Can anyone close this shameful thread, please?
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posted01/12/2010 12:44 AM (UTC)by
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Icebaby
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05/27/2008 09:03 PM (UTC)
This issue has been bugging me ever since I've played MK3/UMK3... It's possibly a stupid issue, and quite frankly I don't care, but still, it's bothering me.

We all know that Cyrax is trapped in the desert in the arena called "Jade's Desert." For one, I don't quite understand how this is her desert when in Cyrax's ending clearly states:

He ends up stranded in the middle of a vast desert, blindly heading towards his base.

(The base is referring to the Lin Kuei Headquarters)

So, what is the relation between Jade and this desert... And if this desert truly belongs to Jade herself, then this desert has to be located in Edenia. Because why would she own a desert in Earthrealm? That doesn't really make sense... And what also doesn't make sense is, if this is Jade's desert and it is located in Edenia... then, why would Cyrax and the Lin Kuei Headquarters be in Edenia? Also... who the fuck wants to own a desert?

I really don't get that, and can you see this issue here?
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QueenSindel(TheBitch)
01/08/2010 05:02 AM (UTC)
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In Annihilation, the desert Jade appeared in had some mystical elements to it.

First, it's where Nightwolf emerges from, seemingly "out of nowhere."

And the background of the desert changes when Jade transforms into her costume as if what Liu Kang was originally seeing was an illusion.

So perhaps, this desert was intended to be somewhat mysterious and mystical.

I have no idea about its location, but it might be in Outworld. Jade was working for Kahn during this time so it was probably held there.

In the movie it was located on Earth, so that could be too.
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Chimera
01/08/2010 07:39 AM (UTC)
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i guess when Earthrealm and Outworld were fused in MK3, Kahn let Jade rule that desert. meaning that desert is both Earthrealm and Outworld. once Kahn gets defeated, Cyrax meets this on his way to the lin kuei from wherever he came from once the two worlds were split
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DrZoidberg
01/08/2010 10:26 PM (UTC)
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No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?
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01/09/2010 12:57 AM (UTC)
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QueenSindel(TheBitch) Wrote:
In Annihilation, the desert Jade appeared in had some mystical elements to it.

First, it's where Nightwolf emerges from, seemingly "out of nowhere."

And the background of the desert changes when Jade transforms into her costume as if what Liu Kang was originally seeing was an illusion.

So perhaps, this desert was intended to be somewhat mysterious and mystical.

I have no idea about its location, but it might be in Outworld. Jade was working for Kahn during this time so it was probably held there.

In the movie it was located on Earth, so that could be too.

sorry, but I'll consider MKSM canon long before Annihalation
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Icebaby
01/09/2010 01:58 AM (UTC)
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DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.
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Chimera
01/09/2010 02:50 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.


Yeah, besides Cyrax gets trapped in the dessert at the END of the story, not in the middle. anyway, was i helpful? i just figured
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TheGreatGarfield
01/09/2010 04:17 PM (UTC)
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I guess is when the earth realm and outworld fused Jade's Dessert and Lin Kuei headquaters were fused in the same location despite being in different realms. At that point were the two different realms merged. I guess.

"No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?"

yeah, that was always was a bit odd to me.
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01/10/2010 03:25 PM (UTC)
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It seemed to make sense when the UMK3 "upgrade" first came out in arcades - players were already familiar with Cyrax's ending in "regular" MK3 where he ends up getting trapped, and now we got a glimpse of it happening.

As time went on, it became apparent that while Cyrax didn't WIN the game or beat Shao Kahn, this is one portion of his ending that still happened - he still ended up getting stuck in the desert, until later rescued by Sonya and Jax. Therefore, it makes perfect sense that this could happen mid-tournament rather than post-tournament. (IF MK3 is even considered a tournament.)

The only qualm I have with any of this, is what DrZoidberg pointed out. The paradox of there being 2 Cyrax's if one has selected him as their fighter. This isn't really worse than, say, any time there's a Mirror Match; however, it is when the MK team first started getting "lazy" because there were never any previous such paradoxes in any of the MK games.
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DrZoidberg
01/10/2010 05:49 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.

No need to get an attitude.
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Icebaby
01/10/2010 07:03 PM (UTC)
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DrZoidberg Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.

