on the good side for once even though it's not in their nature would do a lot to add depth and dimension to the personalities of those Outworld characters who are normally just overlooked minions.

As far as how that relates to stages goes...well, it does remind one that, since Shinnok did say at the end of MK9 that he's going to attack both Earth AND Outworld, then some of those Outworld locations that were in MK4 or MK9 like the Living Forest actually do have a good reason to come back in 10. And some stages like the Shaolin Temple...again, that's on Earth, Earth will be attacked, why not have it in the game? Especially if Kai is going to be brought in, since he was an MK4 character, and Raiden will need someone to replace the dead Liu Kang and Kung Lao.

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Spider804
01/03/2014 08:20 AM (UTC)
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That is a very great idea. Therefore, Dr. Vogel and his Retcon Masters will do the complete opposite and make them punching bags again.
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KungLaodoesntsuck
01/03/2014 10:40 PM (UTC)
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I'm curious how the Ice Pit will fit into MK10. I'm assuming the Ice Pit was part of the Lin Kuei's temple. If Sektor's MK9 ending is canon, then he is Grandmaster. The Lin Kuei was under Kahn's command but he's dead now. (Well dead for MK anyway) The upcoming battle between Earthrealm and the Netherrealm will probably take place on Earth.

I'm probably wrong about everything lol
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Icebaby
01/03/2014 11:18 PM (UTC)
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Well, I did have this story written out that WAS going to be a comic but it fell through on the "creating the comic" process and the Ice Pit could be used for this:

I was thinking that there'd be a few Lin Kuei survivors who haven't undergone the Automation Program, she'd be one of them. Let's say, the Ice Pit is used as a type of a "capture room," where the survivors be thrown in there. She'd escape from it by battling, let's say Cyrax (It'd be really strange for her to fight the leader of the cyborgs and just win, like how Sonya fought Raiden before freeing Jax and just won like that).

And maybe we could be introduced with an arena from the Lin Kuei itself.
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01/04/2014 05:41 AM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Well, I did have this story written out that WAS going to be a comic but it fell through on the "creating the comic" process and the Ice Pit could be used for this:

I was thinking that there'd be a few Lin Kuei survivors who haven't undergone the Automation Program, she'd be one of them. Let's say, the Ice Pit is used as a type of a "capture room," where the survivors be thrown in there. She'd escape from it by battling, let's say Cyrax (It'd be really strange for her to fight the leader of the cyborgs and just win, like how Sonya fought Raiden before freeing Jax and just won like that).

And maybe we could be introduced with an arena from the Lin Kuei itself.


She who? Frost? confused

Since (sadly) i've not played MK4/G i don't know much about the arenas here, but if Reptile IS in it then having his lair too wouldn't be totally out of place. I don't think he'd team up AGAINST Shinnok though, b/c in the original canon he sided w/ Shin, and they both play for Team Evil.
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RazorsEdge701
01/04/2014 06:34 AM (UTC)
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In the old version, Frost didn't even join the Lin Kuei until after MK4.

When Sub-Zero became grandmaster, he held a little tournament for people who want to join to prove themselves, and she won and became his first new recruit.

I know it's a different timeline and all...but, I mean, it only makes sense if stuff that's different is because of Raiden's visions, right? That's the whole reason everybody's mad about stuff like Mileena's new birthday.
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I don't think he'd team up AGAINST Shinnok though, b/c in the original canon he sided w/ Shin, and they both play for Team Evil.

There is no such thing as a unified "Team Evil", it's not like all the bad guys in Mortal Kombat are always on the same page.
In the original, he only ended up in Shinnok's army because Edenians had caught him and sent him to Hell.
If he's in Outworld working for whoever took the throne after Kahn died, and Shinnok comes to take over, everyone in Outworld is probably going to default to "defend our homeland from the invaders", no? It's not about "good vs. evil" in that instance.
'Course, Reptile's allegiance can be bought. Shinnok could just say "I'll bring the Raptors back" and the dude'll switch sides in a heartbeat. But at the end of Story Mode, Shinnok said "Neither Earthrealm nor Outworld can now withstand the Netherrealm's onslaught." Onslaughts aren't negotiations, they're wars. Shinnok is coming to fight. To take by force, not to make deals. That was rather my point, we've SEEN all the Outworld badguys be on the attacking side before. We've never seen how they would act if they were the ones being attacked. That's really the only thing I find potentially interesting about MK10. I want to see these characters do something new, be on the defensive for once, be forced to consider unconventional alliances and behave in more three-dimensional ways.
And besides, Raiden could make that offer too, like he offered to bring back Scorpion's clan in MK9.
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Icebaby
01/04/2014 05:16 PM (UTC)
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PickleMendip Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Well, I did have this story written out that WAS going to be a comic but it fell through on the "creating the comic" process and the Ice Pit could be used for this:

I was thinking that there'd be a few Lin Kuei survivors who haven't undergone the Automation Program, she'd be one of them. Let's say, the Ice Pit is used as a type of a "capture room," where the survivors be thrown in there. She'd escape from it by battling, let's say Cyrax (It'd be really strange for her to fight the leader of the cyborgs and just win, like how Sonya fought Raiden before freeing Jax and just won like that).

And maybe we could be introduced with an arena from the Lin Kuei itself.


