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The Johnny cages Theories.. (Please read and answer)
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posted07/31/2005 05:48 AM (UTC)by
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I want to clear my soul about all thoses things around Johnny cage's story, first his too many deaths and then the Goro thing... (fight against him..), at last Johnny and Sonya love.


JOHNNY'S DEATH
Johnny first dies at the beginning of MK3, according to MKT he resurface. His soul regain his body and could live again...

So then the strange Deaths of Johnny Cage comes...

At the beginning of MK4 : he is Dead (according to the end of MKT), but regain his life thanks to Raiden... (argh !!!)

In MKDA he is alive, according to the story, he was never dead, just things about his movies when he constantly die. (!!!!)

THE GORO FIGHT
Why always thought Johnny Cage fought against Goro...

1- He do it in the Movie (ok, it's only lovie)
2- Midway may keep it for the game
3- In MK4, kombats in 2 on 2 with CPU, Goro always with cage.
4- in MK4 Goro never (or very rarely) understand the Shadow Kicks...
5- in MKDA, you can find in the Krypt the fuck!ng picture when Goro ripp off the head of Johnny... :s :s :s !!!!!!!!!!!
6- in MKD, you could see Johnny face Goro in netherrealm


JOHNNY LOVE SONYA
Like in the movie Midway keep the idea : Finish MKDA wih Cage you will see.


What do you think about all of that ?
So, Johnny cage never die ?????
Johnny Cage fought with Goro
And Johnny is in love with Sonya.
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 •07/04/2005 04:22 PM (UTC) •
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Johnny Cage died in MK3. His soul couldn't move on because the Outworld/Earth merger blocked paths to the afterlife (same reason Scorpion couldn't summoned back to the Netherealm during MK3). He returned to fight and after Kahn was defeated he was pulled to Heaven or whatever MK's Heaven is. In MK4, Raiden fully resurrected him to help fight against Shinnok.
However, Vogel recently said that was stupid and it never happened. It was all somehow just in his movie. While that makes little sense to me, that seems to be the official word, so Cage's Trilogy and MK4 bios are meaningless.

Cage only fought Goro alongside Kano and Sonya at the end of MK1. That was it. Goro and Johnny Cage have no grudge as far as I'm concerned.

Although it's never really addressed in the games, Sonya and Cage being love is something been more or less accepted from the movies. It was supposedly hinted at in the comics, but they're not canon either.
I have no problem with Cage and Sonya being in love. Doesn't make much difference to me. Adds a little bit of depth to an otherwise shallow character.
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 •07/04/2005 07:09 PM (UTC) •
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Your points to "prove" that Johnny Cage and Goro fight don't add up to anything worthwhile. There were tons of meaningless pictures in MKDA/MKD Krypts, if we take those as "fact", then shouldn't Quan Chi be releasing a jazz album? Johnny Cage fought him with Sonya and Kano, but nobody won due to Shang Tsung's island being destroyed, and Raiden rescuing Cage. MKSM looks set to retcon this whole fight, instead Johnny is seen fighting Reptile.

Although I think they are a terrible matchup, it looks as if Johnny does have feelings for Sonya, or at least finds her sexy. Not only the MKDA ending, but also the MK4 comic, I think he makes a pass at her. (written by John Tobias, so official). Sonya doesn't return these feelings though.

As for him not dying in MK3, this was stupid, but sadly has to be taken as fact. They could have done a lot with his death and ressurection. For example, death could have tainted Johnny's soul (through escaping the afterlife maybe?) enough to enter MKD as Earth's great hope against Onaga. He'd have made a far better MKD hero than shitty old Shujinko. Now Vogel has to give a convincing explanation for WHAT Johnny was doing when he was supposed to be dead. I don't see him filming a movie while Kahn invades the Earth, do you?
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 •07/04/2005 08:09 PM (UTC) •
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here is a possible scenario:

After MK2 Johnny Cage finds himself as a target for Kahns extermination squads and fights alongside Johnnz Cage. He gets fatally wounded at the wars beginning, and he has to struggle for his life as the merger of he realms collide. Liu Kang manages to defeat Shao Kahn but Johnny Cage is still in critical status, but escapes death. At the beginning of MK4 raiden asks for the benefit of the lingering soul of cage and he can remain on earth and recovers quite fast.

Remember, the MK storz is told as if like a storz, so the words in particular can mean symbolics or methaphors.
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 •07/17/2005 11:17 PM (UTC) •
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I love your stories...

Hopping we will learn a little bit more on Cage/Goro into MKSM.
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•07/18/2005 03:24 AM (UTC) •
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There actually may be some sort of history between Cage and Goro. I was looking at the character bio videos on the collector's disc that came with Deception and it list Johnny Cage and Goro as enemies in both of their videos. Hopefully Shaolin Monks will give some details on this fued.
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 •07/18/2005 01:24 PM (UTC) •
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YES TRUE I FORGET THAT !!!!!!!!!! Good Point man !!!
Johnny and Goro still enemies...
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•07/22/2005 06:30 PM (UTC) •
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More Johnny Cage madness!

  • Before MKT came out with the story about the Extermination Squads killing him and his soul not being able to move on, there was a sound file on Ed Boon's website that explained Kintaro had killed him in MKII. http://tabmok99.mortalkombatonline.com/mk3snd.wav
  • As a side note, this whole "multiple deaths of Johnny Cage" thing is the reason why in my sprite comics, Johnny Cage tends to die over and over and over again :P
  • In the MKII comic by John Tobias (who knows if it's still going to be canon with MKSM coming out), just after Liu Kang had defeated Goro and was now fighting Shang Tsung, Goro was busy fighting Johnny Cage, Kano, and Sonya all at once. Perhaps that split punch that Johnny Cage did to Goro in the movie was a canon move after all ;)
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 •07/23/2005 12:06 PM (UTC) •
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Hum... Dude ???? Did you sure that was on Ed Boon's site ??? (about that son of Johnny's Death) and it's official. Ive also that son but founded on a site telling it's a fake made my someone...
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 •07/23/2005 01:39 PM (UTC) •
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It's not fake. It was released by the MK team way back in 1995 before MK3 had shipped.

That gong sound from MK3's intro is in it and there's no way a fan could have used it since the game wasn't even out then.
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 •07/24/2005 06:53 PM (UTC) •
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Anyway, that was bullshit !!!
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 •07/31/2005 05:48 AM (UTC) •
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Danm, seriously that they thinked about putting that sound on MK3 intro? Man, its so danm funny!!
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