Relly the only person I do not like is Cobra.

Other than that, Evey one else is cool with me.

MK2 - Ninjas and Raiden suck.
MK3 - Sheeva and Shang Suck
UMK3 - Sheeva, Shang, and Scorp.
MKT - wow, Sheeva and Shang still suck.

no way does Sheeva suck.

I wish they did not killed her off though. I hopeing one day I see her in other MK game lol.

She was the LAST Shokan fighter made though. After that, we got no new Shokan fighters lol.

I think the next Shokan champ should be called I dont know lol.

But I want other Shokan fighter to appear, maybe other female, called Barria or something lol. That way we will be even, 2 males and 2 females.

And make her one of Goro's 7 wifes. lol

To have another bland 4 armed person in the roster? No way.

Anyhow, I can remember that the MK ninjas were pretty unusable in MK2 compaerd to the other characters.

If you are talking about actually playing the game, yes she sucks. Enormous hitboxes open her up for tons of stuff. Her roundhouse has good reach but terrible speed. Projectile fires off fast but has huge recovery time, teleport stomp is easily avoided (by walking >_
And why the hell didn't she get an air throw? That would have kicked her up a few notches and it would make perfect sense since she has 4 arms and all...

Story\Character wise:
1.Scorpion
2.Ermac
3.Tanya
4.Kobra
5.Kira

Gameplay wise:
Mk1-Scorpion,Shang Tsung,Kano
Mk2-MALE ninjas
Mk3-Sheeva,Shang Tsung
UMK3-Scorpion,Sheeva,Shang Tsung,Reptile
MkT-Goro,Motaro,Shao Kahn,Scorpion
Mk4-All of them
MKDA-Kano,Drahim,Li Mei,Bo Rai Cho,Scorpion
MkD-Scorpion

Just ones I hate:
1.Scorpion
2.Ermac

Dreemernj wrote :

"If you are talking about actually playing the game, yes she sucks. Enormous hitboxes open her up for tons of stuff. Her roundhouse has good reach but terrible speed. Projectile fires off fast but has huge recovery time, teleport stomp is easily avoided (by walking >_
Well the hitbox of sheeva is maybe big, but she is curiously not that easy to juggle. In fact, she is one of the hardest-to-juggle characters, along with liu kang (if you try to infinite her with kung lao from the ground, it will be much harder than again the other characters besides). However she is probably the weakest character of the game, yes.

About scorpion in Umk3 : he is definitely not in the top tier but it would be false to think he completely sucks....he is very fast and has very easy-to-do and useful special moves, especially his airthrow that even can be performed at one millimeter from the ground .... really effective...


pierre

mk1-sonya
mk2- mileena
mk3- stryker, sektor, cyrax, nightwolf, sonya, smoke, shang tsung, jax and sheeva
mk4- fujin, sonya, and jax
mkda- reptile, cyrax, movado, bo rai cho
mkd- darrius, kobra, dairou

mk1...kano sucks as does sonya

mk2...shang or baraka

mk3..sheeva,shang, nightwolf

mk4 the whole game sucks

Her and Liu fly higher which changes timing on the juggles, but the hitboxes being huge make her one of the easiest chars to get relaunch infs on. The only place her hit boxes are an advantage to her are when her legs don't register hits, mainly in corner juggling. It seems like her legs were so huge a target that they took the hitbox off of them entirely leading to hits that touch but don't actually connect.

I say scorpion sucks mainly because his existance is pointless since Human Smoke is there, not necessarily because I think he is worse then everyone else but Shang and Sheeva. Looking back, I should have made that clear.

Shang Tsung is the absolutely hardest character to juggle in UMK3. Sheeva can easily receive Kung's secondary juggle infinite, and Liu Kang is actually a lot easier to juggle than you think since he bounces higher.

Character hit boxes are mathematical. They start in the center of the character and work their way outwards on every frame, a percentage (about 30%) of the entire diameter of the character's cropped area (so 15% out from the center towards each side) and are usually the exact height in pixels of the character's cropped sprite. So a character who's legs stick straight up in the air at their floating frame will have a smaller horizontal hittable area than say, Jax or Stryker whose legs are practically straight out, making almost double the hit area, but will have a bigger verticle attackable area, making things like relaunch combos easier, but it still depends on how close they are to the ground. Other characters who have a much more selective hit area simply cannot be relaunched by some characters due to recovery of the launcher or positioning of the punch compared to opponent's location.