No need to get an attitude.


You know, I don't get you... I don't really get why you think I have an attitude to lash back at you every time I talk to you or whatever. I don't, I really don't. The only thing I said was that your question was not the issue I'm trying to get solved here for. (If you actually read the entire first post it would make sense) I'm not sure how you thought that I was having an attitude.

So, would you kindly stop thinking I always have an attitude to lash out at you every time I respond to you... It's quite annoying.
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01/11/2010 01:02 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.

No need to get an attitude.


You know, I don't get you... I don't really get why you think I have an attitude to lash back at you every time I talk to you or whatever. I don't, I really don't. The only thing I said was that your question was not the issue I'm trying to get solved here for. (If you actually read the entire first post it would make sense) I'm not sure how you thought that I was having an attitude.

So, would you kindly stop thinking I always have an attitude to lash out at you every time I respond to you... It's quite annoying.


I'll tell you what's the point, Icebaby: I have noticed that you are, in fact, quite often brash and aggressive in discussions, then you turn all self-righteous when someone replies with your same tone. Like the time I was nearly lynched because you wanted to "warn" me about rules I had not broken and wasn't going to break, and I was called "aggressive" simply for answering that if I have to be lectured, that's the moderators' job. Think about all the times you flamed someone or a thread you were discussing was closed and you'll see my point. There is a reason if people have often something to say about your attitude.
Now, back to the topic, I don't think this issue is relevant, I don't think there is a canon answer, I don't think the creators put much thought in it.
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Icebaby
01/11/2010 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Warlady Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.

No need to get an attitude.


You know, I don't get you... I don't really get why you think I have an attitude to lash back at you every time I talk to you or whatever. I don't, I really don't. The only thing I said was that your question was not the issue I'm trying to get solved here for. (If you actually read the entire first post it would make sense) I'm not sure how you thought that I was having an attitude.

So, would you kindly stop thinking I always have an attitude to lash out at you every time I respond to you... It's quite annoying.


I'll tell you what's the point, Icebaby: I have noticed that you are, in fact, quite often brash and aggressive in discussions, then you turn all self-righteous when someone replies with your same tone. Like the time I was nearly lynched because you wanted to "warn" me about rules I had not broken and wasn't going to break, and I was called "aggressive" simply for answering that if I have to be lectured, that's the moderators' job. Think about all the times you flamed someone or a thread you were discussing was closed and you'll see my point. There is a reason if people have often something to say about your attitude.
Now, back to the topic, I don't think this issue is relevant, I don't think there is a canon answer, I don't think the creators put much thought in it.
Peace wink


Last time I checked, I wasn't talking to you nor do I want to... But, seeing how you have everything wrong about me in this way and TRASHING MY thread, I'll go out on a limb here and explain the type of person I am.

I disagree on people's opinions like a critic... I have the right to disagree with people's opinions because they SPECIFICALLY ask for our thoughts and opinions. Therefore, I give you my opinion. Unless they don't want people to ask us what we think, I will continue to say what I want, whether or not I'm agreeing with them or disagreeing with them.

And some people don't like the way I disagree, I tell the truth... except, as always, the truth hurts I guess and they do the insulting first... I don't be aggressive, I be descriptive when I explain why a certain idea wouldn't work, or it's just not that good. You cannot tell me I'm not allowed to post my opinions in a thread that's expecting feedback. Because then you're saying that all those who critique in the Fan Submission form should shut up because they go to the extreme...

That little thing that happened between us, YOU took what I wrote out of context, bit time... I didn't act like a fucking mod and warn you about rules, I asked you nicely to avoid posting a tier list in that thread you made because the one thread that was about Tier lists got so out of control with arguments, I was being nice enough to warn you ahead of time to not do so if you didn't want people arguing with you. What, am I not allowed to be nice to other users here and warn them about the crap that might come ahead if they try to re-start something that was nothing but a flame war in the past?

So, thank you for ruining this thread instead of actually posting this in an IM. I really have nothing further else to say to you other than you totally misjudge who I am and why I'm here... And if you think this is an attitude... then you're misjudging again, because I'm replying this message in a nice, calm attitude. I don't start wars, I end them.
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DrZoidberg
01/11/2010 11:02 PM (UTC)
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Icebaby Wrote:
Warlady Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.

