CHARACTER CHAT - This Week - Drahmin (And Oni)
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posted07/19/2003 02:19 PM (UTC)by
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New character Drahmin seems to be hated by a few people for lack of dial up combos, which I guess should make for an interesting chat tongue.

Anyhow, what do you think of Drahmin in general, do you think he has story potential to return in MK6, or appear in the next movie?

His story with Quan Chi, Shang Tsung, and the way his ending leaves us (IF it happened, because it would mean that possibly Quan, and Moloch are still alive as well), seems like it is fit enough for a continuation, but what are your thoughts on it, and would you like to see how it pans out?

All things chatty grin :
- MKDA appearence
- His race, the "Oni"
- Return for MK6?
- Movie appearences?
- His story and playability in DA, and should it be changed should he return in future mk games.
- What you wanted him to be, and what you would like him to be.

Starter question:
- Assuming Drahmin's ending happened, what do you think happened to him in Quan Chi's inner sanctum.
And also:
- Do you think the oni will play a part in future MK games, and how big a part do you think they played in MKDA.

I think it would be interesting if he were now human, but then he might lose the fighting style he had, I mean, how many humans do you know, would fight the way Drahmin does?

Anyhow, let's CHAT! grin.
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Sub-Zero_7th
07/15/2003 03:00 PM (UTC)
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Hmm well Drahmin is an interesting topic. I think that his appearance in MKDA was alright and I do want him to return in MK6. I think he has potential in terms of his storyline because of things such as his ending. There are certain things that could have happened. He could have merged with Quan Chi. It is more likely that Quan Chi absorbed Drahmin's powers, transforming Drahmin back to his human form from 500 years ago. His Netherealm and Oni fighting styles sort of remind me of an advanced brute strength sort of style. If he will be human in MK6, then perhaps his fighting styles should be different since he would no longer be an Oni.
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07/15/2003 03:36 PM (UTC)
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i believe he returned to his human appearence(the one shown in concept art, the guy with the beard)

i expect him to be failt pissed at quan chi and for him to side with the DK(2 major warlords working together..drahmin will be like the top general because of his war expierece)
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07/15/2003 03:39 PM (UTC)
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I'm still working on a private MK6 project, and in this project Drahmin returns, indeed in his form from 500 years ago. However he remains evil, since he is now required to absorb other lifeforms to sustain his appearance (a bit like Tsung).

Did anyone ever notice that Drahmin's got a knife slammed into his back? Perhaps he was murdered this way. He has storyline potential if altered a bit. Right now Drahmin is a bit of a loose cannon, both in terms of story and gameplay. Anything may happen. IF he returns I just hope he won't look the same. He was the only character whose looks I really thought were a little lame.

Gameplay-wise, I think it's good that he's different. Most intermediate, advanced and expert players will agree, I guess, that Drahmin is a very devastating character and an extremely well defensive player. Still both his ball of flies and his ground stomp can rip a part any decent defence. The combo possibilities after his clockwork punch, his super uppercut, his ground stomp and his many pop-up moves are great.

I usually start in his Netherealm style and try to find and chance to use his 3 to pop my opponents up in the air; OR if I want to be brutal I use 4. I switch to Iron Club for his powerup and then try to finish things off. I rarely use Oni.

His super uppercut is a bit worthless imo, he has better moves. But allround he's one of the top fighters out there, and a very welcome change.

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07/15/2003 04:46 PM (UTC)
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I think Dharmin will be back cause he looks cool and lots of ppl like him.
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07/15/2003 04:56 PM (UTC)
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Ya, drahmin is just toooo good, seriously. One of the few original characters in DA. Tech traps, everything launches, creative freedom, BD = O_o and his story isn't bad at all.

I can't say weather or not he'll return to human form. You loose the uniqeness of drahmins style design wise, or gain more ground for story. If baraka is never going to return, Kabal as well, we need at least one grotesqe character. Li Mei's face really doesn't count. tongue

Heh, maybe just give him a spaz feature. LOL, he could spaz in and out of human or oni, like a stance change. grin
That's the problem, if he does become like a human, then he probably won't be fighting in his old "ways" so to speak.

I guess another oni could take his place, and his styles (though that seems a little tekken like, passing styles on to new characters and all, *cough Julia cough*, lol), but then at least the fighting methods would be restored.

I very much doubt that him and Quan Chi have somehow formed together, or Drahmin absoribing Quan or vice versa, this is not Dragon Ball Z tongue, and I don't think I would like that idea, mainly because it's similar to the whole Liu Kang in Kano's body thing (which, thankfully isn't going to happen.