Even though it is easier to relaunch Sheeva, she still has the same window of unblockable frames as just about any other character. The Robots have a slightly bigger window of unblockable relaunching than everyone else for whatever reason. Some characters cannot be relaunched without it being unblockable, meaning you have three options, it'll connect, miss completely and whiff the following attack, or juggle before they hit the ground, unlike the Robots and Sheeva who have the ability to block relaunch combos if they aren't timed properly, and I think a couple other characters, maybe Kung Lao and Nightwolf.

Scorpion, even though Smoke exists, is still a high mid tier character because he has a teleport and an air throw, 51% punisher combo, good basic moves, etc. However, Dreemer's point is that, why bother using him (in tournament play) if Smoke is available.

i think ill go with the genral opinion and say sheeva sucked, ass, because other than the jump-on-'em-stomp (which was a pile of shit anyway, too easy to see coming) she sucked.

ill say kobra in MK:D, does anybody even take the time to use him?

shang tsung in mk1 sucked too, i mean, come on, morphing into kano for god sakes, or any other normal character, he was not worthy of the title "boss".

reiko, definetly reiko, he sucks, he started a load of shit about him being kahn and, well, is there any other reason xcept him just being reiko?

i think thats it.

Matt wrote :

"However, Dreemer's point is that, why bother using him (in tournament play) if Smoke is available."

there is a good reason to use scorpion instead of hsmoke in fact: indeed there seem to be a lot of umk3 players who see badly the fact of taking top tier characters like kabal and hsmoke. they often go like: "this doesn't need skills, that hsmoke character is broken", so against that people, scorpion is a good compromise since he is still good, but no more in the top tier.
I almost feel uncomfortable now when I pick hsmoke or kabal on kaillera besides. Against some players, if you pick hsmoke twice, even if it's out of 15/20 matches, they will say that you have a magnet on him. Omg....


pierre

There's still no reason to pick Scorpion, and if you do random matches, lose a bunch and go for Smoke just to win casuals that's crap, because the other person isn't playing to counter Smoke, that's all it is. Scorpion may not have a 50% autocombo set up, but he does have a 51% punisher which works well against Human Smoke obvsiously, there aren't many other characters you need to worry about 50%ers from that Scorpion's teleport and air throw won't help him be a pain in the ass, but, overall his damage isn't as high as it needs to be to compete.

I don't think anybody sucked in Mortal Kombat. Now the moves & the customs I have to call out on that. I know for a fact that sonya looked like a man in the first mortal kombat. The announcer guy even said finish him & that was just the icening(misspelled on purpose) on the cake. Now Mortal Kombat 2 had something odd going down. Dispite it being the second game & everything having to be cool, it had somethings I didn't like either. So why does Kung Lao kiss you? Is it suppose to be a headbutt? We don't know but blood comes off so it must be a headbutt. Now does Baraka look like they picked him out of a group of people playing basketball? We don't know but for sure that basket ball shirt & those hot keds had something going for him so we are cool with it. One thing that took me back is that they had secret characters that looked like the originals but had a different color on. you know the entire Scorpion Sub-Zero thing. Well that's about all I have to say.

Hey tall stranger Ermac kicks ass. Now c'mon guys why do you hate Kobra & Kira so damn much? They're just Johnny Cage & Sonya evil & with out the enitre sexual tension.

Kung Lao did a hat slice. Thats why blood came out when he swiped his head near his opponent. You know, bladed hat and all.

kung lao has really wicked fatalities in mk2, Ed Boon has maybe taken his inspiration from the "goldfinger" movie(=james bond with sean connery) for that decap fatality...

pierre

Five people that suck?

Blaze, Mokrap, Kai, Jarrek, Reiko

mk1 kano, mk2 reptile, mk2 sub zero,umk3 sheeva, umk3 liu kang.

ps : it's not only my opinion, it's also the truth.

pierre

5 ppl that suck:

Stryker, Liu Kang, Sheeva, Nightwolf and Mileena

I don't know if MK4 counts but if it does then: Kai, Jarek, Tanya, Shinnok.

I don't count Kobra, Kira, Dairou and Darrius cause they haven't been and never will be in a classic MK game.

Mokap,Blaze,Kai,Shinnok,Jarek

the only character i dislike the most is mileena, i suck with here never did like here since mk2-mka and still going
MK1-none
MK2-scorpion/mileena
MK3-none
UMK3-mileena
MKT-mileena
MK4/gold-mileena
MKDA-reptile
MKD-mileena/havik
MKA-mileena/havik/blaze shuda kept same blaze from mkda he didnt need to get bigger

i practice all the time with mileena and jus cant do her, lol