Nephrite EXPOSED! Solid_S14 vs JaNeZoKu (Nephrite) online matches!
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posted01/29/2012 11:27 PM (UTC)by
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Hey guys, wanna see your buddy Neph getting BLOWN UP? lol


These are recorded online matches played on January 28th at cca. 1.30am in the morning between Solid_S14 and me. My PSN ID is JaNeZoKu. Solid_S14 is an online friend of mine, he's from Holland and he attends local tournaments. He's a super cool guy and he's very skilled too, his Kabal is especially hard to fight against.

I wanna congratulate him, he pretty much destroyed me. I was a bit nervous as I knew it was being streamed and it was my 1st time playing on a stream. Even so, he's still simply a better player and more skilled, I could never do those insane dash cancels he does with Kabal. After watching it, I guess I wasn't that bad overall, but there's definitely room for improvement.


In total there's cca. 1 hour of footage. It's Twitch.tv archive, but don't worry it loads up very fast because the video quality isn't high. I also posted "naked" links which you can copy-paste in case the hyperlinks don't work.

Here are the links and the match list with my comments, it's only him vs me as it was a private 1v1 match (he's on the left side, I'm on the right side):

=> First batch of matches (40mins of footage)
PART 1- http://www.twitch.tv/solid_s14/b/306755577 [start @ 1:59:00]
PART 2- http://www.twitch.tv/solid_s14/b/306758911

Hyperlink to pt. 1 [start @ 1:59:00]
Hyperlink to pt. 2

Kabal vs Kitana: Did couple of stupid jumps, didn't utilize connected cutters well & wasted the x-ray.
Kabal vs Kitana: Got blown up in the 1st round, failed to punish a blocked Nomad Dash in the 2nd round and did a stupid Square Wave Boost after I connected with 2, 1. Could (and should) have done better there.
Kabal vs Kitana: Messed up the f2, 1 combo in the 1st round (got f4 instead of neutral 4 so I got 32% instead of cca. 40%). Terrible 2nd round, tried to do enh. Square Wave Boost to get in, but it doesn't have armor when going up, so it didn't work.
Kabal vs Kitana: Tried to throw a couple of times in the 2nd round, didn't work, but won the round anyway. Got blown up in the 3rd round.
Kabal vs Kitana: Could have done better after f2, 1 hit him in the 1st round (instead of just d1 lol, but it was unexpected) and I got overwhelmed with his iAGBs, he machine gunned them and it was too hard to fight it.
Kabal vs Mileena: The tele-kick and f2 near the start of the round 1 were accidental because of me dashing/moving forwards, dropped some punish opportunities too, low pokes saved me. Overall, bad hit confirming from me and bad punishing, although he made lots of mistakes too.
Raiden vs Mileena: Close 1st round, easier 2nd round for him. Not sure how to fight against Raiden with Mileena.
Skarlet vs Sonya: I'm SO MAD at myself for messing up the 2, 1 string after those dive kicks connected, could have easily won this match 2-0 as he had no breaker near the end of the 2nd round when it happened. S.O.S. naked X-ray in the final round lol.
Shang Tsung vs Stryker: My first win YAY! It was a pokefest, I did some good anti-air uppercuts.
Noob Saibot vs Stryker: LOL I got blown up.
Cyrax vs Sektor: First 2 rounds were OK, I should have done a b2 ~ flamethrower at the end of round 2 to avoid putting myself in the corner. Round 3 - failed to punish blocked nets up-close, failed to anit-air with b3, 4 when I was in the corner near the end and my stupid teleport attempt finished me off.
Cyrax vs Sektor: 1st round - went for a TU, got d4 and ended up caught in the net, round 1 bye bye. Overall, it wasn't that bad I guess.
Johnny Cage vs Jade: First two rounds completed, the 3 rd round is missing, but you can see in the link below that I won this match 2-1 YAY!

=> Continuation, second batch of matches (13mins of footage)
Link: http://www.twitch.tv/solid_s14/b/306760058

Hyperlink for the 2nd batch

Reptile vs Jade: Reptile, my nemesis lol. I'm too obsessed with staff overhead lol.
Quan Chi vs Sub-Zero: Round 2 - dat rune trap lol! LOL at my jump kicks in the 3rd round- panick, panick!
Kung Lao vs Sub-Zero: I got bodied.
Ermac vs Sonya: Again failed to convert a connected dive kick, tsk tsk tsk. Got blown up by Ermac's 3, 1, 2 string.
Jax vs Sindel: Knew he was gonna do the Dash Punch at the start, hehe. :p

=> Continuation, third batch of mathes (7mins of footage)
Link: http://www.twitch.tv/solid_s14/b/306760689

Hyperlink for the 3rd batch

Jax vs Sindel: Continuation of the match that started in the prevous link.
Scorpion vs Sindel: Salty fatality. :p
Kabal vs Kitana: I was so mad when that fan lift in the f2, 1 combo failed to connect in round 2 because of that weird corner gravity. I'm still salty over that.


