A stage idea i made for rain, the rain towers bridge in mk8
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A stage idea i made for rain, the rain towers bridge in mk8
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MINION Wrote:
My ideas are creative. You're argument over my point is sensless. Characters in MKDA, & MKA, already have advantages over characters due to their Powerups. So it isn't like it's something new. What good are stronger Characters, if they all got the same Setup as everyone else. I mean look at it. Green Bay play Dallas at their own Stadium. That's and advantage due to fan's cheering and booing the away team. Everything in life has it's Advantages. I think i made my point. Good Day...
Casselman Wrote:
forst of all, the context of your whole statement has nothing to do with my point therefore makes no argument. im talking about the meaning behind stages, not powerups while fighting in them. try to think outside that little box for just a second. although gameplay is very important, story drives games the most. great games can fall with no story. my statements are directed towards rain getting his own stage. asking where it came from, who built it, why has rain been forced to survive if he has this fortress the entire time. why has be been forced to do the things he has done?
and out of nowhere your talking about powerups...
are u feeling ok? or did u maybe read the post wrong?
although powerups MAY seem like a good idea to a select fanbase. a few months after release. you along with many fans would be crying how a high tier character has his own stage and its not fair because he has power and health, and if your not host of a battle, you have no control over the stage.
so if it so happens that quan chi (for your reference purposes) is a highly powered high tier character. and you just happen to be challanged by somebody online that likes quan chi. since he challanges you. he gets to pick the stage. lets say that he picks quan chi, and since he has choice, picks the soul chamber or w.e.
lets now say that your in love with taven for some odd reason. and you want to pick him. you do. but he is not as high tier as quan chi. it is going to take every effort you have to overpower this guy if he knows what hes doing which i assume he does if he has that char and that stage. he then powers up or regains health or something that tilts the odds in his favour. i garuntee you would be one of the first on the forums complaining, not bashing you directly. but i know how you react to losing online since u stopped talking to be one for grabbing in a battle once. lol.
again nothing personal and i dont like to disagree with people. but its just another thing people will comaplain about. and i stand by my opinion of the stage/story reference. the team has enough tow orry about to make a good game as it is without working on stuff that is not an essential in the final product of a make or break for the series.
-Casselman
MINION Wrote:
Look at Quan Chi. he said in MKDA. his powers grew weaker when he was trapped by Scorpion, in the Netherealm. That was an advantage due to Scorpion being in his homeworld and Quan not able to house his energy. Another example, is Quan Chi's inner Sanctum chamber. Let's say, you're using Quan in MK8 in his level, and if he get's down in health, he should be able to absorb some energy from his sanctum. To fill his bar for say. Instead of the Taunt or w/e. or, for a powerup. Where he increases in size. Rain could get electricity from the sky in his stage to make it more Damaging. Instead of just powering up.
So like MKDA, Let's say Nitara's blood spit does 8, with the powerup it does 15. That's what im getting at. The more energy the kombatant get's from they're own element. The more health they can take from you're life bar.
Casselman Wrote:
as we have talked about minion, these stages have to do with the story.
kahns arena is his place in outworld where kintaro reigns supreme, kind of like an mma octagon of outworld. and his throne in the background shows he is heavily involved with it. he is also the boss and it was the final stage of mk2, it had to be something to do with the boss.
onaga took outoworld by storm, and transformed that area into his lair where he would keep the wood be kamidogu. its his home in outworld. also where the army was being held. so why move it all? he chose to have it tehre because of its significance. and he, again, was the final boss, so he wouldnt travel elsewhere for the final battle.
these are all intertwined with the story, im not against rain getting his own stage cuz hes an awsome character, but i feel if he had his own stage, it wouldnt go with the story, rain has been sort of worshiper/rogue throughout the whole series, he has not come into any power or become any point of athority, so it wouldnt make sense for him to all of a sudden to have a stage. who built it? where did it come from? why is it there?
rain's story, although not insanely farmillaiar with me, puts him on the outskirts of life and he uses his cunning as well as worship to survive, he has not been a dominant force to be feared as much as saho kahn, onaga, shinnok or the deadly alliance.
it could happen, but not without rain coming into power through frther story development. if it did, it wouldnt make sense.
