MK ERRORS!!!!!
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posted09/28/2003 08:37 AM (UTC)by
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09/24/2003 10:42 AM (UTC)
If you notice within the MK games whenever a character goes to do a fatality such as a torso rip the body of the character is not picked up, but ripped in half. In real life this simply would not happen. They body would have to be held to the ground so that it would not come up when the character tried to rip the torso off. When I worked at Midway this was a huge controversy. The whole office was up in arms over this. John Vogel and I fought over this many a days. Even our wives were not on speaking terms because of this. We finally came to the conclusion that the only way to settle the dispute was with some old fashioned Kombat. I was scorpion and John was sub-zero, the classic battle of the ninjas, an age-old controversy. We were playing MK Trilogy mind you and I was the victor, finishing John off with a brutality. Let me tell you John almost pee'd his pants after he saw my skills in the outerworld. See unbenounced to him I had been practicing on my days off work. I was ready for him. He had no chance. I had recently been doing finger exercises to get my fingers in shape for the big battle I knew was just looming over the horizon. Anyways to make a long story short, I was fired from Midway and John has hated me ever since. Even though I won the battle John did not change the error in the torso fatality and to this day it upsets me. Not a day goes by when I don't think about the possibilities. How much more realistic MK would have been if John would have only listened. If anyone ever wondered why this mistake was never corrected now you know why. :::MK4Life does a babality on John:::
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balkcsiaboot
09/24/2003 12:41 PM (UTC)
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Damn kid... it's just a freakin video game. They didn't put a label on the box saying THIS GAME IS COMPLETELY BASED ON REALITY. Get a grip.

And if you ask me... I think you're full of shit.
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KNIGHT1
09/24/2003 03:34 PM (UTC)
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I think that dude needs some toilet paper to wipe his mouth from all the shit he is talking! Go home kid!furious
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KNIGHT1
09/24/2003 03:34 PM (UTC)
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I think that dude needs some toilet paper to wipe his mouth from all the shit he is talking! Go home kid!furious
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balkcsiaboot
09/24/2003 03:51 PM (UTC)
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LMFAO
That was great.

knight1 Wrote:
I think that dude needs some toilet paper to wipe his mouth from all the shit he is talking! Go home kid!

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09/24/2003 07:09 PM (UTC)
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guys..stop it(that was funny though)

but this person has a disability...he is mentally handicapped..he is insane..and we cant make fun of crippled people..its just wrong
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MaRcElunbeatable
09/24/2003 07:11 PM (UTC)
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Mr.666 whats up w/ your avatar? is it shadowed?
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09/24/2003 07:47 PM (UTC)
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i dont believe i have an avatar..shadowed? dunno..dont really care..
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Sub-Zero_7th
09/24/2003 07:52 PM (UTC)
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Mk4Life Wrote:
If you notice within the MK games whenever a character goes to do a fatality such as a torso rip the body of the character is not picked up, but ripped in half. In real life this simply would not happen. They body would have to be held to the ground so that it would not come up when the character tried to rip the torso off. When I worked at Midway this was a huge controversy. The whole office was up in arms over this. John Vogel and I fought over this many a days. Even our wives were not on speaking terms because of this. We finally came to the conclusion that the only way to settle the dispute was with some old fashioned Kombat. I was scorpion and John was sub-zero, the classic battle of the ninjas, an age-old controversy. We were playing MK Trilogy mind you and I was the victor, finishing John off with a brutality. Let me tell you John almost pee'd his pants after he saw my skills in the outerworld. See unbenounced to him I had been practicing on my days off work. I was ready for him. He had no chance. I had recently been doing finger exercises to get my fingers in shape for the big battle I knew was just looming over the horizon. Anyways to make a long story short, I was fired from Midway and John has hated me ever since. Even though I won the battle John did not change the error in the torso fatality and to this day it upsets me. Not a day goes by when I don't think about the possibilities. How much more realistic MK would have been if John would have only listened. If anyone ever wondered why this mistake was never corrected now you know why.