Teaming up with the DK seems like a probable situation, but who knows. If he is to return (at all), as a human, then anything could happen I guess, though it's probably evil related, him being a warlord (or used to be).
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07/16/2003 01:47 AM (UTC)
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mister_satan666 Wrote:
i believe he returned to his human appearence(the one shown in concept art, the guy with the beard)

i expect him to be failt pissed at quan chi and for him to side with the DK(2 major warlords working together..drahmin will be like the top general because of his war expierece)


Exactly!
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07/16/2003 01:58 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero_7th Wrote:
mister_satan666 Wrote:
i believe he returned to his human appearence(the one shown in concept art, the guy with the beard)

i expect him to be failt pissed at quan chi and for him to side with the DK(2 major warlords working together..drahmin will be like the top general because of his war expierece)

Exactly!


Huh? Where? When? How? I think i missed that one... well not missed but I didn't care of it which one is it?
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07/16/2003 02:15 AM (UTC)
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darksim Wrote:

Huh? Where? When? How? I think i missed that one... well not missed but I didn't care of it which one is it?


I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to ask. Can you be a bit more specific?
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07/16/2003 02:57 AM (UTC)
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Where is the cancept art of drahmin as a human.
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07/16/2003 03:53 AM (UTC)
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concept art of drahmin sorry.
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07/16/2003 04:40 AM (UTC)
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The claim that was being made was that Drahmin is in fact Dairou, I believe, the guy with a few koncepts in the krypt. I don't agree with this personally, because Dairou had a story of sorts, and it had nothing to do with Drahmin or being 500 years old. But, like the drawing says, Dairou ALMOST made it into MKDA, and since he didn't they could use Dairou's look for a human Drahmin. I don't think it would be that great if Drahmin had completely reverted back to his original form, he'll lose that originality you are all talking about. Perhaps if he was something.... less than a human, but more than an Oni.. just a thought I guess. And adding yet another oni would be pointless in my view, but I have a good feeling one will make an appearance in MK6.

As for Drahmin in MKDA, I liked him. I know alot complain about his lack of combos, but he's brutal when it comes to fighting. His style fits him well in my opinion. I don't think a Neatherealm demon would have fighting stances like mortals do, its much more savage, demon-like which is why I like his styles.

We should defiantly see more of him in MK6, he has a past history that could go any way as he's not specifically bound to be a certain way. As far as the movie goes though, he could be interesting if they were to portray MKDA, but they are trying to do MK4 and MKDA, some characters are bound to be left out of the movie. I've never really liked the way they take 2 games and turn it into one movie... things are bound to go wrong if you try that.

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The claim that was being made was that Drahmin is in fact Dairou, I believe, the guy with a few koncepts in the krypt.that.


Oh no, no, Dairou has his own little few sketches. Drahmin's human warlord look is on his sketch, where it shows him with the mask as well. I think.

So, looks like the favourite idea is that Drahmin will return to his human form (if to return of course).
So it's probable that his fighting style may change.
But what about his storyling.
I agree he will be pissed of at Quan Chi, or will he somehow "spare" him because he has been turned back to his human form, using Quan Chi's inner sanctum.
Well, I wouldn't believe that, but where would his storyling take him.
Allying with the Dragon King? While two warlords would be a good match, why would the DK ally with Drahmin?
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07/16/2003 09:07 AM (UTC)
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You mean all that rambling I did was for nothing! lol, whoops. Got confused, there are some rumors that Dairou is Drahmin.. but nevermind that now.

If he were to return, and as a human now, I'm not sure what his purpose could be. I can't see any reason for him to ally with TDK, he wouldn't be used to being given orders now thats he's his old warlord self again. Hmm... perhaps Drahmin could somehow emerge from that altercation with Quan Chi with his amulet. That would make Drahmin a huge focal point though, which is not neccesarily a bad thing. I'm sure TDK might want to get his hands, or whatever, on that amulet, and with it in Drahmin's possession, either a deal between them could be struck or they could vie against one another. It could even play back into my idea about Drahmin not being quite human, perhaps he could be power hungry and abuse the amulet's power, transforming him into an even more hideous monster than he was before.
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07/16/2003 02:23 PM (UTC)
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yeah, i think Drahmin will return for MK6 and it would be cool to see him with the amulet rather that Quan chi. not sure what his role would be but I don't think he'll just bendover for DK.

you know how drahmin needs his mask to control his oni powers? well, what if after he falls in to the inner sanctum the mask becomes obsolet. that is what I want to see, i don't want drahmin to become human again, I want to see a ruthless demon-warlord who can use the powers of an oni at will. that would be tight as Hell!

as for movies? he's not gonna be in MK3 that's for sure. if there ever comes a time when an 4th movie is in the works, he's gotta be first on the list.
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07/16/2003 10:20 PM (UTC)
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I need help with drahmin!!! the best thing I can do with him is something like:

Nether: 3, D*3, his ground punch, 3, 3, flying uppercut!!