-Casselman
as we have talked about minion, these stages have to do with the story.
kahns arena is his place in outworld where kintaro reigns supreme, kind of like an mma octagon of outworld. and his throne in the background shows he is heavily involved with it. he is also the boss and it was the final stage of mk2, it had to be something to do with the boss.
onaga took outoworld by storm, and transformed that area into his lair where he would keep the wood be kamidogu. its his home in outworld. also where the army was being held. so why move it all? he chose to have it tehre because of its significance. and he, again, was the final boss, so he wouldnt travel elsewhere for the final battle.
these are all intertwined with the story, im not against rain getting his own stage cuz hes an awsome character, but i feel if he had his own stage, it wouldnt go with the story, rain has been sort of worshiper/rogue throughout the whole series, he has not come into any power or become any point of athority, so it wouldnt make sense for him to all of a sudden to have a stage. who built it? where did it come from? why is it there?
rain's story, although not insanely farmillaiar with me, puts him on the outskirts of life and he uses his cunning as well as worship to survive, he has not been a dominant force to be feared as much as saho kahn, onaga, shinnok or the deadly alliance.
it could happen, but not without rain coming into power through frther story development. if it did, it wouldnt make sense.
-Casselman
Look at Quan Chi. he said in MKDA. his powers grew weaker when he was trapped by Scorpion, in the Netherealm. That was an advantage due to Scorpion being in his homeworld and Quan not able to house his energy. Another example, is Quan Chi's inner Sanctum chamber. Let's say, you're using Quan in MK8 in his level, and if he get's down in health, he should be able to absorb some energy from his sanctum. To fill his bar for say. Instead of the Taunt or w/e. or, for a powerup. Where he increases in size. Rain could get electricity from the sky in his stage to make it more Damaging. Instead of just powering up.
So like MKDA, Let's say Nitara's blood spit does 8, with the powerup it does 15. That's what im getting at. The more energy the kombatant get's from they're own element. The more health they can take from you're life bar.
forst of all, the context of your whole statement has nothing to do with my point therefore makes no argument. im talking about the meaning behind stages, not powerups while fighting in them. try to think outside that little box for just a second. although gameplay is very important, story drives games the most. great games can fall with no story. my statements are directed towards rain getting his own stage. asking where it came from, who built it, why has rain been forced to survive if he has this fortress the entire time. why has be been forced to do the things he has done?
and out of nowhere your talking about powerups...
are u feeling ok? or did u maybe read the post wrong?
although powerups MAY seem like a good idea to a select fanbase. a few months after release. you along with many fans would be crying how a high tier character has his own stage and its not fair because he has power and health, and if your not host of a battle, you have no control over the stage.
so if it so happens that quan chi (for your reference purposes) is a highly powered high tier character. and you just happen to be challanged by somebody online that likes quan chi. since he challanges you. he gets to pick the stage. lets say that he picks quan chi, and since he has choice, picks the soul chamber or w.e.
lets now say that your in love with taven for some odd reason. and you want to pick him. you do. but he is not as high tier as quan chi. it is going to take every effort you have to overpower this guy if he knows what hes doing which i assume he does if he has that char and that stage. he then powers up or regains health or something that tilts the odds in his favour. i garuntee you would be one of the first on the forums complaining, not bashing you directly. but i know how you react to losing online since u stopped talking to be one for grabbing in a battle once. lol.
again nothing personal and i dont like to disagree with people. but its just another thing people will comaplain about. and i stand by my opinion of the stage/story reference. the team has enough tow orry about to make a good game as it is without working on stuff that is not an essential in the final product of a make or break for the series.
