Sub-Zero was Asian
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posted12/14/2006 04:45 PM (UTC)by
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hagugulley
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10/30/2006 10:59 PM (UTC)
Why did they change Sub-Zero ethnicity in MK3? Sub-Zero has gone from Asian, Caucasian, Cryomancer, now an Ice God. Why couldn't they have kept his storyline simple and stop changing his ethnicity?

Here is Sub-Zero unmasked in his MK2 ending for those who don't want to believe that Sub-Zero was Asian:
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XiahouDun84
11/13/2006 10:57 PM (UTC)
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Because aside from that picture in his MK2 ending, Sub-Zero was always played by either Daniel Pesina or John Turk...neither of which are Asian.

So they explained in Mythologies that his mother was American.
That ending pic is stupid anyway. I mean come on...look at that and look at this:

CLEARLY not the same guy.
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hagugulley
11/13/2006 11:17 PM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:
Because aside from that picture in his MK2 ending, Sub-Zero was always played by either Daniel Pesina or John Turk...neither of which are Asian.

So they explained in Mythologies that his mother was American.
That ending pic is stupid anyway. I mean come on...look at that and look at this:

CLEARLY not the same guy.


I heard about MKM talking about his mother being American. His mother is American, which means she could have been Asian American. American does not mean white. Actually his MK2 ending pics looks better than his bio pic you posted. His ending has Scorpion and the flame skull. All Sub is doing in his bio is crossing his arms. What is so cool about that?
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XiahouDun84
11/13/2006 11:24 PM (UTC)
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hagugulley Wrote:
I heard about MKM talking about his mother being American. His mother is American, which means she could have been Asian American. American does not mean white.

Yes, I know.

hagugulley Wrote:
Actually his MK2 ending pics looks better than his bio pic you posted. His ending has Scorpion and the flame skull. All Sub is doing in his bio is crossing his arms. What is so cool about that?

What? I didn't post the picture because it was cool or not...I posted it because you can clearly see it's two different actors playing Sub-Zero.
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hagugulley
11/13/2006 11:28 PM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:
hagugulley Wrote:
I heard about MKM talking about his mother being American. His mother is American, which means she could have been Asian American. American does not mean white.

Yes, I know.

hagugulley Wrote:
Actually his MK2 ending pics looks better than his bio pic you posted. His ending has Scorpion and the flame skull. All Sub is doing in his bio is crossing his arms. What is so cool about that?

What? I didn't post the picture because it was cool or not...I posted it because you can clearly see it's two different actors playing Sub-Zero.


How can you clearlysee it's two different actos playing Suz-Zero? He is wearing a mask.
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XiahouDun84
11/13/2006 11:30 PM (UTC)
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What a minute....aren't you Hagu7 who posted this same discussion last year?


I'm not even going to bother responding anymore.
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hagugulley
11/13/2006 11:36 PM (UTC)
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XiahouDun84 Wrote:
What a minute....aren't you Hagu7 who posted this same discussion last year?


I'm not even going to bother responding anymore.


Sorry but that is not me. I wasn't even on MKO last year. You won't bother responding anymore because you tried to put up an argument but lost.
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reptile88
11/14/2006 05:21 AM (UTC)
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Hagugulley,look at the first pic,his eyes are obviously not Asian,in the second pic you can clearly see that the person is Chinese,that was very cheap from the MKteam tongue,and Xiahoudun already explained your question.
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hagugulley
11/14/2006 06:21 AM (UTC)
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reptile88 Wrote:
Hagugulley,look at the first pic,his eyes are obviously not Asian,in the second pic you can clearly see that the person is Chinese,that was very cheap from the MKteam tongue,and Xiahoudun already explained your question.


Yes, but they made an effort to make Sub look asian on his ending. Why even go through the trouble? Sub in MKSM has asian eyes if you look close.
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Sub-Zero_7th
11/18/2006 01:48 AM (UTC)
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Sub-Zero is partially Asian. It's kind of strange with his ethnicity. I'm glad that at least an explanation was given to his more caucasian look.
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11/21/2006 05:46 AM (UTC)
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he really is caucasian
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MK_The_Pit
11/21/2006 06:18 AM (UTC)
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Yep, Scorpion, Liu-Kang, and Kung Lao are actually all caucasian.
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Shout out to sbdjuggalos he's the coolest dude.

