@ all moderators and the staff (about the final secret)
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posted04/18/2003 10:58 AM (UTC)by
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Hinkebein
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I don't know if there's even a possibility of getting an answer to this thread, I just wanted to give it a chance. Everybody knows the stories about the final secret that went on here during the last weeks. I just want to know (and I ask that for many others), is there even a secret left in MK:DA? Is there a chance of getting the staff to ask a relyable source from Midway (like the Ed Boon on the version code thing) about the final secret? I mean, everybody is talking about it all the time and it starts not being fun anymore. All these rumours, theories and lies are just getting anoying and cause a lot of trouble here. To get me right, I'm not asking about how to get any secret that's still left in MK:DA, I just want to get sure if there's even something left that nobody found out yet. Regarding all the things that have been posted here yet (also the version code), is there even a last secret? Or did people just get Midway wrong to overrate the situation now? Please post any kind of relyable or "official" statement on that, to clear things up a bit. Thank you.
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outworlddaywalker
04/16/2003 05:15 PM (UTC)
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Yes, Darque Bishop it would be cool if you could post in here all of the info you have gotten from your sources, good thread in my opinion dude.

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04/16/2003 05:57 PM (UTC)
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I already found an answer to this thread in an old reply:
DArqueBishop Wrote:
According to our source, the version code is the final secret. You guys have NO idea how much I wish I could tell you who our source is. The problem is, said source has requested anonymity. He/she/it is in the same position as Ray: if he/she/it were to be named, he/she/it would get in a LOT of trouble, even possibly losing her/her/its job. It is for that reason that our source has requested anonymity, and I am going to honor said request. It kills me to do so, because like I said, we know this source and know its absolutely reliable. However, I refuse to go back on my agreement to keep it quiet.

I'm sorry you guys don't believe us. Please understand when I say I wouldn't have posted that information without making sure it was from a source we considered 100% reliable. It does us no good to be posted information that we do not consider accurate, as it makes us look unreliable in the long run. If someone can DISPROVE the version code secret, then by all means we'll retract our story. But until then, our official position is that the version code is the final secret.

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04/16/2003 06:04 PM (UTC)
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Didn't Boon say that the version code wasn't really meant to be found? On fight night, someone( I forget who exactly), said there was still one thing we had not found in the game. I hope whoever it was wasn't implying it was the version kode, because if it was never meant to be found, why tell us?
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D'Arque Bishop
04/16/2003 06:09 PM (UTC)
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~Crow~ Wrote:
Didn't Boon say that the version code wasn't really meant to be found? On fight night, someone( I forget who exactly), said there was still one thing we had not found in the game. I hope whoever it was wasn't implying it was the version kode, because if it was never meant to be found, why tell us?


It was Paulo Garcia who said that there was one thing left to be found. Ed said that the version code wasn't meant to be discovered, but he and Paulo might not have been on the same page that evening. Perhaps Paulo thought the fans would have found it eventually and decided to mention that at Fight Night. Frankly, all I can do is speculate on that right now because I don't know for sure either way.

I still personally believe the version code is the final secret, but if anyone can confirm there is in fact another secret, we'll be more than happy to report it.

Hope this helps...
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04/16/2003 06:14 PM (UTC)
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What about contacting Midway to finally get an official and 100% relyable answer, so that there are no questions left?
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D'Arque Bishop
04/16/2003 06:43 PM (UTC)
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Hinkebein Wrote:
What about contacting Midway to finally get an official and 100% relyable answer, so that there are no questions left?


*shrug* I would if I thought I would get an answer out of them, but I honestly don't see them answering this question. The most they would probably tell me is if there's a final secret, but not what it is. Either way, we'd probably not learn anything more than we already know.

Hope this helps...
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MrSchpfmut
04/16/2003 06:56 PM (UTC)
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I'm sorry but all of these comments have been brought up in the past and have gotten the same answers by mods and other users. I don't see why we need to keep beating a horse that just won't die....
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04/16/2003 08:28 PM (UTC)
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I believe it's: BEATING A DEAD HORSE

So "beating a horse that doesn't die" isn't really correct wink
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04/16/2003 11:07 PM (UTC)
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vergiß es einfach ... glasses
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MrSchpfmut
04/17/2003 12:03 AM (UTC)
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I said that because the topic should be a dead issue (cuz peeps keep asking the same ?s)and keeps coming back to these threads (hence the horse not being dead).
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eugenicz
04/17/2003 05:30 AM (UTC)
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Nice thread. As for contacting Midway and asking for answers about the final secret, well I already did that. I wrote to them, literally begging them for at least a hint, and this is what I got:

Thank you for contacting Midway Games. I would love to give you the
answer, but the game developers are highly secretive about these things
and they have yet to pass the info on to us. When and if they do, it
will be posted online.