-Casselman
My ideas are creative. You're argument over my point is sensless. Characters in MKDA, & MKA, already have advantages over characters due to their Powerups. So it isn't like it's something new. What good are stronger Characters, if they all got the same Setup as everyone else. I mean look at it. Green Bay play Dallas at their own Stadium. That's and advantage due to fan's cheering and booing the away team. Everything in life has it's Advantages. I think i made my point. Good Day...
i understand your comaprison to the football but im saying its bad for gameplay and would be too much for people who wanna cry over it.
im not saying anything degrading to your ideas, yea they are creative. but as your ideas are yin, there will be yang to them. everybody on this site has there own opinion and just because i express mine doesnt mean u have to take it personally.
i said many times, im not bashign anybody. just conveying my opinion.
bottom line
-rain stage in mk has no point without further plot development and contributes to your fanboyism
-your ideas are creative, just not applied in the best interest of an in depth fighting game imo.
-there was no point that you feel you have made, you want characters to have powerups. bottom line, which IN MY OPINION (which is totally valid and allowed) is a stupid idea, again, NOT CALLING YOU STUPID so stop with the offensive speech towards me, i can sense it in your attitude and it will make my life no different so theres no point.
-you havent answered my question, everything you're saying supports the idea that rain should have a stage. ir COULD work, but not with the current plot. so im gonna make u john vogel for a moment and give u a chance to change my mind for me, YOU change the plot to make it fit and il agree:
-who builds rain's stage?
-why did he not take shelter in it or involve himself in it throughout the difficulties in the series?
-and why now would he reside there while he ignored it?
-where is it located?
convince me, because u havent at all so far.
in the words of somebody on this forum.,,
MINION Wrote:
I think i made my point. Good Day...
I think i made my point. Good Day...
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Casselman Wrote:
i understand your comaprison to the football but im saying its bad for gameplay and would be too much for people who wanna cry over it.
im not saying anything degrading to your ideas, yea they are creative. but as your ideas are yin, there will be yang to them. everybody on this site has there own opinion and just because i express mine doesnt mean u have to take it personally.
i said many times, im not bashign anybody. just conveying my opinion.
bottom line
-rain stage in mk has no point without further plot development and contributes to your fanboyism
-your ideas are creative, just not applied in the best interest of an in depth fighting game imo.
-there was no point that you feel you have made, you want characters to have powerups. bottom line, which IN MY OPINION (which is totally valid and allowed) is a stupid idea, again, NOT CALLING YOU STUPID so stop with the offensive speech towards me, i can sense it in your attitude and it will make my life no different so theres no point.
-you havent answered my question, everything you're saying supports the idea that rain should have a stage. ir COULD work, but not with the current plot. so im gonna make u john vogel for a moment and give u a chance to change my mind for me, YOU change the plot to make it fit and il agree:
-who builds rain's stage?
-why did he not take shelter in it or involve himself in it throughout the difficulties in the series?
-and why now would he reside there while he ignored it?
-where is it located?
convince me, because u havent at all so far.
in the words of somebody on this forum.,,
MINION Wrote:
My ideas are creative. You're argument over my point is sensless. Characters in MKDA, & MKA, already have advantages over characters due to their Powerups. So it isn't like it's something new. What good are stronger Characters, if they all got the same Setup as everyone else. I mean look at it. Green Bay play Dallas at their own Stadium. That's and advantage due to fan's cheering and booing the away team. Everything in life has it's Advantages. I think i made my point. Good Day...
Casselman Wrote:
forst of all, the context of your whole statement has nothing to do with my point therefore makes no argument. im talking about the meaning behind stages, not powerups while fighting in them. try to think outside that little box for just a second. although gameplay is very important, story drives games the most. great games can fall with no story. my statements are directed towards rain getting his own stage. asking where it came from, who built it, why has rain been forced to survive if he has this fortress the entire time. why has be been forced to do the things he has done?
and out of nowhere your talking about powerups...
are u feeling ok? or did u maybe read the post wrong?
although powerups MAY seem like a good idea to a select fanbase. a few months after release. you along with many fans would be crying how a high tier character has his own stage and its not fair because he has power and health, and if your not host of a battle, you have no control over the stage.
so if it so happens that quan chi (for your reference purposes) is a highly powered high tier character. and you just happen to be challanged by somebody online that likes quan chi. since he challanges you. he gets to pick the stage. lets say that he picks quan chi, and since he has choice, picks the soul chamber or w.e.
