Anyone else worried about Konquest mode?
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posted09/27/2004 06:29 PM (UTC)by
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Klaus
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09/08/2004 05:50 PM (UTC)
My fears seem to have come true, at least according to the latest MK:D review - Konquest is bland and basic.
Now I know that we shouldn't expect the world from something they just threw together for the hell of it. They have to leave something for MK7 to improve upon. But the majority of secrets are found within Konquest. If Konquest is, in itself, a terrible game, then won't finding the secrets become tiresome?
I would hate to put away MK:D and not be able to find all of the secrets because Konquest is unplayable. That would suck.
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azazis
09/26/2004 02:58 PM (UTC)
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I'm not worried about it. You could see from the screenies that it would be pretty bland. I mean Quake 1 has a better landscape. There seems to be no landscape at all in Konquest. All = flatground. :x thats a shame
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09/26/2004 03:02 PM (UTC)
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No. So far MK: Deception's Konquest looks like fun. You get to travel around 7 diff worlds, meet all characters in MK history, and learn about what he,she, or what they have to do with the storyline. The only thing that I fear about Konquest mode is that I don't want it to be like this(btw this isnt a real example)
Lets just say for example this: Lets just say that you find Sub-Zero. Then he asks you to find a sword. That is it in terms of talking to him. Once you do he just gives you a key to unlock something. I would hate that. I what information just as deep as MK: DA's Konquest mode. I don't care much about the voice acting as long as things are interesting.
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queve
09/26/2004 03:03 PM (UTC)
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Im not worried at all.
For an "extra" game, it looks amazing and fun.
I will enjoy it. grin
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psyclobex
09/26/2004 03:10 PM (UTC)
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Im more worried about the fighting engine i just hope it isnt the exact same as da i know it looks like they didnt change all they added to it was combobreakers.The thing that bothers me is Boon said himself at e3 gamespot interview that he thought the combos in da where to high wtf? i just hope you can turn off the breakers.
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09/26/2004 03:13 PM (UTC)
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im really looking foward to it
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09/26/2004 04:49 PM (UTC)
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It's prolly gonna be easy as hell. You will prolly be able to run through it in a day or 2
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09/26/2004 05:06 PM (UTC)
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WTF a day or two, sorry noobie, it doesnt go like that, Boon already said you wont meet ALL the fighters through your first time playing konquest and to get those superunlockables, dammit it might take till next year to find them, i mean the final secret in MK3 wasnt even in stratedgy guides, and MK2 fighting noob and ping pong werent discovered in a long ass time, some people even say MKDA has a final secret which i really wouldnt care.
KOnquest mode is gonna take forever and thats what makes this game good, the konquest in MKDA didnt even take a day or two, are you stupid?
It took a long ass time to complete and u didnt even have to travel in that konquest in MKDA, you have to do that same stuff in this one fight people learn peoples moves, do extra side things, meet people, you can rest and make the time fly liek you can hit a meditate button and go from DAY 3 to DAY 5 in seconds, but u would have missed lets say reptile in day 4 and you would have to beat the game and then start over just to get him in DAY 4, plus you can learn special moves from any fighter you meet BOON said, so if you met shao khan(who i think will be extremely hard to find) you can learn his shoulder rush.
man konquest is the BEST thing about the game, and the gameplay of the fighting tyles changed he didnt just add combo breakers.
watch the video where scorpion grabs subzero and starts punching his stomach, that is his hapkido fighting style, then look at the DEADPOOL deathtrap video which is new, with scorpion fighting subzero, he does like a huge combo, the combos look way bigger in this game i seen kenshis combo and scorpions new combo and they are badass.
ALSO the only reason why he added combo breakers is because he is going back to MK3 roots with the combos, the combos are BIG ass hell in this game and we need some combos breakers or else we are done for. Before talking about the gameplay and combos watch the trailers before u talk.
Just click download, left click to download and right click to save target as and there goes your 3 second download, go watch it konquest is gonna be fun it shows the people and there army, i seen kanos army, DK army, i seen baraka's race the tartakans whatever they are called, i seen hotoru looking guards, it looks cool, plus it talks about the events BEFORE MK1 yup it talks about all the events in the MK comics and before MK1 all the way through mk1,2,3,4,MKDA, and all the way up to MK:D, the game kicks ass.
