Reptiles Apperance
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posted11/28/2004 06:35 AM (UTC)by
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Megakev
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10/14/2004 04:56 PM (UTC)
How come it has to keep changing all the damb time?
it was the best in the first place. since he stoped looking like a ninja i don't like him as much.
what do you guys think?
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10/14/2004 06:53 PM (UTC)
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I loved Reptile as a ninja. If you like the myths behind ninjas, then it gave you more options of which ninja you wanted to be. Keeping him human made more sence than in MKDA. That would explain his apperances as a human in other MKs. We want ninja Reptile. smile
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RottingCorpse
10/14/2004 08:04 PM (UTC)
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I also like him as a ninja. But I also think he needs a change. Maby give him snake eyes and a green tone to his skin. Some thig that will make him look more reptilen but still look like a human ninja.
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Stryker82
10/14/2004 08:35 PM (UTC)
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I know in MK Gold you can have ninja Reptile, by pressing start 2 twice on him, and then select him. It's not quite the same I know but it's still the closest so far.
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10/14/2004 09:40 PM (UTC)
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*sigh* I'm tired of this damn debate.

Here's why they changed him: He's a Raptor, a sentient offshoot to Earth's Dinosaurs that escaped to Zaterra during the war between Raiden and Shinnok. They aren't SUPPOSED to be human. Like chameleons, they can alter their appearance to blend in with their surroundings. Since Reptile started out as Shang Tsung's bodyguard, he took the appearance of a ninja to blend in with the other fighters. It wasn't until he was promoted to general of Kahn's army and subsequently lost his master, that Reptile's appearance broke down.

I know, there's a page in MK: DA's Krypt that says that Reptile's 'devolution' from his human appearance might've been due to his separation from the Raptor Matriarch, but considering that his appearance didn't change until AFTER he first thought his master was dead (between MK3/UMK3/MKT and MK4/MKGold), and that Kahn had all but annihilated his race centuries ago when he conquered Zaterra, this theory seems to be little more than just speculation. In truth, there's only two theories on why his appearance changed, both of which deals with his state of mind after he first thought Kahn was dead. It takes consentration on a Raptor's part to keep their false appearance up, and any waver or break in that consentration would ultimately reduce or destroy their masquerade. Since Reptile eventually became the new vessel for Onaga's ressurrection, there's only two theories for this: either Reptile was going mad with guilt over failing his master and let his fake appearance drop, or he KNEW his role in the ressurrection of Onaga at that time, and feigned madness to keep everyone off his back, dropping his human appearance in order to be less identifiable (remember, Shang Tsung didn't first recognize Reptile in his current *and, what I believe, true* form when they met in Deadly Alliance).

So, there you go. Reptile is NOT human, was NEVER human, and, therefore, will NEVER look human again, especially now that he's been possessed by Onaga's soul and Kahn is officially dead. His human appearance in the past games was little more than a disguise in order to blend in. This had been decided long ago by Boon and Tobias, so stop asking for Midway to return Reptile to being just another palette-swap ninja: they won't. He's better off this way, trust me.
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Megakev
10/17/2004 07:10 PM (UTC)
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i wasn't asking for him to change back. i just liked him better the way he was, and was questioning why he was changed in the first place. because an awful lot of people liked the ninja reptile better.
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Noob-Smoke
10/17/2004 08:42 PM (UTC)
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First to rottingcorpse, just a minor nitpick but one I take personal, it's spelled Maybe... and I think it's easy to spell cuz it's just the combination of two words, may and be..so sound it out lol.

Anyway spoilers from MKD







it looks like in MK7 Reptile will be back in MK2 form.... in Sindel's ending, she transfers the soul/essense of Onaga to his original body, and at the end you see Reptile (the former host of Onaga) transferring into MK2 Reptile
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10/17/2004 09:11 PM (UTC)
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Megakev Wrote:
i wasn't asking for him to change back. i just liked him better the way he was, and was questioning why he was changed in the first place. because an awful lot of people liked the ninja reptile better.


Here's how it works: People were complaining about how the ninjas they were coming out with were nothing more than palatte-swaps of each other. So, when they jumped on the 3D bandwagon, they tried to correct that by changing the looks of each of the ninjas they were using. They obvously though that keeping Reptile (a non-human chreature) a ninja just wouldn't work, especially with the new storyline they were giving him, so they decided to explore what he REALLY looked like.

