My Opinions On MKII's Shawn Attacks, And What I Think They May Be
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posted05/18/2004 07:30 PM (UTC)by
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In a stragety guide I bought a while back on MKII, there was a small interview with Ed Boon, and John Tobias in the back. One of them said that Shawn Attacks were in the game. By playing MKII, and every MK game after that, I think the Shawn Attacks stayed except for MKDA. I believe that Shawn Attacks were ways that the CPU would cheat. Yet, in MKII there were some Shawn Attacks that you could perform randomlly. Below is the list of Shawn Attacks I think that may be in MKII for each fighter. Has anyone seen any of these except for the on obvious red shawn attack,
and has anyone seen any I have not.

Liu Kang=Does two to three Bicycle Kicks in a row
If you have to charge LK for nearly 3 to
5 seconds, this seems impossible
Johnny Cage=Red Shadow Kick that randomlly happens
Kung Lao=Haven't Seen Anything Odd
Reptile=Bodyless Skull Snack Fatality. I have
tried this three different ways and I
cannot eat someone's head while invisible
Sub-Zero=Ground Freeze an opponent in the corner.
We cannot do this.
Kitana=A double fan toss.
Jax=Isn't Everything A Shawn Attack?
Shang Tsung=Morphs from one fighter directly to
the next without morphing back to
himself first.
Baraka=Haven't Seen Anything Yet
Mileena=Throws 2 to 3 Sia Shots in a row. Another
charge button move that seems impossible
to do on your own.
Scorpion=Does four to five Teleport Punch passes
Raiden=Teleports in the air.

What do you guys think?
I've also seen the ones for MK3/UMK3/MKt too. An example so far: Has anyone else seen Kabal walk on the air?
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VarLordahl
05/11/2004 04:04 AM (UTC)
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I think this post begs the question for those of us that don't know -

WTF is a Shawn attack? I mean, I can deduce it from what you posted, but i'd like to know for sure.

Also, I have done Reptile's fatalities (both of them) numerous times on SNES and Arcade.
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05/11/2004 06:49 AM (UTC)
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"Shawn Attacks" is a listing in the audits menu of MK II arcade, along with "Watchdogs".

I'm not sure exactly what a shawn attack is, but I know it's not the CPU cheating. The CPU cheats in like every match and the Shawn Attack counter doesn't go up.
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05/11/2004 08:55 AM (UTC)
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NOTE.....i play this game for hours and hours daily w/ mame (gotta love mame killera online) ask konqrr.....so i know what im talking about......

Liu Kang=Does two to three Bicycle Kicks in a row
If you have to charge LK for nearly 3 to
5 seconds, this seems impossible
(i have done this w/ liu kang..a few times....)

Johnny Cage=Red Shadow Kick that randomlly happens
(ive seen johnny do this tons and tons of x,s)

Reptile=Bodyless Skull Snack Fatality. I have
tried this three different ways and I
cannot eat someone's head while invisible

(u know ive tried this tons of x,s on version 3.1,but im thinking i should try it on version 2.1 i think thats when it will work..cuse i have done this in the cades 10 years ago)

Sub-Zero=Ground Freeze an opponent in the corner.
We cannot do this.
( i have seen this and whenever its done to me it pisses me off cuse its not suppose to happen) grr lol

Kitana=A double fan toss.
( uhh noo only the computer can do this,trust me i play w/ kitana all the time shes my fav)

Shang Tsung=Morphs from one fighter directly to
the next without morphing back to
himself first.

(ujmm havent seen this if it really is possible i like to see it,it'll make him a much better player =-) )

Mileena=Throws 2 to 3 Sia Shots in a row. Another
charge button move that seems impossible
to do on your own.
( this is easy.. i do this all the time..well i can get 2 on the screen not 3...id like to try though lolol)

Scorpion=Does four to five Teleport Punch passes
Raiden=Teleports in the air.

(i have not seen anything w/ these 2... interesting if it true...i have seen the computer do tons of teleports w/ scorpion though.damn cheap ass computer lol.....)
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Eliminator
05/11/2004 11:39 AM (UTC)
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I've heard somewhere that Shawn Attacks were when the round ended in a draw (and in the same vein, Watchdogs occurred when time ran out in a round.)

Also, how could they keep track of the CPU overstepping the game rules?
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Sub_Zero_13
05/11/2004 07:41 PM (UTC)
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Another one that ALWAYS pissed me off... Now I'm not sure 100% about arcade, but at least in Genesis version, Mileena does her uppercut without ducking, it pisses me off so much.
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05/11/2004 09:40 PM (UTC)
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In every version of MK2 the computer walks in and uppercuts without ducking, as anyone.

