Your thread is somewhat confusing. To answer your title, you can get shujinkos speical moves in any order, any time after completing konquest. To answer what you wrote in the post, he's tough, i'v found a lot of small combos do the trick, and if you can squeeze in a few "cheap" moves as well, it works...Just keep trying, there really no advise anyone can give you to make you play better.

what do you mean?...i faught scorpion/monster after netherrealm but i never faught him at the end of konquest....is that what u ment?....or am i missing something?...and u can use them whenever u want...i think

wait, ignore my first post, I think I misread your post. Perhaps you could clairfy, what exactly you mean?

Sorry---- that's @ the part when he says my quest can't be completed until I defeat him for the last Kamidogu.

if your talking about shujinko doing u can't get them until u beat scorpion in the nexus to end konquest mode. After u beat konquest mode, , then u can into the diff realms and find the moves.