:::MK4Life does a babality on John:::


Well first off, Sub-Zero is not a ninja; he's a Lin Kuei warrior.

Second of all, you got fired because you kicked John's ass in MKT and he almost pee'd his pants???

And lastly, MK is not exactly realistic. It has some realistic qualities and some very unrealistic qualities but I'm sure you know that since you say you worked for Midway.
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09/26/2003 02:55 AM (UTC)
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Ok Mr. Sub-Zero_7th. Listen up Jr. I worked at Midway for a long time with some of the greatest minds out there. There is no one better educated on the ways of Kombat than me. I helped create sub-zero and most of his moves. Like his sub-xerox for example, the inspiration came to me when I was making copies for John Vogel on a Xerox and right then I had a revelation. So I pitched the idea to John and Ed Boon and they were overjoyed. That is quite the story. Anyways, Sub-Zero_7th you are right that Sub-Zero is part of the Lin Kuei. But, the Lin Kuei is a NINJA clan. If you dont believe me check out the booklet for MK trilogy that comes with the cd and on page 24 you will see that in both sub-zero's (unmasked and original) they make a reference to him being a ninja. Also, check out the OFFICIAL mortal kombat trilogy fighters kompanion and on page 20 you will see that it says "sub-zero was betrayed by his NINJA clan, the Lin Kuei. Its too bad you suck at Kombat and know nothing about it. Its kinda sad really. Secondly, yes that is the exact reason I got fired and John almost peeing his pants was quite the sight. Yes it does have both qualities and if you read my post you will realize that I was upset about this "error" that could have been corrected to make MK a more realistic game. This would simply have made it better. Its really sad that you guys think this is a joke, its really not a laughing matter. I gotta go and vent on some MK Trilogy, later.

:::MK4Life does a friendship on all his enemies:::
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Zentile
09/26/2003 10:14 AM (UTC)
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Whoa, you are one sad puppy.

First of all, SubZero was hardly flaming you, so why dont you stfu, okee dokee? Okee.

Now, Mr. ex- Midway worker, that little story you wrote up there sounded like absolute bullshit, infact, I'm pretty sure you're full of it. So sure in fact, that I'm willing to fight you in kombat, in an arena in outworld (not outerworld, you sad, sad man).
You little poop, it says in MK Mythologies (which came after MKT, so it basically over-writes the facts stated in Trilogy) that the Lin Kuei dont like to call themselves ninjas. So if they dont define themselves as ninjas, I doupt you have the right to.
You're not normal. You're insane. I doupt John Vogel would almost pee his pants because some idiot who likes full, absolute realism in video games beat him in MKT. I doupt you would get fired over it, though you would probably get fired for being the sad puppy that you are.
I seriously dont believe that John Vogel, who was superior to you (that is, if you did work at midway, which you didnt) would challenge you to fight in MKT to decide a stupid little thing. Boon and Tobias made the decisions back then, why would you matter? Why would your opinion, shit, why would your life be of any matter to the game?
Can we have your name, btw, Dr. Loomis?
Tell me, when a person is insane- as you clearly are- , do you know that you're insane?
Do you just sit around, looking at guns and ammo, masturbating on your own feces, do you just stop and go:
''Whoa! This is amazing, I'm fucking crazy, I really am!''
Is that how you think?

:::Does an animality on Saddam Hussein:::
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09/26/2003 06:33 PM (UTC)
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mk4life Wrote:
Ok Mr. Sub-Zero_7th. Listen up Jr. I worked at Midway for a long time with some of the greatest minds out there. There is no one better educated on the ways of Kombat than me. I helped create sub-zero and most of his moves. Like his sub-xerox for example, the inspiration came to me when I was making copies for John Vogel on a Xerox and right then I had a revelation. So I pitched the idea to John and Ed Boon and they were overjoyed. That is quite the story. Anyways, Sub-Zero_7th you are right that Sub-Zero is part of the Lin Kuei. But, the Lin Kuei is a NINJA clan. If you dont believe me check out the booklet for MK trilogy that comes with the cd and on page 24 you will see that in both sub-zero's (unmasked and original) they make a reference to him being a ninja. Also, check out the OFFICIAL mortal kombat trilogy fighters kompanion and on page 20 you will see that it says "sub-zero was betrayed by his NINJA clan, the Lin Kuei. Its too bad you suck at Kombat and know nothing about it. Its kinda sad really. Secondly, yes that is the exact reason I got fired and John almost peeing his pants was quite the sight. Yes it does have both qualities and if you read my post you will realize that I was upset about this "error" that could have been corrected to make MK a more realistic game. This would simply have made it better. Its really sad that you guys think this is a joke, its really not a laughing matter. I gotta go and vent on some MK Trilogy, later.

