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posted03/27/2012 06:04 PM (UTC)by

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For the sake of argument, I think we should mostly mention characters that appeared in MK9's story mode. The past games, with some exceptions such as MKM: Sub-Zero, and Scorpion's win over Bi Han in MK1, didn't reveal that much when it comes to the characters' skills. What I mean is, we didn't know exactly how competent Stryker and Kabal were as fighters until MK9, for instance.

Enforcers such as Baraka and Reptile should be excluded. Even Mokap. Joke character or not, we've never seen him fight anyone, so we can't say for sure he's the worst fighter. Safe to say he's definitely not the best one, though, unless Raiden made yet another mistake during the invasion by not recruiting him.

Anyway, I believe Quan Chi could be in the running as far as worst fighters go. He is undeniably a brilliant schemer, but his fighting skills seem like the complete opposite. He lost to Liu Kang even with Scorpion's assistance. He later lost to Kung Lao, this time with Shang Tsung as his ally. Losing to Nightwolf on his own wouldn't have been a big deal if he hadn't suffered those two defeats prior to that fight.

On the other hand, Liu Kang is the MK champion, and Kung Lao comes close to him in skill. It's not like Quan Chi lost to a bunch of chumps. He did defeat Shang Tsung in the MKD intro, though I'm not sure the latter is that good a fighter himself.

So, who do you people think is/are the worst fighter(s)?

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•03/04/2012 06:03 PM (UTC) •

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I could agree with you on Quan Chi....maybe he relies a little too much on his magic so that when its time to throw down, hand to hand, he's not actually as good as people think.

I don't know why you want to exclude the enforcers, but I would rank the Outworld characters like this:

Sindel (powered up version)
Shang Tsung
Goro
Kintaro
Ermac
Kitana
Baraka
Jade
Sheeva
Mileena
Reptile

...just a vibe I get from who loses to who, rank in Kahn's org., etc. We never see Skarlet and Rain in action of course but I figure they're both in the middle at least. Skarlet must be fucking deadly if they keep her chained up like an attack dog...

•03/04/2012 06:29 PM (UTC) •

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I'm excluding the enforcers (and Mokap) because I could see lot of people mentioning them and leaving it at that. Basically, I want to encourage people to think a little harder when nominating anyone as the worst fighter(s). Many of the enforcers would be rather obvious in that case.

Although, I'd make an exception with Motaro, as unfortunate as it is. Sheeva killed him in the old timeline. It was impressive, or rather should have been impressive, but given how they've portrayed Sheeva, if they even remember they've had her kill Motaro, then it would seem that he is sadly even more incompetent than her and the other enforcers. His pathetic death at Raiden's hands could be seen as a confirmation of that. He didn't even at least get a memorable fight scene with the thunder god before going down.

Cyrax is another I'd like to mention. He might have had his own chapter, but he and Sektor simultaneously lost to Scorpion, and the people Cyrax beat were Baraka, Sheeva, Johnny Cage and Sektor. If we go by MK9's story mode's portrayal of the characters, Johnny was essentially the most impressive foe he defeated. And given just how effective Johnny was as a fighter after his chapter, that's sadly not saying much.

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•03/04/2012 06:39 PM (UTC) •

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What about MKA's intro? Quan chi vs Jax was very funny, Quan chi stood no chance hehe, especially those sword weilding skeletons, just got knocked out haha, only for jax and several others to be sent flying by Shao Kahn and his hammer (remember him using that several times in a row in MK3 which was annoying).
Haha but i was abit annoyed by sindel beating everyone in mk9 without using her flight or powers!
As much as i love Rain, i must say, Ermac is wiked but hes held back alot, im sure he could of whipped sindel with sacrificing himself

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•03/04/2012 11:19 PM (UTC) •

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Tekken 6 is canon to the Mortal Kombat games. So...panda/kuma.
Jk ....
I would say reptile, but in mk9 he seems his own person, but he lost to many fighters.

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•03/05/2012 01:04 AM (UTC) •

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DG1OA Wrote:Although, I'd make an exception with Motaro, as unfortunate as it is. Sheeva killed him in the old timeline. It was impressive, or rather should have been impressive, but given how they've portrayed Sheeva, if they even remember they've had her kill Motaro, then it would seem that he is sadly even more incompetent than her and the other enforcers. His pathetic death at Raiden's hands could be seen as a confirmation of that. He didn't even at least get a memorable fight scene with the thunder god before going down.