Anything in the audits in any MK game that no one has ever seen with the value other than 0 is nothing but a joke and does nothing in the game.

ERMACS
KANO TRANSFORMATIONS
SHAWN ATTACKS
JOHNNY CAGE TRANSFORMATIONS

On my MK2 3.1 the WATCH DOGS counter is at 167, and MK3 2.1 it is at 57.

Watch dogs is simply how many times you have gone into the Test Menu. This way they can keep track of it, incase the people renting the machines were tamporing with the pricing and stuff, at least I would assume.

Matt

danadbab Wrote:
NOTE.....i play this game for hours and hours daily w/ mame (gotta love mame killera online) ask konqrr.....so i know what im talking about......

Liu Kang=Does two to three Bicycle Kicks in a row
If you have to charge LK for nearly 3 to
5 seconds, this seems impossible
(i have done this w/ liu kang..a few times....)

Johnny Cage=Red Shadow Kick that randomlly happens
(ive seen johnny do this tons and tons of x,s)

Reptile=Bodyless Skull Snack Fatality. I have
tried this three different ways and I
cannot eat someone's head while invisible

(u know ive tried this tons of x,s on version 3.1,but im thinking i should try it on version 2.1 i think thats when it will work..cuse i have done this in the cades 10 years ago)

Sub-Zero=Ground Freeze an opponent in the corner.
We cannot do this.
( i have seen this and whenever its done to me it pisses me off cuse its not suppose to happen) grr lol

Kitana=A double fan toss.
( uhh noo only the computer can do this,trust me i play w/ kitana all the time shes my fav)

Shang Tsung=Morphs from one fighter directly to
the next without morphing back to
himself first.

(ujmm havent seen this if it really is possible i like to see it,it'll make him a much better player =-) )

Mileena=Throws 2 to 3 Sia Shots in a row. Another
charge button move that seems impossible
to do on your own.
( this is easy.. i do this all the time..well i can get 2 on the screen not 3...id like to try though lolol)

Scorpion=Does four to five Teleport Punch passes
Raiden=Teleports in the air.

(i have not seen anything w/ these 2... interesting if it true...i have seen the computer do tons of teleports w/ scorpion though.damn cheap ass computer lol.....)


I played MKII all the time 4 SNES and I can do some of the stuff you're talking about. Granted ,most is classic mk cpu cheating
-MULTIPLE CHARGE MOVES(BICYCLE KICK/SAI THROW)
All I do is charge the button again as soon as I let go bicycle kick charge time is 3 sec.,sais are 2 sec.
-CAGE'S RED SHADOW KICK HAPPENS RANDOMLY
When I do a shadow kick it's sometimes red and has an electric sound like when Rayden wins.I'd like to know why.I do like the red one better^_^
-GROUND FREEZE IN CORNER
You have to be a certain distance away ,or sometimes if you do it while your opponent jumps over you into the corner.
-REPTILE'S INVISIBLE TONGUE LASH FATALITY
I tried all Reptile's finishers invisible can't remember results.For his friendship/babality he just reappears though.
If you set in MAME Autofire on, you can do the bycicle kick unlimited times in a row (yes he keeps in the air, the same works with Raidens shock grab and Jax,s ground stomp.
It works in UMK3 too, you can make a 99% Dmg combo with Liu Kang with autofire on, of course this is cheating but it works.
About Reptile invisible Fatality, yes it works perfectly on my MK2 SNES Europe version.
You can just make you invisible and do his head eat fatality.

The red shadow kick is indeed random, but from the theory, it could happens 2 or 3 times in a row with superb luck.
The other thinks like double Fan Toss is just the cheating AI in MK2.
The same shit in MK3/UMK3 with double net or double dash Kabal/Cyrax ect.
The CPU is cheating in every MK games (I dont know about MK4 but I think there too.
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scorpionspupil
05/18/2004 12:17 AM (UTC)
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when i play mk2 on my genesis as cage every time i do a shadow kick or shadow upper cut either i don't know what your talking about or mine is special or something im not lying
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DeadMan90
05/18/2004 07:30 PM (UTC)
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A lot of the stuff is quite frankly true, but the only game that has really gotten me that ticked off was UMK3...particularly going up against Jade.

You throw a projectile, you're pretty much screwed with her.
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