It's sad; before they changed his look, everyone was complaining about how similar he looked to the other ninjas. Now, they're complaining that he looked better as a ninja. And it's not just Reptile that they're complaining about. Remember the Shredder comments about Subby's new look? Or how about the argument against Noob's alternate look, with the nomal-colored flesh instead of the pitch black we've seen throughout the years?

It sickens me to see this. First you complain about the ninjas being palette-swaps of each other, now you're complaining that the new looks for them are worse than when they WERE palette-swaps. Enough, already. You wanted the ninjas to have new and unique looks to them, and Midway responded. Stop complaining about the change. It's what YOU wanted, after all. Be happy that you can finally tell Scorpion from Rain, besides the simple hue of their outfits.

And, like I said on my last post, wishing for Reptile to return to being a ninja is wishful thinking. That's his new look, that's what he's gonna look like from now on, not the generic ninja. So give it up already, will ya? He's not human, nor was he ever human, so stop complaining that he should be a human-looking ninja.
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10/17/2004 10:53 PM (UTC)
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Reptile's alternate in MK:Gold and MK4 was cool.
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Noob-Smoke
10/17/2004 11:06 PM (UTC)
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"It sickens me to see this. First you complain about the ninjas being palette-swaps of each other, now you're complaining that the new looks for them are worse than when they WERE palette-swaps. Enough, already. You wanted the ninjas to have new and unique looks to them, and Midway responded. Stop complaining about the change. It's what YOU wanted, after all. Be happy that you can finally tell Scorpion from Rain, besides the simple hue of their outfits. "

I hate when people say shit like this. "First you people complain about this, then complain when they change it"... why the hell are you assuming they're the same groups of people?

I've NEVER complained about the Ninja look but am a person who hates the lizard look.. obviously there are people who feel the opposite.
I always loved palette swaps.... it felt like you were playing a prime character
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10/18/2004 12:41 AM (UTC)
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SynjoDeonecros Wrote:
Megakev Wrote:
i wasn't asking for him to change back. i just liked him better the way he was, and was questioning why he was changed in the first place. because an awful lot of people liked the ninja reptile better.


Here's how it works: People were complaining about how the ninjas they were coming out with were nothing more than palatte-swaps of each other. So, when they jumped on the 3D bandwagon, they tried to correct that by changing the looks of each of the ninjas they were using. They obvously though that keeping Reptile (a non-human chreature) a ninja just wouldn't work, especially with the new storyline they were giving him, so they decided to explore what he REALLY looked like.

It's sad; before they changed his look, everyone was complaining about how similar he looked to the other ninjas. Now, they're complaining that he looked better as a ninja. And it's not just Reptile that they're complaining about. Remember the Shredder comments about Subby's new look? Or how about the argument against Noob's alternate look, with the nomal-colored flesh instead of the pitch black we've seen throughout the years?

It sickens me to see this. First you complain about the ninjas being palette-swaps of each other, now you're complaining that the new looks for them are worse than when they WERE palette-swaps. Enough, already. You wanted the ninjas to have new and unique looks to them, and Midway responded. Stop complaining about the change. It's what YOU wanted, after all. Be happy that you can finally tell Scorpion from Rain, besides the simple hue of their outfits.

And, like I said on my last post, wishing for Reptile to return to being a ninja is wishful thinking. That's his new look, that's what he's gonna look like from now on, not the generic ninja. So give it up already, will ya? He's not human, nor was he ever human, so stop complaining that he should be a human-looking ninja.


Congratulations, You've stumbled across opinions. It is some peoples' opinion that Reptile was bad as a pallet swap, and some peoples' opinion that Reptile is bad in his 3D lizard like form. Generally those two groups are exclusive. So get over it.

Personally, I always liked Reptile as a pallet swap, I thought he looked cool (him and smoke were my favorite color schemes for the ninjas). I personally would like a more ninja-esque look for him, and it doesn't really matter what the storyline is, because I am just saying how I would want him to look. I even did drawings a while back of what I thought he should look like as a more lizard-like character but still in the ninja outfit. I also want a Human Smoke again, even though that has not been in his story line.

So maybe, since this thread's title is "Reptiles Apperance" we can focus more on aspects of his appearance then on aspects of his storyline, and the history of opinions of MK fans.

