Good and Bad Retcons
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Good and Bad Retcons
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posted02/20/2006 06:47 PM (UTC)by

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Over the course of the MK Storyline... there have been many retcons... (perhaps TOO many)... There have been some good... there have been some bad... which retcons did you think where good and which did you think were bad?
Good Retcons that served the story
Raiden becoming the mentor/leader of the good guys (I know some people have liked the crazy Raiden from MK1 better, but this was probably a good choice)
All of the retcons in MKT, such as Raiden sacrificing his immortality (when previously he had to sit MK3 out), Johnny Cage being killed by Kintaro (yeah I heard about this one on a website, the original reason behind his absense in MK3 was because Kintaro killed him in MK3), whatever retcons there were in Mythologies served the story.
Not really that big a deal
Raiden's hair becoming white instead of black.
Not good, but they can make something out of it
Goro not dying in MK:DA.
Shao Kahn's clone
Horrible retcons that hurt the character's storylines...
Scorpion never vowing to protect the younger Sub-Zero.
Johnny Cage never dying in MKT.
Jax finding Cyrax instead of Sektor (only because it gives Sektor no real purpose in MKG)
I'm sure I'm missing some, but I'll add more later on if I think of them.
Good Retcons that served the story
Raiden becoming the mentor/leader of the good guys (I know some people have liked the crazy Raiden from MK1 better, but this was probably a good choice)
All of the retcons in MKT, such as Raiden sacrificing his immortality (when previously he had to sit MK3 out), Johnny Cage being killed by Kintaro (yeah I heard about this one on a website, the original reason behind his absense in MK3 was because Kintaro killed him in MK3), whatever retcons there were in Mythologies served the story.
Not really that big a deal
Raiden's hair becoming white instead of black.
Not good, but they can make something out of it
Goro not dying in MK:DA.
Shao Kahn's clone
Horrible retcons that hurt the character's storylines...
Scorpion never vowing to protect the younger Sub-Zero.
Johnny Cage never dying in MKT.
Jax finding Cyrax instead of Sektor (only because it gives Sektor no real purpose in MKG)
I'm sure I'm missing some, but I'll add more later on if I think of them.


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I don't think Jax finding Sektor was ever a retcon.
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I don't think Jax finding Sektor was ever a retcon.
I don't think Jax finding Sektor was ever a retcon.
Um, PNF never said anything about Jax finding Sektor.
Anyway, I share PNF's disgust about Scorpion's retconned storyline.
I personally think Goro not dying in MKDA and the Shao Kahn's clone thing are among the absolute worst retcons. Goro had amazing character development in between MKG and MKDA. He actually turned out to be a wise leader,a dependable ally and a good friend,not just a four-armed freak. Nobody expected this from him,so it was good. His heroic death in MKDA became a major stepping stone for the development of other characters (mainly Kitana). Hell,the description for Kuatan Palace in Deception (!) states that he was given a burial worthy of a Shokan leader. Then MKD comes out on Gamecube and fucks everything up. =_= Come on,I can tolerate the idea of characters finding other characters in a near comatose state and "healing" (sic) them back to health for so long. I didn't mind Havik resuscitating Kabal, I didn't mind Sub-Zero tending to Kenshi's wounds after he got his ass handed back to him by Mavado, I didn't even mind Kano getting healed by freaking Shao Kahn of all people after falling off a goddamn skyscraper in MK3. But this is just getting redundant. To add insult to an injury,Goro turned out to be not a warrior hero as MKDA convinced us,but an opportunistic,power-hungry asshole. Just...What...The...Fuck...
And Kahn's comeback is the single lamest excuse for coming back to life in the recorded history of storytelling.
"jk dudes u jst killed my cl0ne,OLOLOLOLO!1!!"
That's just horrible. And here I was expecting something badass and unexpected with the entire Reiko-Kahn situation... And instead I get this shit. -_-
I'm not sure about that,but was Scorpion's vow ever really retconned? I mean,Scorp decided to protect the younger Sub because he realized that the Sub Jr. was different from his older brother. Thus,he didn't really have a reson to go after him. Plus,his guilt probably kicked in or something. However,by killing the older Sub,Scorpion avenged only his OWN death. His clan (?) along with his wife and kid were also slaughtered,and he was MUCH more pissed off about that than he was about his own death. So all it took for a schemer like good ol' Quan Chi to set Scorp back to "REVENGE HELL BURN KILL" mode is to pop out and dramatically "reveal" that the culprit was the younger Sub. There goes Scorpion's wov. Unfortunately,Quan Chi revealed his cards too early,and we all know how that turned out,getting dragged to the Netherealm and all.
Is there no actual retcon,or is there something I'm missing?
And Kahn's comeback is the single lamest excuse for coming back to life in the recorded history of storytelling.
"jk dudes u jst killed my cl0ne,OLOLOLOLO!1!!"
That's just horrible. And here I was expecting something badass and unexpected with the entire Reiko-Kahn situation... And instead I get this shit. -_-
I'm not sure about that,but was Scorpion's vow ever really retconned? I mean,Scorp decided to protect the younger Sub because he realized that the Sub Jr. was different from his older brother. Thus,he didn't really have a reson to go after him. Plus,his guilt probably kicked in or something. However,by killing the older Sub,Scorpion avenged only his OWN death. His clan (?) along with his wife and kid were also slaughtered,and he was MUCH more pissed off about that than he was about his own death. So all it took for a schemer like good ol' Quan Chi to set Scorp back to "REVENGE HELL BURN KILL" mode is to pop out and dramatically "reveal" that the culprit was the younger Sub. There goes Scorpion's wov. Unfortunately,Quan Chi revealed his cards too early,and we all know how that turned out,getting dragged to the Netherealm and all.
Is there no actual retcon,or is there something I'm missing?