lets now say that your in love with taven for some odd reason. and you want to pick him. you do. but he is not as high tier as quan chi. it is going to take every effort you have to overpower this guy if he knows what hes doing which i assume he does if he has that char and that stage. he then powers up or regains health or something that tilts the odds in his favour. i garuntee you would be one of the first on the forums complaining, not bashing you directly. but i know how you react to losing online since u stopped talking to be one for grabbing in a battle once. lol.
again nothing personal and i dont like to disagree with people. but its just another thing people will comaplain about. and i stand by my opinion of the stage/story reference. the team has enough tow orry about to make a good game as it is without working on stuff that is not an essential in the final product of a make or break for the series.
-Casselman
MINION Wrote:
Look at Quan Chi. he said in MKDA. his powers grew weaker when he was trapped by Scorpion, in the Netherealm. That was an advantage due to Scorpion being in his homeworld and Quan not able to house his energy. Another example, is Quan Chi's inner Sanctum chamber. Let's say, you're using Quan in MK8 in his level, and if he get's down in health, he should be able to absorb some energy from his sanctum. To fill his bar for say. Instead of the Taunt or w/e. or, for a powerup. Where he increases in size. Rain could get electricity from the sky in his stage to make it more Damaging. Instead of just powering up.
So like MKDA, Let's say Nitara's blood spit does 8, with the powerup it does 15. That's what im getting at. The more energy the kombatant get's from they're own element. The more health they can take from you're life bar.
Casselman Wrote:
as we have talked about minion, these stages have to do with the story.
kahns arena is his place in outworld where kintaro reigns supreme, kind of like an mma octagon of outworld. and his throne in the background shows he is heavily involved with it. he is also the boss and it was the final stage of mk2, it had to be something to do with the boss.
onaga took outoworld by storm, and transformed that area into his lair where he would keep the wood be kamidogu. its his home in outworld. also where the army was being held. so why move it all? he chose to have it tehre because of its significance. and he, again, was the final boss, so he wouldnt travel elsewhere for the final battle.
these are all intertwined with the story, im not against rain getting his own stage cuz hes an awsome character, but i feel if he had his own stage, it wouldnt go with the story, rain has been sort of worshiper/rogue throughout the whole series, he has not come into any power or become any point of athority, so it wouldnt make sense for him to all of a sudden to have a stage. who built it? where did it come from? why is it there?
rain's story, although not insanely farmillaiar with me, puts him on the outskirts of life and he uses his cunning as well as worship to survive, he has not been a dominant force to be feared as much as saho kahn, onaga, shinnok or the deadly alliance.
it could happen, but not without rain coming into power through frther story development. if it did, it wouldnt make sense.
-Casselman
as we have talked about minion, these stages have to do with the story.
kahns arena is his place in outworld where kintaro reigns supreme, kind of like an mma octagon of outworld. and his throne in the background shows he is heavily involved with it. he is also the boss and it was the final stage of mk2, it had to be something to do with the boss.
onaga took outoworld by storm, and transformed that area into his lair where he would keep the wood be kamidogu. its his home in outworld. also where the army was being held. so why move it all? he chose to have it tehre because of its significance. and he, again, was the final boss, so he wouldnt travel elsewhere for the final battle.
these are all intertwined with the story, im not against rain getting his own stage cuz hes an awsome character, but i feel if he had his own stage, it wouldnt go with the story, rain has been sort of worshiper/rogue throughout the whole series, he has not come into any power or become any point of athority, so it wouldnt make sense for him to all of a sudden to have a stage. who built it? where did it come from? why is it there?
rain's story, although not insanely farmillaiar with me, puts him on the outskirts of life and he uses his cunning as well as worship to survive, he has not been a dominant force to be feared as much as saho kahn, onaga, shinnok or the deadly alliance.
it could happen, but not without rain coming into power through frther story development. if it did, it wouldnt make sense.