Holla.
If they're going to explore his "true" form, give him a form that doesn't look like you puked on a monkey(MK4), or give a croc the ability to walk upright(DA). Make test models to see if it looks right first, then choose the most correct looking one. I don't care for the overall look of Onaga I think a dragon shoul be a velociraptor with wings (Riptor+Nitara-ish)

My favorite forms, in the order I like them:(my opinion)
MKII -The CLIMAX of the ninja outfits
MK -bad halloween costumes
MKDA -I like it, and he looks reptillian, instead of a puked on monkey(MK4)
MKD(Onaga) -He doesn't look all that great, to me
MK3/U3/T -I HATE ALL THE MK3/U3/T NINJA OUTFITS
Movie(human form) -I like it
MK4 -I ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS FORM!!! What the hell did they drink, puke back up, dry out, and then proceed to smoke?
Movie(Reptile form) -Who put grafitti on that poor....thing?



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10/20/2004 03:48 PM (UTC)
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I'm surprised that no one has appreciated his MK4-MK:G look yet. That was by far my favorite, becasue that's hiow i pictured him under the ninja mask. I had appreciation for the ninja forms, but i was annoyed at the pallette swap factor. His MK:DA version annoyed me becasue he wasn't human enough, it was turning MK into Tekken with animal fighters, a concept that always confused me. To me his MK4-MK:G look was the best. It was reptilian (like Reptile) not a palette swap, you COULD see his ninja outfit if you wanted too, but it was still humanesqe enough to not be cheesey (my ultimately hated ones though were his awesomley STUPID transformation in the movie and his MK:DA form...i appreciated everything else, but i love his MK4-MK:G form!) those are my thoughts...tonguetongue
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10/31/2004 08:29 AM (UTC)
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Kinetic is right, you should be able to choose, intead of having tae same thing twice like in MKDA. Seriously, a skull is such a big difference!!!
By the way, Stryker and Link are cheap.
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angelsmommy2002
11/01/2004 04:24 AM (UTC)
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Swaps didn't bother me much,

MK1, MK2, UMK3, MKT

Alt costume on MK4 and MK Gold where all good.

The best was the Alt on MK4 and MK Gold. Perfect in the since it was original, detailed very good on the skin and eyes yet still NINJA.

MKDA was the worst Reptile ever.

Just flat out made me sick, Reptile is my favorite character but I didn't play him much in MKDA just b/c of how stupid he looked.

my 2 cents
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ReptileAcidSpit
11/01/2004 11:19 PM (UTC)
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I like ninja Reptile better. I understand he's a raptor and his human appearance is just that...an appearance. I don't think it's the fact that he's changing into his true form that bothers me, it's that his true form just..looks out of place. If they made it look better then I would have no problem. But since his raptor form looks so out of place...and we've already seen how cool he looks as a ninja, I think I'd like him to be a ninja.
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TheDarkMonk
11/06/2004 08:50 PM (UTC)
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I think your right i think that reptile looked better when he was in Mortal Kombat:2.
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predac0n
11/07/2004 04:30 PM (UTC)
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I Dnt Care if Reptile was a Pink Fussy Cat as long as he continues 2 kick as im very well happy with him
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predac0n
11/07/2004 04:31 PM (UTC)
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Reptile Owns All!!!!!!!!!
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Keith
11/07/2004 08:59 PM (UTC)
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I think his reptile ninja look from MK4/Gold was great.
I didn't like his MKDa look or his unmasked Mk4 look. But hi ninja suit with reptilian eyes and skin aregreat because it delivers classic reptile but still defines him as a reptilian creature. tongue
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DeepFreze
11/23/2004 12:50 AM (UTC)
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The palette swap ninjas defined MK. I like that look waaaaaaay better than the crap Midway is churning out to make them "ORIGIONAL." However, i loved his MK4 aperance cuz it WAS Reptile. If they wanted to make somthing origional they should have done it right. (Same goes 4 any Ninja still in action.)
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PThaGangsta
11/23/2004 08:20 AM (UTC)
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DeepFreze Wrote:
The palette swap ninjas defined MK.


True.

But they wanted to make a change. they should at least keep one of the ninja suit.
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takermk
11/23/2004 07:25 PM (UTC)
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His costume in UMK3 looks the best. I like all the palette swaps in that game anyways.
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11/25/2004 02:29 AM (UTC)
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MK4's, he looked reptilian without looking like dried puke(sorry, I lacked a better word) and still ninja like and even betterwas his Alt. where he was in nija outfit.
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Thunderg0d
11/28/2004 06:19 AM (UTC)
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Reptile in MK4 and after looks absolutely horrific, and not in a good way. Incredible how he becomes a creature that went wrong in Jurassic Park from the humanoid reptilian we all grew to know and love behind that mask. Funny how things started changing after Tobias took off. W/E. By the way, to that dude who gave us that background story on Reptile, thanks, but the discussion is how he LOOKS, not why he gave up his ninja costume.
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