Is there something better than that?? I'm really havin' serius difficulties in mastering the game with him and it's very hard for me to beat moloch with him!
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07/16/2003 10:49 PM (UTC)
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that's not to bad, it's safe and deals it. peep konqrr's Drahmin vid. just click on his sig - the url link.

BTW, if you don't know, you can b,d+4 after b,f+2.

Nether: 3, D*3, his ground punch, 3, 3, flying uppercut!!

you can't connect the d,b+1 after that second 3, if you can then it's not a garunteed combo.

Also, try corner traps with his b,d+4. For instance, with your back to the wall: f+sp, 3, b,d+4, d+3, f,f+2. You might be able to throw a low poke in before the f,f+2, but i forget. anywho, the d,b+4 will launch them over you so all three on the f,f+2 will connect. You can do hella' stuff with that, just play around with it. Peace and love ya'll.
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07/17/2003 12:26 AM (UTC)
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i think drahmin is kabal.i dont why i just think that
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07/17/2003 12:33 AM (UTC)
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Drahmin is my favorite new character period. No set dial combos. I loved having to figure him out by myself.
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07/17/2003 03:36 AM (UTC)
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Satyagraha Wrote:
that's not to bad, it's safe and deals it. peep konqrr's Drahmin vid. just click on his sig - the url link.

BTW, if you don't know, you can b,d+4 after b,f+2.

Nether: 3, D*3, his ground punch, 3, 3, flying uppercut!!

you can't connect the d,b+1 after that second 3, if you can then it's not a garunteed combo.

Also, try corner traps with his b,d+4. For instance, with your back to the wall: f+sp, 3, b,d+4, d+3, f,f+2. You might be able to throw a low poke in before the f,f+2, but i forget. anywho, the d,b+4 will launch them over you so all three on the f,f+2 will connect. You can do hella' stuff with that, just play around with it. Peace and love ya'll.


thanks for the help!! And no, it's not a "garunteed combo" because it were, then would happen what you said... It's just that after you do: 3, D+3, then do the ground punch (sorry that's the way I call it lol) while the opponent falls and rolls in the ground, so you'll get the ground punch to hit because he/she is rolling in the ground or just falling to the ground, it's the same logic that Bo's puke for the infinite, and it works against CPU at least, though I haven't tried it for harder difficulties.
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07/17/2003 03:40 AM (UTC)
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Drahmin is one of my top 5 favorite characters in MKDA. He fits in the MK world like a glove. His design, his moves, his demonic voices, and his story are perfect. He is a very unique character IMO.

I think his style is also very unique, since he does not have dial up combo's, I have discovered many pop-up combo's, I have maxed out Drahmin's combo's by 6 hits. You really have to be an experienced player to play Drahmin to understand why he is in the game.


As for MK6, I think it would be great if he was still an Oni Demon, because his ripped skin, mask, and iron club are so kool, I would just be happy with a revamped design of his demon form. But since according to his ending he will most likely be a human, I hope he doesn't look like the way he does in that sketch because it looks too much like Shang Tsung in MKDA. If Drahmin does in fact return as a human, then I would like to see him look something like Nobunaga from the Onimusha games, Nobunaga looks like an excellent evil Japanese warlord.

Oh and one more thing, I also believe that Drahmin is Japanese, wether as an Oni demon or in his previous form, because Oni are Japanese demons. (As far as I know).
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07/17/2003 03:32 PM (UTC)
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ShaolinChuan Wrote:
Drahmin is one of my top 5 favorite characters in MKDA. He fits in the MK world like a glove. His design, his moves, his demonic voices, and his story are perfect. He is a very unique character IMO.

I think his style is also very unique, since he does not have dial up combo's, I have discovered many pop-up combo's, I have maxed out Drahmin's combo's by 6 hits. You really have to be an experienced player to play Drahmin to understand why he is in the game.


As for MK6, I think it would be great if he was still an Oni Demon, because his ripped skin, mask, and iron club are so kool, I would just be happy with a revamped design of his demon form. But since according to his ending he will most likely be a human, I hope he doesn't look like the way he does in that sketch because it looks too much like Shang Tsung in MKDA. If Drahmin does in fact return as a human, then I would like to see him look something like Nobunaga from the Onimusha games, Nobunaga looks like an excellent evil Japanese warlord.

Oh and one more thing, I also believe that Drahmin is Japanese, wether as an Oni demon or in his previous form, because Oni are Japanese demons. (As far as I know).


That's an interesting observation. You do have a good point because MK has its chinese and japanese influences, even starting from the first MK.
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07/19/2003 02:19 PM (UTC)
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I think he is one of the most original characters of Mk.

his moves and styles are great. Cool fatality, great storyline, etc.

I think he should come back with a half human look. Like the sketch, but with some Oni parts still on him.
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