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09/26/2004 05:23 PM (UTC)
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Subzero5543 wrote ALSO the only reason why he added combo breakers is because he is going back to MK3 roots with the combos, the combos are BIG ass hell in this game and we need some combos breakers or else we are done for. Before talking about the gameplay and combos watch the trailers before u talk.
First of all the fighting engine is way different then mk3 for starters the run button isnt in i know alot of people hated it because they didnt know how to use it.And the combos do look big but there actually not look at the vids the damage percentage is low as hell i think the highest one i seen was 30 or something this is basically the same exact engine as da and dont tell me its faster or improved because its not. I mean from just looking the vids you cant even see a difference people are just saying its faster because they want to believe it but its not everyone will see when it comes out its a shame. But the game looks great though i just wish they focus more on the fighting then the minigames.
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09/26/2004 05:26 PM (UTC)
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When it comes to konquest mode, it's hard not to tell a book by its cover. Konquest mode looks bland. The graphics are early PS2 at best, and it looks from the videos like there will be a decent amount of fetch quests. We've heard Boon talk this mode up, but we've heard him talk things up before and have them not be as great as he said. I remember when he talked up the "weapons system" before MK4 came out. Wow, talk about basic.
But, for all of the surface negatives that seem to be apparent (notice how I said seem, we don't know how konquest will look or play yet on our home TV), there are a lot of positives as well. Again, if Boon delivers on his promises. The idea of meeting characters from MK's past, learning their moves from them, and choosing what styles you would like make for some really fun customization options. You want Reptiles force ball? Ya gotta find him. I just wish I knew how that whole thing worked. We've seen screenshots of Reptile circa MK2. Is there also a Reptile from MK4 or MK:DA in the game. Since they all have different moves and look different.
I think there is still a lot we don't know about this mode. So to pan it for what it looks or seems like it will be is being very premature in my opinion. Play it for a couple hours, get into it. If it bores you after a few days, then it's not for you, or it's just not that good. But give it a chance. Am I worried? A little. I have a feeling that this mode will be attacked in some reviews as the big weak point in the game. Still, I don't think it'll be bad. We'll just have to wait and see!
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09/26/2004 05:28 PM (UTC)
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I saw in one Konquest video Shijunko (sp) was talking to Shang Stung about the first MK tourney. What if you could do something to help Shang with tourney and then be able to witness the battles which took place in MK1. That would be sweet.
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09/26/2004 05:29 PM (UTC)
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Klaus, you said that your fears have come true because of the latest MK:D review. What review are you talking about and where is it??
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09/26/2004 05:36 PM (UTC)
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Hi!
What was mk3's final secret?
unlocking smoke?
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CMETH
09/26/2004 05:54 PM (UTC)
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I think it will be fine. I wasn't expecting Konquest to have superb graphics considering it is only a side game. All the graphic power was used for the main fighting game levels, fatalties and characters.
As for the size of it, I have no cocern about that either since it will be big.
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09/26/2004 05:58 PM (UTC)
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When I first heard about conquest I got annoyed. I have to complete some half assed adventure mode to unlock my goodies. This opinion still stands. Its not even half assed...its 1/4 assed since there are 4 modes of play.
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09/26/2004 06:15 PM (UTC)
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I'm not saying anything untill I actually play it. Konquest looks like fun, you roam all of the realms and get a feel for them. I always wondered what Outworld would look like if you walked through it. Meeting people in this game is an awsome idea too. I 'll play it and then come back to this thread.
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Shikon
09/26/2004 06:22 PM (UTC)
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i totally agree with the guy above me ^_^
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09/26/2004 07:50 PM (UTC)
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Subzero5543 Wrote:
WTF a day or two, sorry noobie, it doesnt go like that, Boon already said you wont meet ALL the fighters through your first time playing konquest and to get those superunlockables, dammit it might take till next year to find them, i mean the final secret in MK3 wasnt even in stratedgy guides, and MK2 fighting noob and ping pong werent discovered in a long ass time, some people even say MKDA has a final secret which i really wouldnt care.

I agree that you will not find everything the first time through, but with 31 visits, you don't really have the right to call him a noob.
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09/26/2004 10:35 PM (UTC)
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To me Konquest mode is simply a means to an end - that end being of course unlocking all of the unlockables. Once that's done I'll probably never want to play it again.
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09/26/2004 10:44 PM (UTC)
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GrinningEvilDeath Wrote:
To me Konquest mode is simply a means to an end - that end being of course unlocking all of the unlockables. Once that's done I'll probably never want to play it again.