No need to get an attitude.


You know, I don't get you... I don't really get why you think I have an attitude to lash back at you every time I talk to you or whatever. I don't, I really don't. The only thing I said was that your question was not the issue I'm trying to get solved here for. (If you actually read the entire first post it would make sense) I'm not sure how you thought that I was having an attitude.

So, would you kindly stop thinking I always have an attitude to lash out at you every time I respond to you... It's quite annoying.


I'll tell you what's the point, Icebaby: I have noticed that you are, in fact, quite often brash and aggressive in discussions, then you turn all self-righteous when someone replies with your same tone. Like the time I was nearly lynched because you wanted to "warn" me about rules I had not broken and wasn't going to break, and I was called "aggressive" simply for answering that if I have to be lectured, that's the moderators' job. Think about all the times you flamed someone or a thread you were discussing was closed and you'll see my point. There is a reason if people have often something to say about your attitude.
Now, back to the topic, I don't think this issue is relevant, I don't think there is a canon answer, I don't think the creators put much thought in it.
Peace wink


Last time I checked, I wasn't talking to you nor do I want to... But, seeing how you have everything wrong about me in this way and TRASHING MY thread, I'll go out on a limb here and explain the type of person I am.

I disagree on people's opinions like a critic... I have the right to disagree with people's opinions because they SPECIFICALLY ask for our thoughts and opinions. Therefore, I give you my opinion. Unless they don't want people to ask us what we think, I will continue to say what I want, whether or not I'm agreeing with them or disagreeing with them.

And some people don't like the way I disagree, I tell the truth... except, as always, the truth hurts I guess and they do the insulting first... I don't be aggressive, I be descriptive when I explain why a certain idea wouldn't work, or it's just not that good. You cannot tell me I'm not allowed to post my opinions in a thread that's expecting feedback. Because then you're saying that all those who critique in the Fan Submission form should shut up because they go to the extreme...

That little thing that happened between us, YOU took what I wrote out of context, bit time... I didn't act like a fucking mod and warn you about rules, I asked you nicely to avoid posting a tier list in that thread you made because the one thread that was about Tier lists got so out of control with arguments, I was being nice enough to warn you ahead of time to not do so if you didn't want people arguing with you. What, am I not allowed to be nice to other users here and warn them about the crap that might come ahead if they try to re-start something that was nothing but a flame war in the past?

So, thank you for ruining this thread instead of actually posting this in an IM. I really have nothing further else to say to you other than you totally misjudge who I am and why I'm here... And if you think this is an attitude... then you're misjudging again, because I'm replying this message in a nice, calm attitude. I don't start wars, I end them.

Nice calm attitude? Did you even read your post? Fact is you're not a moderator and people hate it when you lash out at them with little provocation. You asked for input in the original post and if you don't like what people say in your threads simply don't make any. What's the point if you're just going to argue that you're right and we're wrong. There is no need to prove dominance on the Internet.
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Icebaby
01/11/2010 11:31 PM (UTC)
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DrZoidberg Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
Warlady Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
Icebaby Wrote:
DrZoidberg Wrote:
No one's questioning how Cryax is stuck in the desert and he's playable?


Because it's obviously not the issue I'm trying to get an answer for.

No need to get an attitude.


You know, I don't get you... I don't really get why you think I have an attitude to lash back at you every time I talk to you or whatever. I don't, I really don't. The only thing I said was that your question was not the issue I'm trying to get solved here for. (If you actually read the entire first post it would make sense) I'm not sure how you thought that I was having an attitude.

So, would you kindly stop thinking I always have an attitude to lash out at you every time I respond to you... It's quite annoying.


I'll tell you what's the point, Icebaby: I have noticed that you are, in fact, quite often brash and aggressive in discussions, then you turn all self-righteous when someone replies with your same tone. Like the time I was nearly lynched because you wanted to "warn" me about rules I had not broken and wasn't going to break, and I was called "aggressive" simply for answering that if I have to be lectured, that's the moderators' job. Think about all the times you flamed someone or a thread you were discussing was closed and you'll see my point. There is a reason if people have often something to say about your attitude.
Now, back to the topic, I don't think this issue is relevant, I don't think there is a canon answer, I don't think the creators put much thought in it.
Peace wink


Last time I checked, I wasn't talking to you nor do I want to... But, seeing how you have everything wrong about me in this way and TRASHING MY thread, I'll go out on a limb here and explain the type of person I am.