:::MK4Life does a friendship on all his enemies:::


you had nothing to do with the creation of sub-zero. read the official mortal kombat 2 magazine series (1-5). it tells how they came up with sub-zero and the rest of the characters..as well as their fatalities.

what about mkm? it was made after trilogy. to quote sub-zero:"im am not a ninja, i am lin kuei, scorpion was a ninja"..just cause it says "ninja clan" doesnt mean anything..it says warrior clan in mk4, so??. read the mkm story..the lin kuei arent a ninja clan, the shirai ryu was the first ninja clan.

in the mkt book for n64 it says rain was lin kuei, but he isnt as its a printing error...in mkda (and mkte) they spelled shinnok as "shinook"...


and how would you get fired for beating john??? if he worked for midway..and you worked for midway..then john couldnt fire you midway would. john had no say in who got fired. he (as well as boon) was just the head of the creation team. they work for midway. if they dont deliver the goods, then they get fired. the company decides who works on what...and i strongly doubt midway fired you for beating john..in fact, i know they didnt.

if youre so good, we can play mk when ever you want. we can use zsnes, mame, and a few others.
put you money where your mouth is oh mighty creator of sub-zero and his moves.

i think you were making copies of your face on the xerox machine and it fried your brain.
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omairqayyum
09/26/2003 07:58 PM (UTC)
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MK4LIFE U NEED 2 GET A LIFE!!! YES!!! A REAL 1!!!
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MaRcElunbeatable
09/26/2003 10:24 PM (UTC)
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Never in your life type in caps
omairqayyum Wrote:
MK4LIFE U NEED 2 GET A LIFE!!! YES!!! A REAL 1!!!

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09/26/2003 10:42 PM (UTC)
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hey marcel..maybe u should rub his nose in the caps..that way he will never do it again...it works for dogs
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MaRcElunbeatable
09/26/2003 10:54 PM (UTC)
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ROFL! grin
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hey marcel..maybe u should rub his nose in the caps..that way he will never do it again...it works for dogs

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Sub-Zero_7th
09/27/2003 12:26 AM (UTC)
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mk4life Wrote:
Ok Mr. Sub-Zero_7th. Listen up Jr. I worked at Midway for a long time with some of the greatest minds out there. There is no one better educated on the ways of Kombat than me. I helped create sub-zero and most of his moves. Like his sub-xerox for example, the inspiration came to me when I was making copies for John Vogel on a Xerox and right then I had a revelation. So I pitched the idea to John and Ed Boon and they were overjoyed. That is quite the story. Anyways, Sub-Zero_7th you are right that Sub-Zero is part of the Lin Kuei. But, the Lin Kuei is a NINJA clan. If you dont believe me check out the booklet for MK trilogy that comes with the cd and on page 24 you will see that in both sub-zero's (unmasked and original) they make a reference to him being a ninja. Also, check out the OFFICIAL mortal kombat trilogy fighters kompanion and on page 20 you will see that it says "sub-zero was betrayed by his NINJA clan, the Lin Kuei. Its too bad you suck at Kombat and know nothing about it. Its kinda sad really. Secondly, yes that is the exact reason I got fired and John almost peeing his pants was quite the sight. Yes it does have both qualities and if you read my post you will realize that I was upset about this "error" that could have been corrected to make MK a more realistic game. This would simply have made it better. Its really sad that you guys think this is a joke, its really not a laughing matter. I gotta go and vent on some MK Trilogy, later.