-Casselman
Look at Quan Chi. he said in MKDA. his powers grew weaker when he was trapped by Scorpion, in the Netherealm. That was an advantage due to Scorpion being in his homeworld and Quan not able to house his energy. Another example, is Quan Chi's inner Sanctum chamber. Let's say, you're using Quan in MK8 in his level, and if he get's down in health, he should be able to absorb some energy from his sanctum. To fill his bar for say. Instead of the Taunt or w/e. or, for a powerup. Where he increases in size. Rain could get electricity from the sky in his stage to make it more Damaging. Instead of just powering up.
So like MKDA, Let's say Nitara's blood spit does 8, with the powerup it does 15. That's what im getting at. The more energy the kombatant get's from they're own element. The more health they can take from you're life bar.
forst of all, the context of your whole statement has nothing to do with my point therefore makes no argument. im talking about the meaning behind stages, not powerups while fighting in them. try to think outside that little box for just a second. although gameplay is very important, story drives games the most. great games can fall with no story. my statements are directed towards rain getting his own stage. asking where it came from, who built it, why has rain been forced to survive if he has this fortress the entire time. why has be been forced to do the things he has done?
and out of nowhere your talking about powerups...
are u feeling ok? or did u maybe read the post wrong?
although powerups MAY seem like a good idea to a select fanbase. a few months after release. you along with many fans would be crying how a high tier character has his own stage and its not fair because he has power and health, and if your not host of a battle, you have no control over the stage.
so if it so happens that quan chi (for your reference purposes) is a highly powered high tier character. and you just happen to be challanged by somebody online that likes quan chi. since he challanges you. he gets to pick the stage. lets say that he picks quan chi, and since he has choice, picks the soul chamber or w.e.
lets now say that your in love with taven for some odd reason. and you want to pick him. you do. but he is not as high tier as quan chi. it is going to take every effort you have to overpower this guy if he knows what hes doing which i assume he does if he has that char and that stage. he then powers up or regains health or something that tilts the odds in his favour. i garuntee you would be one of the first on the forums complaining, not bashing you directly. but i know how you react to losing online since u stopped talking to be one for grabbing in a battle once. lol.
again nothing personal and i dont like to disagree with people. but its just another thing people will comaplain about. and i stand by my opinion of the stage/story reference. the team has enough tow orry about to make a good game as it is without working on stuff that is not an essential in the final product of a make or break for the series.
-Casselman
My ideas are creative. You're argument over my point is sensless. Characters in MKDA, & MKA, already have advantages over characters due to their Powerups. So it isn't like it's something new. What good are stronger Characters, if they all got the same Setup as everyone else. I mean look at it. Green Bay play Dallas at their own Stadium. That's and advantage due to fan's cheering and booing the away team. Everything in life has it's Advantages. I think i made my point. Good Day...
i understand your comaprison to the football but im saying its bad for gameplay and would be too much for people who wanna cry over it.
im not saying anything degrading to your ideas, yea they are creative. but as your ideas are yin, there will be yang to them. everybody on this site has there own opinion and just because i express mine doesnt mean u have to take it personally.
i said many times, im not bashign anybody. just conveying my opinion.
bottom line
-rain stage in mk has no point without further plot development and contributes to your fanboyism
-your ideas are creative, just not applied in the best interest of an in depth fighting game imo.
-there was no point that you feel you have made, you want characters to have powerups. bottom line, which IN MY OPINION (which is totally valid and allowed) is a stupid idea, again, NOT CALLING YOU STUPID so stop with the offensive speech towards me, i can sense it in your attitude and it will make my life no different so theres no point.
-you havent answered my question, everything you're saying supports the idea that rain should have a stage. ir COULD work, but not with the current plot. so im gonna make u john vogel for a moment and give u a chance to change my mind for me, YOU change the plot to make it fit and il agree:
-who builds rain's stage?
-why did he not take shelter in it or involve himself in it throughout the difficulties in the series?
-and why now would he reside there while he ignored it?
-where is it located?
convince me, because u havent at all so far.
in the words of somebody on this forum.,,
MINION Wrote:
I think i made my point. Good Day...
I think i made my point. Good Day...
If the actual creative idea around this concept hasn't made sense yet. From the many times i explained examples. It never will. I tried to give you examples. Maybe you're looking at it one sided. Idk, but i did try.
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