11/21/2006 05:53 PM (UTC)
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right on that
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11/24/2006 03:26 AM (UTC)
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well, he looks american in mk3 and da
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MK_The_Pit
11/24/2006 05:26 AM (UTC)
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laofan Wrote:
well, he looks american in mk3 and da


I look American too!
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Shout out to sbdjuggalos he's the coolest dude.

11/24/2006 08:27 PM (UTC)
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Thats only when hes not a ninja,but he looks better in the ninja suitgrin
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MK_The_Pit
11/24/2006 10:05 PM (UTC)
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Thedogpound Wrote:
Thats only when hes not a ninja,but he looks better in the ninja suitgrin


True that! Actually I perfer his Shredder armor the best from MKD. By the way Sub-Zero is mixed with Asian and White.
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mkflegend
11/24/2006 10:38 PM (UTC)
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MK_The_Pit Wrote:
Yep, Scorpion, Liu-Kang, and Kung Lao are actually all caucasian.



Lui Kang and Kung Lao aren't caucasion, they're asian.

BTW, I'm fine with Subby turning into an Ice God.It makes perfect sense to me, I mean...he's the master of ummm ICE lol.

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MK_The_Pit
11/25/2006 12:24 AM (UTC)
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mkflegend Wrote:
MK_The_Pit Wrote:
Yep, Scorpion, Liu-Kang, and Kung Lao are actually all caucasian.



Lui Kang and Kung Lao aren't caucasion, they're asian.

BTW, I'm fine with Subby turning into an Ice God.It makes perfect sense to me, I mean...he's the master of ummm ICE lol.



That was just a joke man. I just hope Sub keeps his armor.
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Kombat_Veteran
11/25/2006 01:15 AM (UTC)
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this is another example of the MK logical paradoxes.

another is reptile. in MK1-mk4, reptiles face was more humanlike in shape.
Then im MKDA, his face became a giant iguana head, which couldnt have possibly fitted inside a human ninja mask for disguise. its clearly not even the same shape. So apparently, reptile changes his head structure just as subzero changes his race.

human smoke also changed, he went from flesh and blood to a hollowed out ninja with smoke inside his clear skin skeletonless structure. another weird paradox. compare human smoke from UMK3 and MKD
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XiahouDun84
11/25/2006 01:20 AM (UTC)
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Kombat_Veteran Wrote:
this is another example of the MK logical paradoxes.

another is reptile. in MK1-mk4, reptiles face was more humanlike in shape.
Then im MKDA, his face became a giant iguana head, which couldnt have possibly fitted inside a human ninja mask for disguise. its clearly not even the same shape. So apparently, reptile changes his head structure just as subzero changes his race.

human smoke also changed, he went from flesh and blood to a hollowed out ninja with smoke inside his clear skin skeletonless structure. another weird paradox. compare human smoke from UMK3 and MKD

Reptile devolved. This was explained in MK:DA.
Smoke isn't human anymore. The "smoke" that makes up his body now is actually millions of nanobots. This was explained in Deception.
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12/10/2006 06:22 AM (UTC)
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Sub-zero was asian Scorpion was asian whats next..Stryker being a indian
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12/13/2006 10:47 PM (UTC)
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Crymsynmk3 Wrote:
Sub-zero was asian Scorpion was asian whats next..Stryker being a indian
LOL grin.
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Sub-Zero_7th
12/14/2006 02:18 AM (UTC)
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Crymsynmk3 Wrote:
Sub-zero was asian Scorpion was asian whats next..Stryker being a indian


You're not making any sense...
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12/14/2006 04:45 PM (UTC)
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Given that the user has been banned, no need to keep this discussion open. And for the record...
Sub-Zero is Chinese, but has Caucasian blood in him, so whatever the white represents, he has it, but since Americans have so much European blood in them without knowing the origins, we'll never be able to say specifically what Sub-Zero is and are limited to Chinese-American.
Scorpion was Japanese, but keep in mind that now his origins mean dick, as he's not even human anymore; and just because his mask makes him look white means nothing, becasue that skin is a part of his mask.
Stryker's name is Danish in origin.
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