The most annoying thing when fighting Kabal as Kitana for me is the pushback on a blocked Ground Saw. OK, Kabal is machine gunning iAGBs so I won't jump, I'll try to dash in, but then I block the Ground Saw and it pushes me back. It's like 2 steps forwards, 1 step back. Also, Kitana's enhanced Square Wave Boost doesn't have armor on the way up, so it's a real pain trying to get in on him. I actually managed to beat his Kabal with Kitana the day before in a KotH room, it was a very close 2-1 win, but yeah... 1/20 lol...

Hope you guys enjoy and feel free to comment, criticize and share any tips. Kitana is my main, she's the only one I know a bit more in depth, but as a casual player I like playing with other characters too.



Not one win with Kitana...



Not one win...
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01/28/2012 06:26 PM (UTC)
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Thanks for sharing these Neph. I only watched the Kitana vs Kabal match so far, and shit would I be annoyed indeed. I never liked the whole "zoning" BS and every time I get zoned online I start to lose my cool. I don't know, it just bugs me. If I was in your shoes, that would definitely bug me.

Plus I'm garbage when it comes to fighting a Kabal online because they're so damn unpredictable. Damn dash cancels...
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01/28/2012 09:54 PM (UTC)
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When it comes to Kabal, for me, it's the combination of the instant air gas blasts which come out at an insane rate and also hit standing opponents together with the ground saw which I think has only 7 frames of start-up (that's very fast) and pushes you back on block. OMG, do I hate that pushback on block...

I don't know, but if there is another hotfix coming up, I can't lie, I hope they somehow nerf Kabal's projectiles. Hope they either decrease the rate at which he can shoot iAGBs or take away ground saw's pushback on block (at least for the normal ground saw, for the enhanced one he can keep it).

I don't know. We met again today in a KotH room, played another Kabal vs Kitana match, he beat me again in two close rounds. So frustrating.


Crazy Dominican managed to beat REO's Kabal with Kitana at the last VSM showing. I should go back, re-watch that and take notes.
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Espio872
01/28/2012 10:01 PM (UTC)
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I watched the first sets of matches.

Nice Kitana, Kabal is such a pain in any scenario, it's very frustrating that Kabal literally has everything. What was with his trolling after he won that one match? It's not even that Kabal has everything, it's the fact that everything is top notch, he has a high and low projectile, one of which he can machine gun blast to death and his mix ups and pressure is absurd.

I'm surprised you don't use Sektor more, that was an entertaining show you put on with him, against Cyrax no less.

Oh and I love that you used Stryker twice, lovely victory on the one against Shang, that Noob fight is so hard for Stryker though. I'm loving the gun cancels and as a suggestion on punishing teleports like Noob Saibot's where they're left spinning in the air 1,2 gun shot, roundhouse for 22% or once you get that down, 1,2, gun shot, 1,2, roll for 30% punish.

What was the outcome of the Jade v.s. Johnny Cage fight? It ended before
its conclusion, that Jade was on point, very much impressed that you had Johnny Cage on the ropes for most of the fight.


You're way better than decent, really good actually. My favorites from you were your Kitana and Sektor, so much win!

Great show indeed.

I'll review the rest later, can't waitsmile
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Nephrite
01/28/2012 10:21 PM (UTC)
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Espy, thanks for checking it out! Btw, I checked out your Jan 22nd matches and posted a reply (just letting you know in case you missed it).

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Espio872 Wrote:
What was with his trolling after he won that one match?


It was just him trolling, but I didn't take it in an offensive way. We're buddies online, he's super cool & funny and he even gives advice and stuff like that. He's really cool. Maybe he did it because I trolled him the night before in a KotH room where I kept throwing tomatoes at the screen whenever he would win lol. It's all in good spirit.

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Espio872 Wrote:
I'm surprised you don't use Sektor more, that was an entertaining show you put on with him, against Cyrax no less.


He's my 2nd most used character actually (as you can see in my sig hehe). I love playing as him, although I tend to mess up instant air tele-uppercuts. Truth is though, because I've been practicing with Sonya, Stryker and Jade lately I haven't been using Sektor that much these past few weeks.


