1. Not really sure, but the Dev team will probably find a way to bring him back in Mortal Kombat,just like they did with Johnny Cage

2.Kabal will always have his hookswords even if Mavado the bastard, took them from him.
Mavado should never be in an MK game again simply because he was basically a copy of Kabal

Kabal is indeed in Deception. If the character wearing the gas mask isn't Kabal, then I'll be damned. And since Mavado is possibly not in the game, he'll have his Hookswords. If Mavado IS in the game, then he'll have a different weapon. What is Kabal without hookswords?

Kabal has a unique knack of surviving when everyone thinks he died. I honestly don't believe he was actually killed only serverely injured again. As for Mavado not showing up and the hooksword issue...*shrugs* Kabal got them back, and I don't think we'll be seeing Mavado anytime soon. (Sound of funeral march in background)

If kabal and Mavado were in the same game then Mavado would have a different weapon, not Kabal because Kabal owns the Hookswords

Savior Wrote: Mavado should never be in an MK game again simply because he was basically a copy of Kabal

How was Mavado a copy of Kabal? The only things they have in common are the hookswords, and the fact that both are or were members of a criminal organization.

Anyway, like LadyRaiden said, Kabal is good at playing possum. He probably narrowly survived Mavado's beating. Or maybe Mavado just found a pair of hookswords somewhere, and when his Red Dragon buddies asked him where he found them, he bullshitted and said he killed Kabal and stole them from him.

As for why Kabal would have his hookswords back, as the previous theory suggests, Mavado may not have taken them from him. Or, if Mavado did steal them from him, maybe Kabal had more than one pair. Or maybe he ordered a new pair online or from a weapon catalogue.

I think we'll find out that the reason Kabal hasn't been in the last two games was because Mavado stole his hookswords while he was cleaning out his mask, and so Kabal's been at the shop forging a new pair.

And yeah, there are no "clones" in MK. Mavado isn't a Kabal clone, Ben isn't a Johnny Cage clone, Li Mei isn't a Mileena clone, Frost isn't a Sub Zero clone, Kenshi isn't an Ermac clone and Ashrah isn't a Raiden clone.

Ok, there's one clone in MK: Mileena. It's been a while but I believe you find that out in Kitana's MKII ending.

LadyRaiden Wrote: Kabal has a unique knack of surviving when everyone thinks he died. I honestly don't believe he was actually killed only serverely injured again. As for Mavado not showing up and the hooksword issue...*shrugs* Kabal got them back, and I don't think we'll be seeing Mavado anytime soon. (Sound of funeral march in background)

This is a very likely possibility, which I wouldn't be surprised to see when the game is reelaesed. And once again, your sigs rule.

But just for the record guys, take note exactly of what the Konquest scripting said. It was "rumored" that Mavado defeated Kabal and took his hookswords. If was never meant to be taken as textbook knowledge.

bezou Wrote: I think we'll find out that the reason Kabal hasn't been in the last two games was because Mavado stole his hookswords while he was cleaning out his mask, and so Kabal's been at the shop forging a new pair. And yeah, there are no "clones" in MK. Mavado isn't a Kabal clone, Ben isn't a Johnny Cage clone, Li Mei isn't a Mileena clone, Frost isn't a Sub Zero clone, Kenshi isn't an Ermac clone and Ashrah isn't a Raiden clone. Ok, there's one clone in MK: Mileena. It's been a while but I believe you find that out in Kitana's MKII ending.

thank you no clones
1 smoke is not scorpion
2kenshi is not ermac
3 noob is not skab
4 li mei is not mileena and mileena is not sareena
5 ben is not cage
6 frost is not sub-zero 7 ashrah is not rayden and rayden is not rain 8 kabal is not mavado 9 hsu hao is not kano (the play alot alike) 10 and please god let reptile not be the dragon king please

bezou Wrote: And yeah, there are no "clones" in MK. Mavado isn't a Kabal clone, Ben isn't a Johnny Cage clone, Li Mei isn't a Mileena clone, Frost isn't a Sub Zero clone, Kenshi isn't an Ermac clone and Ashrah isn't a Raiden clone.

Actually my point about Mavado not being a Kabal clone is that they look completely different, and don't share any special moves, only a weapon. Mileena and Li Mei, however, share weapon AND costume color; and Frost and Sub-Zero share similar powers, as do Ermac and Kenshi. I wouldn't call Li Mei, Frost, and Kenshi "clones," but those who do have more grounding for it than saying Mavado is a Kabal clone. As for Ben and Ashrah, we have yet to see...

Li Mei's player 2 colours should've been her player 1 colours. That would've helped kill the theory that she is a Mileena clone. She plays NOTHING like Mileena.

Notcie how I said "BASICALLY", i never said he was an exact clone i was just saying he was a copy of Kabal because of his Hookswords

thats all i was tryin to say

bezou Wrote: Li Mei's player 2 colours should've been her player 1 colours. That would've helped kill the theory that she is a Mileena clone. She plays NOTHING like Mileena.

Well of course she "plays" nothing like Mileena; we played as Mileena in the fighting engine yet (well, except those who went to E3...). Unless you're referring to her special moves, in which case you're right. But the thing is, there's a difference between a "rip-off" and a "clone." A clone (from a creative, rather than biological, standpoint) is a physically exact duplicate. For example, the ninjas (whether male, female, or cyber) in MKT could be considered clones, because, although most have unique special moves and combos, they're pallette swaps.

A rip-off, on the other hand, borrows aspects ASPECTS of other characters, especially trademarks of other characters. For example, in MK4 Jarek took on Kano's trademark special moves and fatalities. They looked different enough, but they had the same trademarks. Likewise, Li Mei took Mileena's sais and her costume color. Now normally I wouldn't consider costume color a trademark, but Mileena is a pallette swap ninja, and thus identified by pink. This argument also holds true for Ermac and Kenshi, although the weapon part would obviously be replaced by their shared telekinetic powers. And with Sub-Zero and Frost, it's perhaps the biggest rip-off but the least of a clone. Of course Frost, being female, can't be said to be a "clone," but she's a ninja, wears blue, and has ice powers; plus her weapon style is based on the same premise as Sub-Zero's (blade[s] made of ice).

So why isn't Mavado's possession of Kabal's trademark hookswords a copyright infringement? First of all, both have other defining characteristics (Kabal's mask, blade summon and dizzy spin; Mavado's fierce clan loyalty and stupid red grappling hooks). Second, Mavado's possession of the hookswords is explained sufficiently in Konquest mode. Granted, so is Kenshi's telekinesis, but I think that defines him more than Mavado's hookswords define him.

Damn, sorry for the rant...moving right along...

I hope Kabal comes back with different weapons other than the hookswords! Mavado took them, it's part of the story!

It seems people never want to move on even though the story has taken a different direction! It's just the way it is.

However also in saying that and going the opposite way, i'm sure that Kabal had more than one set of hookswords. So he could've gone home to his weapons room and picked up his spare set.

MAVADO SUCKS! kabal should DEFFENIATELY have the hookswords!!! and he should also have some cool speed specials like the dizzy spin or tornado spin..whatever you call it.

right on Kabal should have his hookswords back

I'd like 2 see his ground blades in 3-D and a more realistic spin move!