Reptile 100% after Popup
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posted02/25/2006 05:55 PM (UTC)by
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psykosonik
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11/18/2004 02:43 PM (UTC)
this one was supposed to be in the next combo vid, but we got so many insane reptile stuff that we have to cut some reptile combos and this was one of them, but its i think is too cool to pass up:

http://mk.ediko.net/umk3/rep100popup.wmv


^_^
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jtaylo
02/21/2006 09:09 PM (UTC)
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cool. Can stryker's across the screen 100% be started with a JP starter to pop up combo? Because I noticed Reptile's 100% can't be initiated if the pop up is started with JP.
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psykosonik
02/21/2006 09:21 PM (UTC)
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jtaylo Wrote:
cool. Can stryker's across the screen 100% be started with a JP starter to pop up combo? Because I noticed Reptile's 100% can't be initiated if the pop up is started with JP.


you mean jp/jk starter then gun? yeah it can be done but from corner to corner even with triple aaHP it will not be 100%, you need few more hits to get 100% when you reach the corner: http://mk.ediko.net/archive/movies/100s/umk3/stryker.wmv
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krsx66
02/21/2006 09:25 PM (UTC)
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Wow, nothing like a good ol' 27 hit death combo! Man, that musta taken a lot of effort to pull off, kudos from me.

And I know, I know - it deserves like 3 dragon points, but the policy is 1 for an individual combo, sorry.
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Selpex
02/21/2006 09:57 PM (UTC)
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its actually 28 hits
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psykosonik
02/21/2006 10:25 PM (UTC)
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let me say something about all this dp crap. someone made a fake picture - hey thats cool (if the picture is not one fucken ugly paint creation like some of them) but he got at last 2 (two) dp for it! and for combos that costs me nights (yeah totally nights) to get like this one i receive what 1 dp? hah no thanks, what kind of policy is that??? i did not do this combo for dragon points believe me, but if you will give 3 dragon points for some fake pic/bios or story and 1 for a combo that only one or maybe two
(three?) persons in the World can do, then better remove it, its just humiliating, and this is not the first time... whatever i will not post a single combo anymore here, take care!
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DAVE101
02/21/2006 11:58 PM (UTC)
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It took you that long to do it? How many hours did you have to record to get that? Were you constantly recording or did you just record over your messups?
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dreemernj
02/22/2006 12:06 AM (UTC)
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DAVE101 Wrote:
It took you that long to do it? How many hours did you have to record to get that? Were you constantly recording or did you just record over your messups?


I know I've had a lot of combos in the combo vids that took many nights of tries to get just right, because sometimes the timing is just that close to impossible.

I would usually use MAME and record input for like 20 minutes at a time on my old comp and then when I finally got something, I would replay it and record the combo off of the playback with a screen grabber.

I have not been involved in the last few combo vids as much, but when I wasn I would usually just get it until I could do the whole combo, and then make a replay of just the combo, like the game starts up, 2 chars are picked, the combo is performed and then finish, and I send that to MK2KungBroken to record. I could record it on here but he has very specific things he does so that they stay uniform looking.
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DAVE101
02/22/2006 01:11 AM (UTC)
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Neat-o.... I wish I was good at stuff....

So this screen grabber, that would be something along the lines of something that could record anything on screen?
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krsx66
02/22/2006 03:03 AM (UTC)
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psykosonik Wrote:
let me say something about all this dp crap. someone made a fake picture - hey thats cool (if the picture is not one fucken ugly paint creation like some of them) but he got at last 2 (two) dp for it! and for combos that costs me nights (yeah totally nights) to get like this one i receive what 1 dp? hah no thanks, what kind of policy is that??? i did not do this combo for dragon points believe me, but if you will give 3 dragon points for some fake pic/bios or story and 1 for a combo that only one or maybe two
(three?) persons in the World can do, then better remove it, its just humiliating, and this is not the first time... whatever i will not post a single combo anymore here, take care!


Ok, let me break it down for you.

The maximum number of dragon points we can give for a post is 5. Therefore such a score is reserved for the best of the best only in terms of posts.