I disagree on people's opinions like a critic... I have the right to disagree with people's opinions because they SPECIFICALLY ask for our thoughts and opinions. Therefore, I give you my opinion. Unless they don't want people to ask us what we think, I will continue to say what I want, whether or not I'm agreeing with them or disagreeing with them.

And some people don't like the way I disagree, I tell the truth... except, as always, the truth hurts I guess and they do the insulting first... I don't be aggressive, I be descriptive when I explain why a certain idea wouldn't work, or it's just not that good. You cannot tell me I'm not allowed to post my opinions in a thread that's expecting feedback. Because then you're saying that all those who critique in the Fan Submission form should shut up because they go to the extreme...

That little thing that happened between us, YOU took what I wrote out of context, bit time... I didn't act like a fucking mod and warn you about rules, I asked you nicely to avoid posting a tier list in that thread you made because the one thread that was about Tier lists got so out of control with arguments, I was being nice enough to warn you ahead of time to not do so if you didn't want people arguing with you. What, am I not allowed to be nice to other users here and warn them about the crap that might come ahead if they try to re-start something that was nothing but a flame war in the past?

So, thank you for ruining this thread instead of actually posting this in an IM. I really have nothing further else to say to you other than you totally misjudge who I am and why I'm here... And if you think this is an attitude... then you're misjudging again, because I'm replying this message in a nice, calm attitude. I don't start wars, I end them.

Nice calm attitude? Did you even read your post? Fact is you're not a moderator and people hate it when you lash out at them with little provocation. You asked for input in the original post and if you don't like what people say in your threads simply don't make any. What's the point if you're just going to argue that you're right and we're wrong. There is no need to prove dominance on the Internet.


I act like a mod? My god this is a joke... I was skulled a long time ago for acting like a mod, I was told by previous moderators to knock that off and I have... Unfortunately, there's one user here who continuously do that and it is clearly you Zoidberg.

You bash at people who bumped threads, you throw out the sites rules more than Vash and Jin does towards new users and such... and you dare have the audacity to point that finger out towards me about being a mod when it is clearly you that do more authorizing around this site than a moderator? I laugh at the fact that you dare point that finger at me when it should be pointed straight back at you. I've stopped after I was warned, I think you should too.

Secondly, I do not believe every person is wrong and I am always right. That's one of my top three big pet peeves... You people seriously don't understand how to take criticism, and because you all don't that's when we have to start up with the shitty insults

...And here's the thing I quite don't get, I don't understand how either of you, Zoidberg and Warlady, hates that I disagree with everyone's opinions when they're asking for my thoughts... Despite the fact that freedom of speech occurs rationally on this site, I do, at least, have the authority to speak my mind out on people's ideas when they ask me for them... I have the right to discuss about why I either like or don't like (And come on, there's been a lot of people who's been making some bad ideas to occur in the game and it's not just me who disagrees as well)

I may not understand why either of you dislikes me and quite frankly it's getting annoying... You're saying I lash out at you, come on, what are you doing to me right now? Hypocrisy at its best, I'll say. Seriously, there's something called, "If you don't like what one user is saying, IGNORE THEM..." But obviously, you can't ignore me since I disagree with everyone, I'm always right, I'm the princess of this site and every single user is my slave... Yeah, get that picture out of your heads because boy have you all got me wrong... I'm embarrassed over the fact that the two of you had to come into this thread to make me feel like a user who always hates opinions when honestly that's not the truth. I personally enjoy seeing people list their ideas, and yeah, I'm going to get insulted with that saying, but if they ask for my thoughts, I have EVERY good right to speak my mind. Whether they want to see my thoughts or not. Until they don't ask for thoughts or opinions, I'll continue what I do. You're both not in charge of me, so you can't shut me up. And dominance? God, both of you need to stop your whining and worry about something that's way more important than a user who's been here longer than the two of you.

And the fact that this is no longer a discussion about my topic can someone close this shameful thread?
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01/12/2010 12:44 AM (UTC)
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