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^Well... you can't say that the retcon was made... official... but evidence shows that the MK Team is no longer interested in making Scorpion the anti-hero that we love, but just a revenge-crazed lunatic....
What evidence,might I ask? Because I uh... don't really see it. His storyline seems pretty logical. It makes sense for him to become a revenge-crazed lunatic since in MK4 he basically finds out that Quan Chi is the one responsible for everything that happened to him,inculding him turning into a spectre and the consequent slaughter of the Shirai-Ryu. Naturally,he's hell-bent on killing the bastard by whatever means necessary (in MKDA,at least). In MKD,he's just sorta... there,at his new position as the delivery boy for the Elder Gods. No motivation for him.
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Although there is word that John Tobias did not count Scorpion's vow to protect the younger Sub-Zero as canon (despite Scorpion's UMK3/MKT ending and the MK2 comic book done by him), it doesn't really matter either way as MKDA is the main source for fucking up Scorpion's storyline. Let me explain.
Scorpion's primary MKDA bio and one of Sub-Zero's Konquest missions states that Scorpion has hunted Sub-Zero for many years, believing that Sub-Zero murdered his family and clan. Then when Quan Chi reveals that he's the true killer, Scorpion is after Quan Chi and will no longer harm Sub-Zero.
The problem with this is that it's referring to the younger Sub-Zero.
You see, MKM: Sub-Zero and Sub-Zero's Ice Shaker mission in MKDA's Konquest confirms that many years ago, Quan Chi framed the older Sub-Zero for the death of Scorpion's family and clan which led to the older Sub-Zero's demise at the hands of the ninja specter.
So if Scorpion did learn that the Sub-Zero in Shao Kahn's tournament was not the same Sub-Zero he murdered, why would he go after him?
The simple, clear answer is that Scorpion does not know that the current Sub-Zero is not the one he killed in Shang Tsung's tournament, therefore, he never made a vow to protect the younger Sub-Zero during Shao Kahn's tournament.
One thing I did notice is that in Sub-Zero's MKDA Konquest in one of the missions, it says something about Scorpion rethinking about his vow not to kill Sub-Zero. This is of course not something that actually happened in the storyline as this is just a mission in which you practice combos, but it's trying to say that Scorpion did make a vow in MK4 to not harm Sub-Zero. This is not really the same vow he made in his original storyline in the MK2 timeline.
So in conclusion, not only does changing all of this affect Scorpion's MK2 storyline but also his MK3 storyline and also takes away depth from his storyline and overall character.
Scorpion used to be one of my top characters, but I don't like him as much as I used to. It's a shame that such carelessness went into developing his story that it's done in a way that fucks things up badly. *sighs*
Scorpion's primary MKDA bio and one of Sub-Zero's Konquest missions states that Scorpion has hunted Sub-Zero for many years, believing that Sub-Zero murdered his family and clan. Then when Quan Chi reveals that he's the true killer, Scorpion is after Quan Chi and will no longer harm Sub-Zero.
The problem with this is that it's referring to the younger Sub-Zero.
You see, MKM: Sub-Zero and Sub-Zero's Ice Shaker mission in MKDA's Konquest confirms that many years ago, Quan Chi framed the older Sub-Zero for the death of Scorpion's family and clan which led to the older Sub-Zero's demise at the hands of the ninja specter.
So if Scorpion did learn that the Sub-Zero in Shao Kahn's tournament was not the same Sub-Zero he murdered, why would he go after him?
The simple, clear answer is that Scorpion does not know that the current Sub-Zero is not the one he killed in Shang Tsung's tournament, therefore, he never made a vow to protect the younger Sub-Zero during Shao Kahn's tournament.
One thing I did notice is that in Sub-Zero's MKDA Konquest in one of the missions, it says something about Scorpion rethinking about his vow not to kill Sub-Zero. This is of course not something that actually happened in the storyline as this is just a mission in which you practice combos, but it's trying to say that Scorpion did make a vow in MK4 to not harm Sub-Zero. This is not really the same vow he made in his original storyline in the MK2 timeline.
So in conclusion, not only does changing all of this affect Scorpion's MK2 storyline but also his MK3 storyline and also takes away depth from his storyline and overall character.
Scorpion used to be one of my top characters, but I don't like him as much as I used to. It's a shame that such carelessness went into developing his story that it's done in a way that fucks things up badly. *sighs*

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And the main problem with that is, they never bothered to explain WHY Scorpion thinks its the same guy, I mean did he ever ponder how Sub-Zero came back. Basically what Vogel's saying is that Scorpion's a fucking idiot... *sighs* 
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