Espio872 Wrote:
Oh and I love that you used Stryker twice, lovely victory on the one against Shang, that Noob fight is so hard for Stryker though. I'm loving the gun cancels and as a suggestion on punishing teleports like Noob Saibot's where they're left spinning in the air 1,2 gun shot, roundhouse for 22% or once you get that down, 1,2, gun shot, 1,2, roll for 30% punish.


Thanks for the tips. Yeah, I was kinda brain dead lol so I just did an uppercut to punish. I usually go for b3, 2 when punishing those kind of blocked moves. I could try your ways too, I think those might be especially useful against Kano as he recovers faster after a blocked up-ball and Stryker's b3, 2 is too slow. Once again, thanks!


Espio872 Wrote:
What was the outcome of the Jade v.s. Johnny Cage fight? It ended before
its conclusion, that Jade was on point, very much impressed that you had Johnny Cage on the ropes for most of the fight.


Thanks! I won that match 2-1, the very end can be seen at the start of the footage for the next batch of matches.


Espio872 Wrote:
You're way better than decent, really good actually. My favorites from you were your Kitana and Sektor, so much win!


Thanks buddy! Your feedback is much appreciated! I was trying to hit that Stryker reset that you inspired me to start doing and I was on the way to do it in one match but he got the breaker and stopped me mid-combo at the NJP point. Bummer lol.

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01/28/2012 11:29 PM (UTC)
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Nephrite Wrote:
When it comes to Kabal, for me, it's the combination of the instant air gas blasts which come out at an insane rate and also hit standing opponents together with the ground saw which I think has only 7 frames of start-up (that's very fast) and pushes you back on block. OMG, do I hate that pushback on block...

I don't know, but if there is another hotfix coming up, I can't lie, I hope they somehow nerf Kabal's projectiles. Hope they either decrease the rate at which he can shoot iAGBs or take away ground saw's pushback on block (at least for the normal ground saw, for the enhanced one he can keep it).

I don't know. We met again today in a KotH room, played another Kabal vs Kitana match, he beat me again in two close rounds. So frustrating.


Crazy Dominican managed to beat REO's Kabal with Kitana at the last VSM showing. I should go back, re-watch that and take notes.


Yeah, a new patch or hotfix is indeed rumored. I really hope Kabal doesn't get nerfed, like IE Kung Lao, if he does I will be severely pissed. They most likely won't take account in Smoke's resets, Cyrax resets, and the beloved Jax resets. No, they'll focus on the one character that is getting the most attention. KABAL. Oh, and that the fact that every character is probably going to get or have armor, as 70% of the cast already does. NERFS/BUFFS, all day right? Nerf the high tier characters, buff the low tier characters, and all is well. The game is balanced. Well, I say fuck that leave the game how it is lol. New tech will be discovered if there actually does happen to be a hotfix. I'm just saying I've spent so much time learning shit on the patch we have right now, I think v1.05 or something like that. Not to take into account that if there is, Kitana has a chance of being "Nerfed" as she is in most likely top 5 imo.

Oh well. Your Kitana is really good btw, I can see you take in account 16-bit's zoning and shit man, same with CD's. You did well against Kabal. Really nice matches to watch. Just a tip is to try to outsmart Kabal's zoning, look for a pattern. That's usually what my opponent does, and watch out for the EX dash. Don't forget to use wakeup EX cutter, that wakeup is so fucking good. Get's me almost every time, and even though Kitana's zoning isn't the best they can shut out my or anyone's Kabal.
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01/29/2012 11:27 PM (UTC)
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redman Wrote:Oh well. Your Kitana is really good btw, I can see you take in account 16-bit's zoning and shit man, same with CD's. You did well against Kabal. Really nice matches to watch. Just a tip is to try to outsmart Kabal's zoning, look for a pattern. That's usually what my opponent does, and watch out for the EX dash. Don't forget to use wakeup EX cutter, that wakeup is so fucking good. Get's me almost every time, and even though Kitana's zoning isn't the best they can shut out my or anyone's Kabal.


First, thanks!


I don't use wake-up ex-cutter that much as it can be stuffed by a simple low poke so it ends up as a meter waste. I rarely use that move and it's mostly while pressuring to either chip the opponent or surprise them if they were expecting normal cutter.

As for the nerfs/buffs, I have my opinions on various characters, but I won't go into that now. We can make another thread and post our thoughts/speculations there on a possible future hotfix. I just expressed my desires in that previous post of mine because I was still salty. But oh well, that's another subject.

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