Hence, combo videos such as MKKompletions or Konqrr's MKII vid are the videos that are only worth the maximum 5 dp's. They had the most effort put into them , most creativity, and best footage. Then you have to consider the editing, capturing, and putting it all together with an intro, songs and outro/ending. All this adds up to 5 dragons, because it is the highest rating we can give.

Combo videos such as the Service Packs or Ninja Grinder's would get a score of 3, due to less content and the fact that the presentation isn't as complete or as impressive (though impressive nonetheless) as the one's I mentioned above.

Average videos that had some effort put in, and pretty good quality receive 2 dragon points, a good example of this is asmodeus' MK vid posted in the movie forum recently.

Therefore, when it comes to one single combo posted, no matter the difficulty level, it should receive 1. However, I sometimes feel that is being a bit generous, so perhaps I shouldn't give any to any individual combos anymore? And perhaps you need to chill out and remember that it is only a MK fansite, and dp's really mean nothing? Maybe you should save up all these combos that you post singularly that don't make it into the big combo vids, and make a combo video of your own when you have enough footage?

As for ratings in other forums, I agree, I see dp's given out way too much to content that doesn't deserve a rating. However, I can only control my own ratings, not anyone else's, and I feel this combo video rating system is fair.

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DAVE101 Wrote:

So this screen grabber, that would be something along the lines of something that could record anything on screen?


Indeed it does. Camtasia is a good screen-cap program.
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dreemernj
02/22/2006 03:24 AM (UTC)
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krsx66 Wrote:
Indeed it does. Camtasia is a good screen-cap program.


That's what I use.
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02/22/2006 05:02 AM (UTC)
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Yeah the DP system is really screwey, I think doing such amazing things for the community like putting out serious, high quality, time consuming, intensive, elaborate, interesting, intricate, complex, creative and informative videos, doesn't necessarily require evaluation, because it's just inferred. The DP system is there as sort of a reward and reputation thing. So if someone sees you have an unusually high rank on the boards, they might respect your opinions, or seek help from you more likely than they would someone else. Judging how difficult a specific combo would be is kind of difficult in itself and distributing DPs according to that method is kind of subjective. An entire video filled with cool combos is worth 5 DPs, but it might have 40 combos in it, 20 of which might be DP worthy, and then presentation on top of that, it's all really hard to do. Personally, I think every one of our video deserves the max aesthetic attention the site can offer, even though it is in a forum that isn't quite as alive as the others might be, there is definitely more depth and flavor to it though so that's why it still attracts new people. The Service Packs were originally intended to be minute long, 10 combo samples because we didn't think we'd come across a lot of the stuff we did. This didn't happen, we just kept recycling the term, but each of our videos is a full video, with I think the lowest combo count being like 36 and that is SP1, and that's still a 5 minute video.

In any event, believe it or not this Reptile combo is just a small taste of what is to come in the next DarkTemplarZ.com UMK3 combo video. Stay tuned, and once again, thanks ded_.
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Ninja_Mime
02/22/2006 01:25 PM (UTC)
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That combo was great.

How long did it take you to get it?
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DAVE101
02/22/2006 09:23 PM (UTC)
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Hmmm.. So if you have the right positioning with just the right timing... Could the main part of the reptile combo (aaHP, aaHP, Dash) become an infinite? Could it be possible to had hundreds more moves like this with just perfect timing and positon?

krsx66 Wrote:

DAVE101 Wrote:

So this screen grabber, that would be something along the lines of something that could record anything on screen?


Indeed it does. Camtasia is a good screen-cap program.

I'll give that a try. Everything else so far slaps their product name over the video unless I buy it.
EDIT: Oh... that cost money too.
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psykosonik
02/22/2006 09:29 PM (UTC)
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DAVE101:
Could aaHP x 2, Dash be inf?



No.
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02/22/2006 10:38 PM (UTC)
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The minimum drop for ideal timing is about 3 pixels or something for the first few volleys, so you can get a lot, but I think as they get lower they might drop exponentially. It also depends on the character, Shang Tsung can only be juggled twice and you have to really time it strangely. Everyone else is a minimum of 5 dash punch sets, I think. ded_ will correct me.
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psykosonik
02/22/2006 11:36 PM (UTC)
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yes, shang is a nightmare when it becomes to juggleing, for reptile
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02/23/2006 02:59 AM (UTC)
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good job ded... i really enjoyed it, also saw how u ended with LP's tongue its the only way.. then again, i cant do one dash even if i wanted, so props to you, keep up the good work...
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krsx66
02/23/2006 03:12 AM (UTC)
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DAVE101 Wrote:
Everything else so far slaps their product name over the video unless I buy it.
EDIT: Oh... that cost money too.