Well, Motaro is a fucking horse, and Raiden knocked him through the bridge into the river below. He probably broke his legs in the fall and drowned. I bet he wasn't the world's greatest swimmer to begin with. I don't think it makes him look that bad because I don't think any of the bad guys should be able to take Raiden, besides Shao Kahn. Remember the old urban legend that Kintaro went up against Raiden in MK2 and got vaporised? I'd say Mo got off easy.

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•03/06/2012 03:00 PM (UTC) •

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Overall I would say Reptile (has he won a fight from MK1-9?) but since your excluding him hmmm.

I don't think Rain would be all that powerfull, I don't know why I'm naming him but he squirts water at people. I like Rain though.

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•03/06/2012 05:11 PM (UTC) •

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Rain should actually be a super-badass in theory. He's half-god for one thing.
And with his powers, he's not just a human water hose, don't forget he can make lightning too - he controls weather, or at least can use his water control so creatively as to make storm clouds. Maybe he could make snow and hail too if not for the fact the devs wouldn't do that 'cause it'd horn in on Sub-Zero's turf.
And let's not forget the human body is 50-75% water...I'm sure they could come up with some pretty gruesome fatalities where he uses people's only bodily fluids against them...but again, using their blood could horn in on Skarlet, and sucking them dry might be aping the visual effect of Shang's soul steal (though they could turn to dust and crumble like a mummy instead of going all withered and green...).

•03/07/2012 08:35 AM (UTC) •

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I'd say Kano I mean he's nothing more then a thug who uses weapons to fight and can't beat a women right lolz jk. But yea I say Kano also I thought Shang sung background story claims he was a former earthrealm warrior train by Bo RI Cho and he betrayed his realm because he was scared of aging and dying if that is true he should be a decent fighter since he was trianed by Bo RI Cho and all

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•03/07/2012 10:00 AM (UTC) •

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collegegeek Wrote:
also I thought Shang sung background story claims he was a former earthrealm warrior train by Bo RI Cho and he betrayed his realm because he was scared of aging and dying if that is true he should be a decent fighter since he was trianed by Bo RI Cho and all

Don't forget that on top of that, when he steals souls he gains the skills and memories of the victim, so he has the martial arts abilities of like a thousand past MK tournament fighters.

•03/07/2012 11:25 AM (UTC) •

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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:

collegegeek Wrote:
also I thought Shang sung background story claims he was a former earthrealm warrior train by Bo RI Cho and he betrayed his realm because he was scared of aging and dying if that is true he should be a decent fighter since he was trianed by Bo RI Cho and all

Don't forget that on top of that, when he steals souls he gains the skills and memories of the victim, so he has the martial arts abilities of like a thousand past MK tournament fighters.

Wait,was Shang trained by Bo Rai Cho?

•03/07/2012 04:24 PM (UTC) •

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As bad as it may sound, because she's one of my favorite female characters in this game... Sheeva.

As stated in my thread about her in the 2011 forum, her story is just shit. She's supposed to be a protector for the queen, Sindel.

What do we get for this game? A handful of matches of us against her and proving that she's no match against someone who's twice as small as she is. That was ridiculous to have her be a guardian of prisoners throughout this story, and to have her fall as a loser against us made me realize that she's not so great as her story is meant to be.

She's a Shokan, along with Goro and Kintaro, unfortunately, she's not as great as either of them are... Why is this? And I'm not going to throw in the excuse, "The people down there are men and they hate when women rise..." That's fucking stupid...

But why is she basically the only Shokan that get's nothing but crap thrown at her and make her seem worthless while the other two aren't doing so great themselves either?

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•03/07/2012 05:03 PM (UTC) •

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Noobsmoke92 Wrote:
Wait,was Shang trained by Bo Rai Cho?

Possibly. Shang was training to fight on Earth's side in Mortal Kombat before he defected to Outworld because Kahn offered to teach him soul stealing. We don't know how long Bo's been training Earthrealmers, but possibly it's been for as long as Earth/Outworld tournament has existed, so he could very well have trained Shang.

As a sidebar, on the TV show Conquest, Shang's teacher was named "Master Cho"...though it wasn't at all the same character as Bo' Rai Cho. Probably just a coincidence.

•03/07/2012 11:03 PM (UTC) •

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Sadly Mileena (In the new timeline)

She looks nothing like Kitana She didn't grow up with her which means no sisterly rivalry. Her story just got totally distroyed in the new timeline shes just a slut , a pair a breasts in the background!