:::MK4Life does a friendship on all his enemies:::


Well I think you need to be taught a few lessons about the Lin Kuei and the Shirai Ryu.

The Lin Kuei existed way before Ninjas were created. Some of the Lin Kuei techniques were incorporated into certain styles of Ninjitsu. Lin Kuei is chinese for Forest Demon. Ninja is Japanese for Silent Warrior. See the difference?

Shirai Ryu is one of 73 schools of Togakure Ryu (now called Bujinkan) Ninjitsu. Togakure Ryu is known as one of the oldest styles of Ninjitsu.

Lin Kuei has a Shr-Lin (grandmaster) and U-Lin (wizard) while in the Ninja, there are Jonin (leaders), Chunin (elders), and Genin (standard warriors)

I'm aware of the bios and endings from the MK games that refered to the Lin Kuei as "Ninjas" but the MK team fixed the storyline so that it can be more accurately related to the Lin Kuei in real life when they came out with MKM: Sub-Zero.

And please don't call me Jr. or question my knowledge and skill in Mortal Kombat, because I've been playing MK games for many years. If you think you know so much about MK and think that I don't know enough, I dare you to test your skills against ]0MBAT.
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09/28/2003 07:36 AM (UTC)
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Ok first of all Zentile you said mkm says that the Lin Kuei dont like to call themselves ninjas. I worked at Midway until MKT and had nothing to do with that change. They were ninjas until then and I have every right to call them so. Secondly, Boon and Tobias did make the decisions, but I came up with some ideas. This is why I matter. Just because I didnt make the Final decision doesn't mean they dont need other people involved with the thought process.

Scorpio- I claimed that I HELPED create sub-zero. I offered the sub-xerox which came in MK3, which is after the books were made. Even so, you don't even know who I am so how could you make that claim in the first place. Secondly, I never once said JOHN fired me, I simply said I was fired from Midway. Please actually read my post next time and try to understand it.

Sub-Zero 7th- I worked until MKT as previously stated and had nothing to do with that change. That change does not affect me.

Finally I wanted to ask The_Purple_Bunny to be accurate in his claims of derogitory comments.

"And mk4life, while I think you having worked at midway is BS, that's irrelevant to me telling you to lay off the insults and derogitory comments, since I doubt anyone who works at or worked at Midway would act with the immaturity you do."
-The_Purple_Bunny (in post: "is shao kahn reiko")

If you will notice bunny that Zentile makes some nice comments as well that you have said nothing about. I only ask that you be accurate in your comments.

"Do you just sit around, looking at guns and ammo, masturbating on your own feces, do you just stop and go:
''Whoa! This is amazing, I'm fucking crazy, I really am!''
Is that how you think?"
-Zentile

"I think that dude needs some toilet paper to wipe his mouth from all the shit he is talking! Go home kid!"
-Knight1

This is not necessary. I'm just trying to have an intelligent MK convo.

:::mk4life does a friendship on everyone:::

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~Crow~
09/28/2003 07:47 AM (UTC)
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"Don't insult my intelligence Sandloser. Oh and btw you spelled intelligence wrong. I think that says enough about your knowledge in general.

:::Mk4life chops off Sandloser's head:::"

If you have to stoop to changing a user's name so you can degrade them, you are pretty immature. Regardless if I think you used to work for Midway, that sort of behavior is for people that should be too young to even be on the internet. TPB closed the thread because you all were arguing, and the argument was off-topic. Simple as that.
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Shinnox
09/28/2003 08:29 AM (UTC)
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up until now, i was actually trying to restrain myself from flaming...but i guess youre being to much of an ass. claiming all of this shit without proof...i think your just some fuck that has nothing better to do.
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09/28/2003 08:37 AM (UTC)
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Ok, this is the 2nd time I've had to close a topic because it got off-topic with this who works for midway junk.

Keep in mind, and this especially goes for you mk4life, that a debate on your past better not ruin another topic that has nothing to do with it.
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