Yeah, I know it sucks, all other screencappers include their watermark which makes it look ugly.

Camtasia offers a 30 day free trial though (or it used to anyways), if you are just gonna make one vid, then you might wanna look into that.
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DAVE101
02/23/2006 08:56 PM (UTC)
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Yeah krsx, At least Camtasia gives you the full intouched version without ruining your videos (well, to my knowledge). Even including the fact that you can only use it for a month (unless reinstalling -) ) it is still better then the other stuff I've been trying. I already have it on my pc. Just been messing around. But for some reason when I'm compiling the clips in the main program screen I can't preview it... I hit play but the screen stays blank.
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dreemernj
02/23/2006 09:01 PM (UTC)
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Are you compiling them in the Camtasia editor or in a different video editting program?
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DAVE101
02/23/2006 09:32 PM (UTC)
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In Camtasia, right after I record and save the file, it goes back to the main page where you can put the clips in the timeline, and add all the effects and what not. But I can't preview the clips or what I have in the timeline. I can't actualy watch what I recorded unless it's in the preview window that pops up right when you stop recording or after I save the video as a shareable file (wmv, avi, etc.)

To stay on topic, that reptile fatality, can any of the moves be subsituted or does it have to exactly like that?
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02/24/2006 07:47 PM (UTC)
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krsx66 Wrote:
psykosonik Wrote:
let me say something about all this dp crap. someone made a fake picture - hey thats cool (if the picture is not one fucken ugly paint creation like some of them) but he got at last 2 (two) dp for it! and for combos that costs me nights (yeah totally nights) to get like this one i receive what 1 dp? hah no thanks, what kind of policy is that??? i did not do this combo for dragon points believe me, but if you will give 3 dragon points for some fake pic/bios or story and 1 for a combo that only one or maybe two
(three?) persons in the World can do, then better remove it, its just humiliating, and this is not the first time... whatever i will not post a single combo anymore here, take care!


Ok, let me break it down for you.

The maximum number of dragon points we can give for a post is 5. Therefore such a score is reserved for the best of the best only in terms of posts.

Hence, combo videos such as MKKompletions or Konqrr's MKII vid are the videos that are only worth the maximum 5 dp's. They had the most effort put into them , most creativity, and best footage. Then you have to consider the editing, capturing, and putting it all together with an intro, songs and outro/ending. All this adds up to 5 dragons, because it is the highest rating we can give.

Combo videos such as the Service Packs or Ninja Grinder's would get a score of 3, due to less content and the fact that the presentation isn't as complete or as impressive (though impressive nonetheless) as the one's I mentioned above.

Average videos that had some effort put in, and pretty good quality receive 2 dragon points, a good example of this is asmodeus' MK vid posted in the movie forum recently.

Therefore, when it comes to one single combo posted, no matter the difficulty level, it should receive 1. However, I sometimes feel that is being a bit generous, so perhaps I shouldn't give any to any individual combos anymore? And perhaps you need to chill out and remember that it is only a MK fansite, and dp's really mean nothing? Maybe you should save up all these combos that you post singularly that don't make it into the big combo vids, and make a combo video of your own when you have enough footage?

As for ratings in other forums, I agree, I see dp's given out way too much to content that doesn't deserve a rating. However, I can only control my own ratings, not anyone else's, and I feel this combo video rating system is fair.

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really? then wheres the dragon points for this entire thread?

http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/forum/showmessage.cds?id=66345


and theres more by me that i never got any dragon points for, as well as quiks ermac combo, which is the highest in the game, why is that?
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psykosonik
02/25/2006 05:55 PM (UTC)
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Ya we can just say that after the next vid, this combo will not look impressive anymore ^_^

DAVE101 Wrote:
To stay on topic, that reptile fatality, can any of the moves be subsituted or does it have to exactly like that?


what do you mean? you can mix aaLPx2, aaHPx2, aaLP aaHP and etc..
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