Where was Johnny Cage?
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posted08/24/2003 12:12 AM (UTC)by
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I know this question might have been brought up on the forum's quite a few times, and addressed or not addressed at all. But I'm still a little in the dark on why Cage did not appear in MK3. I heard he was dead or some shit like that but he comes back for no appariant reason. So if anyone does know what happened, could you care to shed some light on someone who should have paid more attention to the forum's to see if this question was already asked?
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08/17/2003 12:33 PM (UTC)
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Johnny Cage was killed in MK2, which is why is wasn't present when Shao Kahn invaded the earth in MK3. Once Shao Kahn is defeated in MK3, Johnny Cage's soul no longer belongs to Shao Kahn and is able to rise to the higher plane.

Now, you can pretty much forget whatever crap was dished out in MKT about Johnny Cage and go straight to MK4.

Johnny Cage witnesses Shinnok's rise of power in the Netherealm and watches Shinnok eventually break free. When the other earth warriors engage him in battle and try to stop him, Johnny Cage asks Raiden to restore his soul so he can join his friends in the battle with Shinnok.

After MK4 he keeps his soul and returns to his acting career until Shang Tsung and Quan Chi team up and Raiden asks his assistance in stopping them.

Does that clear things up?

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08/17/2003 02:26 PM (UTC)
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Well, after MK2, Cage return to Earth. The movie Mortal Kombat II was released and was a great success. Johnny just have to wait until MK3.

So he have the invasion of Earth. Kahn send his extermination squads to kill every earth warrior. Johnny was a victim.

But in MKT, the soul of johnny could not go to the heaven because the portal in the sky. So, he returns to his body and fight again.

In MK4, Cage was in heaven and saw the fight in the god's palace. He ask Raiden to help, and he was ressurected.

The only explanation that I don't have is about Cage ending in MK4.

Well, all the storys have to be considered.
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08/17/2003 03:14 PM (UTC)
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Cage's ending in MK2 never happened, so you shouldn't be considering it. Cage didn't defeat Shao Kahn. Cage was killed before Kahn's Earth invasion, not during it. The story they put into MKT was just there to justify his existence in the game, it was never actually an integral part of the story. Cage never regained his soul until MK4.

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08/17/2003 09:31 PM (UTC)
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was MKT even supported by the original mortal kombat team?
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08/17/2003 10:11 PM (UTC)
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White_Pointer Wrote:
Cage's ending in MK2 never happened, so you shouldn't be considering it. Cage didn't defeat Shao Kahn. Cage was killed before Kahn's Earth invasion, not during it. The story they put into MKT was just there to justify his existence in the game, it was never actually an integral part of the story. Cage never regained his soul until MK4.

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I disagree.

I think that Cage's ending in MK2 happens in the part of the second movie. I really don't think that Cage defeated Kahn.

And MKT story must be considered. See the look that Cage had in MK4. Is the same of MKT. Some storys of MKT make a bridge to MK4, like Mileena and Noob Saibot.
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08/18/2003 01:48 AM (UTC)
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Gilac Wrote:

I disagree.

I think that Cage's ending in MK2 happens in the part of the second movie. I really don't think that Cage defeated Kahn.

And MKT story must be considered. See the look that Cage had in MK4. Is the same of MKT. Some storys of MKT make a bridge to MK4, like Mileena and Noob Saibot.


Dude...forget the movie storyline. They screwed up big time. That's another reason MK:A sucked, they didn't follow the story properly.

The story they put in for Cage in MKT was just there to justify his existence in the game, same as about a dozen other characters. Why is Raiden there when he supposedly can't interfere any longer? They just wanted to make a game with all the previous MK characters in it, so disregard any story that might have been given about half the characters in MKT.

Mileena wasn't in MK4, I don't know where you got that idea from. She was in MK Gold, yes, but again you shouldn't be paying too much attention to the stories provided in MK Gold for the same reason as you shouldn't in MKT.

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08/18/2003 04:08 AM (UTC)
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Hey, I'm not talking about the movie Annihilation. I was talking about Mortal Kombat II, one of the many movies that Johnny Cage was,like Dragon Fist I, Dragon Fist II, Sudden Violence and Mortal Kombat. His storyline had this information.

About the upgraded games, It is my opinion, that they complete the storyline. To me the definitive version of MK3 is MKT and the same for MK4 with MK Gold.

About Raiden, he really could not interfere at the begining of the invasion. So he saw like the things are going, and gave up the immortality and becomes mortal to fight. A god could not interfere, but a human can.
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08/18/2003 01:43 PM (UTC)
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In the games, Cage was killed during the early parts of Kahn's invasion, by his Extermination Squads. Because Kahn was merging Outworld with Earth, Cage's soul couldn't reach the Heavens, an so his soul was forced back into his body. This is the MKT story.

In the real world, Daniel Pesina, who played Cage, appeared in an ad for Bloodstorm, bashing Mortal Kombat, and was fired. They could not get a replacement actor for him in time for MK3, so they made the storyline that he died in MKT to justify Cage's absense.

In MK: DA, we're now made to believe that Cage's death never really happened, and that his entire storyline was really a movie script. At least that's what I've been getting out of it.
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08/18/2003 07:00 PM (UTC)
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Johnny Cage is killed prior to MK3 and then he asks Rayden to bring him back after UMK3.
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08/23/2003 12:31 AM (UTC)
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Here's all you need to know:

Midway decided to take Cage out in MK3 because they wanted to spice things up a bit and get some new characters going.

Then everyone complained. I think they underestimated how popular he was, so they decided to bring him back.

Any story you read is just what they threw together to try to justify this, but that's how it went down in the real world.
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08/23/2003 08:01 PM (UTC)
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Actually TPB was right. And during that time Mr. Pesina was suing midway. A couple other people were suing as well, that is why sonya was changed, and when cage was brought back they put gloves on his hands.

There is a guy's master thesis I read once that was put into pdf format that talks about the resultant trials and tribulations of those court decisions.

If someone wants to read it just ask.

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08/24/2003 12:12 AM (UTC)
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Thank's for clearing that up everyone.
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