She who? Frost? confused

Since (sadly) i've not played MK4/G i don't know much about the arenas here, but if Reptile IS in it then having his lair too wouldn't be totally out of place. I don't think he'd team up AGAINST Shinnok though, b/c in the original canon he sided w/ Shin, and they both play for Team Evil.


Yeah, it was about Frost. It was a story I had come up with that could make sense for her to return despite that it would be different than her character back in Deadly Alliance. But it's really whatever, it's just ideas being thrown around to see how these arenas could possibly come back.

And about Reptile, despite that I had recently said that I could see having his race actually come back with the help of Quan Chi, one idea thrown up, the other can easily be said as how you stated that his lair could still exist if he shows up. So either way, his lair could make an appearance with whatever way they're planning on doing with his character.
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DG1OA
01/13/2014 06:53 PM (UTC)
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How I'd fit these arenas in the story, if it's based on MK4. Long post ahead.

Goro's lair: If Liu Kang returns, then during the fight against Shinnok's forces, Goro could suddenly ambush Liu Kang, and open a portal back to his lair on Earth in order to fight him in Mortal Kombat. Goro wouldn't be Shinnok's lackey, he'd just want his title back.

The Elder Gods/Wind World; both could be easily used in a Raider/Fujin-centric chapter when Shinnok's forces are attacking the Elder Gods.

The Soul Chamber: The last game revealed it was located in Outworld, and seeing as Quan Chi also collects souls, he might consider this an important enough place to visit, or send his minions to.

Reptile's lair: Whatever role Reptile'd play in the story, he could be first encountered in his lair. Maybe Khameleon could get her own chapter, where she's looking for Reptile, and she thinks of checking out his lair.

Ice Pit: It could be located in Outworld, and the "Sub-Zero" in the next game could be a new individual of the same race as Frost and Sub-Zero that's taken refuge in the area. Said new character would get attacked by Shinnok's minions. They could also bring back Frost, but they'd probably have to change her story considerably in order to fit her in MK4's story.

The Living Forest: Just like in MK:SM, it could lead to Reptile's Lair, so Khameleon, in her search for Reptile, would have to explore it.

The Netherealm: Where you'd fight Shinnok at the end of the story mode.

The Tomb; Could be the area where Quan Chi would be fought (or just one of the areas), or Scorpion, in his very natural role as a nearly mindless lackey, or both.

The well: Tanya leading one of the heroes into a trap, and trying to throw said hero into the flames.

Shaolin Temple: a Kai chapter could begin there, where he arrives in the Shaolin temples, and fight either Raiden, Fujin or Liu Kang as a part of his training. Or it could be Liu Kang meditating, when either Raiden or Fujin appear, to try and tell him of the upcoming threat from Shinnok, and in anger, he snaps and attacks them. This could also be where Goro ambushes Liu Kang and takes him to his lair.

Alternately, while I don't like this idea much, Johnny's MKA ending could become partially canon, when after the invasion, he decided to become a monk. His chapter could begin in the Shaolin temples.

The Church: Jarek, on the run from Sonya and the special forces, goes back to his hideout, which happens to be the church. Alternately, Kai could be met there.

The Prison: One, or of the damned Earth warriors, could either be imprisoned there and try to escape, or it could be one of the living heroes who's either trapped there and has to fight her/his way out, or is trying to rescue the damned souls. Scorpion could discover the truth about Quan Chi's direct role in the death of his family and clan, but unlike his MK4 ending, Scorpion doesn't get to take Quan Chi with him when returned to hell, so he has to fight his way out of the prison. And two of his opponents could be Noob Saibot, and his deceased younger brother. During his encounter with Noob, Scorpion finally discovers that Noob Saibot was Bi-Han before he killed him.
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Icebaby
04/24/2014 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Bringing this thread back to see if anyone else has anything to contribute and see if there's new stuff to add. Any of these arenas you'd like to see in the story and have a reason to be there?
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KungLaodoesntsuck
04/24/2014 08:04 PM (UTC)
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I'd like to see the Wu Shi Academy make an appearance as a stage again. I can't think of a reason it HAS to be in, but it'd be nice to see it again.
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04/24/2014 08:09 PM (UTC)
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Hopefully Reptile's Lair makes a return in the next game, as that will constitute a greater story for Reptile.
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wdm6789
04/25/2014 01:53 AM (UTC)
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Wasn't MK4 about the Netherrealm invading Edenia? Why were there not more Netherrealm and Edenia stages? Is there even an Edenian stage in that game at all?

Hypothetically if they are going to re tell MK4, but wait Kitana and Sindel and Jade are all dead. Edenia isn't a free realm. So, what's the story going to be now?

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04/25/2014 12:07 PM (UTC)
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wdm6789 Wrote:

Wasn't MK4 about the Netherrealm invading Edenia? Why were there not more Netherrealm and Edenia stages? Is there even an Edenian stage in that game at all?

Hypothetically if they are going to re tell MK4, but wait Kitana and Sindel and Jade are all dead. Edenia isn't a free realm. So, what's the story going to be now?



This could envoke the return of Rain, since he believes he is a rightful prince of Edenia.

I do agree that there should be more Edenia stages. The only ones ever in existence were the Edenian Ruins and the Pyramid of Argus.
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DG1OA
04/25/2014 01:58 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Bringing this thread back to see if anyone else has anything to contribute and see if there's new stuff to add. Any of these arenas you'd like to see in the story and have a reason to be there?


Did you read my reply? What do you think of my ideas?
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