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•03/10/2012 06:44 PM (UTC) •

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in the previous stoyline i'd have to say Kobra: his MKD bio was frankly boring and Kira's ending proved that she was much tougher than he.

In the new timeline i'd have to say the suckers that got owned by Sindel - why didn't Smoke teleport away? why didn't Jax and Stryker shoot the bitch!? why didn't (Cyber) Sub-Zero freeze her? As impressively visceral the fight looked, not a lot of that sequence really made sence.

Shang was seriously underpowered too, even though storywise he HAD to lose. And i agree abut the comments about Sheeva - she was much more formidable in the original canon.

•03/10/2012 07:09 PM (UTC) •

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I honestly think it would be Shinnok. If he didn't have the amulet he would be fucked beyond belief lol.

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•03/11/2012 11:02 AM (UTC) •

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PickleMendip Wrote:
in the previous stoyline i'd have to say Kobra: his MKD bio was frankly boring and Kira's ending proved that she was much tougher than he.

In the new timeline i'd have to say the suckers that got owned by Sindel - why didn't Smoke teleport away? why didn't Jax and Stryker shoot the bitch!? why didn't (Cyber) Sub-Zero freeze her? As impressively visceral the fight looked, not a lot of that sequence really made sence.

Shang was seriously underpowered too, even though storywise he HAD to lose. And i agree abut the comments about Sheeva - she was much more formidable in the original canon.

An explaination for why Shang would(might) be a bad fighter, despite all his skills:

All his skills are the problem. Too many tools in the kit.
In the split second heat of battle just thinking about who best to morph into to defeat your opponent, and what moves to use might trip him up a bit.

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•03/26/2012 06:51 AM (UTC) •

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I hate to say it, but my main man Sektor didn't fair well through the course of story mode, being an opponent 5 times throughout the story (more times than any other character), meaning that he was subsequently thrashed 5 times, once when he was even tag-teaming with Cyrax :( He did pummel Smoke a bit in the temple though hehe.

The only consolation for him is that he fought his way to the Grandmaster in his own ending, but even that is not confirmed to be canon...

I think in some ways though, trying to work out who is the most powerful via story mode fights isn't the most accurate measurement; Cyber Sub Zero was able to beat Kintaro and Goro together, while Kabal had no problem taking care of him one-on-one...

EDIT: Yes, I also agree, Sheeva's really been dawged in this game big time. Her ending makes me laugh though :P

•03/26/2012 11:29 PM (UTC) •

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hydraslash Wrote:
I think in some ways though, trying to work out who is the most powerful via story mode fights isn't the most accurate measurement; Cyber Sub Zero was able to beat Kintaro and Goro together, while Kabal had no problem taking care of him one-on-one...

You could say that a good reason why Cyber Subby lost to Kabal but defeated Goro and Kintaro, is because he wasn't in his right mind. His mind wasn't yet "restored" when he had to go one-on-one with Kabal.

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•03/27/2012 02:15 PM (UTC) •

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I still haven't learned to quote yet, but this is in response to the post just above me :P

Interesting thought... I know this is a bit of a tangent, but would this sorta mean then that by slaving their cybernetic units, are the Lin Kuei making their cyber units actually less effective than their human forms? With their free will and humanity restored, would that make both Cyrax and Cyber Sub actually more effective warriors?

•03/27/2012 06:04 PM (UTC) •

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hydraslash Wrote:
I think in some ways though, trying to work out who is the most powerful via story mode fights isn't the most accurate measurement; Cyber Sub Zero was able to beat Kintaro and Goro together, while Kabal had no problem taking care of him one-on-one...

You could say that a good reason why Cyber Subby lost to Kabal but defeated Goro and Kintaro, is because he wasn't in his right mind. His mind wasn't yet "restored" when he had to go one-on-one with Kabal.

While I agree with the idea that being a drone might have made Sub-Zero less effective as a warrior, I do not like your insinuation that Kabal should not be able to beat him. Why would Kuai Liang (Cyber Sub-Zero) be out of Kabal's league, exactly? Especially considering that Kabal beat Noob Saibot, a big deal if you keep MKM: Sub-Zero in mind. The latter even had help, yet he still lost.

If you weren't insinuating Kabal was too weak to defeat Cyber Sub-Zero, then never mind.

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