Claire Moore
Customer Service Manager
Midway Games


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04/17/2003 08:18 AM (UTC)
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If the version code is the "final secret", who cares?! What is the big deal about a version code, you can't do anything with it. It pops up on the screen, you go "Wow, look at that," and it's over. Yay! And if this is the "final" secret, what were the previous secrets? confused
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04/17/2003 08:47 AM (UTC)
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Cheesy.
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JohnnyCage5
04/17/2003 03:15 PM (UTC)
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What is a version code?
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eugenicz
04/17/2003 04:02 PM (UTC)
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Oh and one other thing. A "secret", or whatever, in the conventional sense, as far as videogames are concerned, is supposed to be something (when accessed) that affects gameplay performance. This could be in the form of a cheat, or something, which has to do with the game (unlimited lives, ammo, turn off this, turn on that, etc).
I just don't see this "version code" thing worth being called "a secret". It doesn't do anything for the game. Nothing!
They should have just saved everyone the trouble, made this 'version code' available as of right, and told us straight that there were no more secrets. Saves a lot of people a lot of problems and false hopes, unnecessary anger and fake threads.
Perhaps Ed Boon shares the same definition of what amounts to a "secret". Maybe that's why he said that the code was never intended to be discovered.
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MacIX
04/17/2003 06:48 PM (UTC)
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AMEN BRUTHA!!! :)
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thrakatak
04/18/2003 04:26 AM (UTC)
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As usual, so soon we forget what secrets _used_ to be. Atari 2600 Adventure, anyone? All we got was the programmer's name, and we _liked_ it. What about finishing Street Fighter without losing a round so you could see the extra Capcom group picture at the end? Is _that_ a secret?

So spoiled we were with MK & MK2. They used up a lot of good ideas there.
What would happen if we had a good, full-featured game where everything just unlocked over time? Would it stink 'cause we had no secrets?
(I'm not saying we have that, just asking the question.)
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eugenicz
04/18/2003 06:37 AM (UTC)
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Atari's days are as good as over. Those days, 'secrets' weren't a big deal. Atari's old. Street fighter too. We're talking about the next generation consoles here. Today, practically every game has a secret to it, or a "cheat", for want of a better term.
This whole thing about a last secret, and the fuss about it, is understandable. 'Curiousity' is second nature to man (and women)! It cannot be denied.
If I were to tell you "not to go into that room", you may comply. But if I told you "not to go into that room because we are hiding something important in there", do you think you'd do what I say? Hell no! In Disney's Beauty and the Beast, when Belle was told not to enter the westwing because it was "forbidden", did she listen? Thing is, would you have? Oh come on, be honest!
The whole fuss about stage fatalities and all, is because of the pictures and statements made in the stuff you unlock from the krypt. Stuff like "the loser would be sprayed with the 4 acid buddhas surrounding the arena" and "the loser would be sacrificed to the sea dragon", depicts interest, and of course curiousity! The same goes with the drummer and the "tie" thing. Of course things like these are just going to get people worked up even more, because you just hinted something and people wanna see it!
On the onther hand, if nothing was ever mentioned, if no info was stated about the acid bath, or the lung hai temple or the drum arena, do you think people would be bothered about stage fatalities? No! Do you think people will still be starting threads asking about stage fatalities or ways to fight the drummer? No!
The same goes for the version code thing. It was best if no one ever found out about it, and that was probably Midway's policy anyway (and Ed Boon confirmed this). Now, everyone wants to know if it's true, and if it's the last secret. The threads speak volumes. It's the only thing on everyone's minds. But if no one knew about it, there would be peace.
Maybe we were spoiled by MKs 1 and 2. But in this day and age, we move forward, not back. So obviously, people are going to want to expect more, and more. It's human nature.
As for Midway using up a lot of good ideas in the early games, I beg to differ. There were stuff that were in MK 1 and 2 that were never seen again, like the hints that were displayed in MK1, and the question mark icon on the arcade mode of MK2. Midway could use these again, and nobody would get bored. They could use these tricks again, just change the outlook a bit, and no one would notice it's an old trick.
The fatalities are old, but no one's bored with them. The stage fatalities were old, they were removed and most people (if not everybody) misses them!

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thrakatak
04/18/2003 10:58 AM (UTC)
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Perhaps silence would have been better, at least for all the people beating their heads against the wall.

As far as the secret in Adventure, perhaps you've forgotten that game "secrets" were noexistent at that time. It _was_ a big deal then.

You did bring up some very good points. Midway had several things that they could have used again with no injury to its fan basse. Random select is a good option to have on the character select menu, even more so on a home version. And hints? I'll take a hint.

The other thing I was going to say was that sometimes more isn't better. Sometimes different is better. More got to be a bit much with MKT and MvC2. With that many characters, it got a little crazy. So maybe, we needed some new things in the game instead of 4 fatalaties per character and two hidden menus.

No, I don't think a version code is really what we needed. tongue Yes, I think it's a lame last secret. Yes, I also think if there is another "last" secret, it will also be lame.
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