Why WOULD you play it again, if it's over? You think they'd actually give you all the unlockable things in the first few realms? That'd be utter stupidity. I bet that the super-unlockables they're talking about are in the last realm (which is probably outworld but i'm not sure) so you'd have to get through it all first. And plus, you gotta get through it all to unlock Shujinko anyway.
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09/26/2004 10:45 PM (UTC)
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despite the problems with Konquest mode, I'll have no less fun playing it simply because the things that were put down in the review I posted were just things that came along with Konquest.
The graphics and voice acting are important to how a person gives a crap about the people they're playing as/against but it's not any concern to be thinking it will be crap.
At the end of the day Konquest looks to be a Adventure/RPG, and that's what I'll play it as, I've seen lots of PS1 quality graphics and voice acting RPG's that have been popular and have done well, and with the aspect of unlocking secrets, meeting characters and such, the graphics and voice acting will only be a problem if you take that much notice to it.
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Bigmamanasty
09/26/2004 10:54 PM (UTC)
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Well, considering that the last two MK adventure games were shite, what were you guys expecting?
I think it definitely looks a lot better than Mythologies or Special Forces IMO.
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09/26/2004 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Mayn I will smack da fuckin shit out u son. Mah bad mah whole life don't revolve around a fuckin game, u loser, no pussy gettin, get da teeth smacked out ya head mutha fucka. And for the record, I beat Konquest in DA in 2 days, ya no life havin jack-ass, excuse me Im bout to go get some pussy, have a nice time jackin off on the toilet ya fuckin ghost
Getting pussy from your mom doesn't count ok buddy.
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Mayn I will smack da fuckin shit out u son. Mah bad mah whole life don't revolve around a fuckin game, u loser, no pussy gettin, get da teeth smacked out ya head mutha fucka. And for the record, I beat Konquest in DA in 2 days, ya no life havin jack-ass, excuse me Im bout to go get some pussy, have a nice time jackin off on the toilet ya fuckin ghost

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09/26/2004 11:30 PM (UTC)
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Subzero5543 Wrote:
WTF a day or two, sorry noobie, it doesnt go like that, Boon already said you wont meet ALL the fighters through your first time playing konquest and to get those superunlockables, dammit it might take till next year to find them, i mean the final secret in MK3 wasnt even in stratedgy guides, and MK2 fighting noob and ping pong werent discovered in a long ass time, some people even say MKDA has a final secret which i really wouldnt care.
KOnquest mode is gonna take forever and thats what makes this game good, the konquest in MKDA didnt even take a day or two, are you stupid?
It took a long ass time to complete and u didnt even have to travel in that konquest in MKDA, you have to do that same stuff in this one fight people learn peoples moves, do extra side things, meet people, you can rest and make the time fly liek you can hit a meditate button and go from DAY 3 to DAY 5 in seconds, but u would have missed lets say reptile in day 4 and you would have to beat the game and then start over just to get him in DAY 4, plus you can learn special moves from any fighter you meet BOON said, so if you met shao khan(who i think will be extremely hard to find) you can learn his shoulder rush.
man konquest is the BEST thing about the game, and the gameplay of the fighting tyles changed he didnt just add combo breakers.
watch the video where scorpion grabs subzero and starts punching his stomach, that is his hapkido fighting style, then look at the DEADPOOL deathtrap video which is new, with scorpion fighting subzero, he does like a huge combo, the combos look way bigger in this game i seen kenshis combo and scorpions new combo and they are badass.
ALSO the only reason why he added combo breakers is because he is going back to MK3 roots with the combos, the combos are BIG ass hell in this game and we need some combos breakers or else we are done for. Before talking about the gameplay and combos watch the trailers before u talk.
Just click download, left click to download and right click to save target as and there goes your 3 second download, go watch it konquest is gonna be fun it shows the people and there army, i seen kanos army, DK army, i seen baraka's race the tartakans whatever they are called, i seen hotoru looking guards, it looks cool, plus it talks about the events BEFORE MK1 yup it talks about all the events in the MK comics and before MK1 all the way through mk1,2,3,4,MKDA, and all the way up to MK:D, the game kicks ass.

I'm sorry Noobie (you only have 33 DPs and your calling him a noobie??), If it were to take a year or more that wouldn't make it good, that would just take way to long to get a picture or test video, it wouldn't be worth playing for.
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