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posted01/12/2009 03:35 AM (UTC)by
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MKCORERYU
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11/14/2008 03:55 AM (UTC)
I'd have to say I hate facing Sub Zero, Scorpian and Liu Kang players more than others. Anyone else?
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travm013
12/26/2008 09:12 PM (UTC)
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Flash
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JayboH
12/26/2008 09:24 PM (UTC)
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When playing GL I really hate Scorpion the most. GL doesn't have a ton of tools to help with tpers.
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sonicherosfan1
12/27/2008 02:07 AM (UTC)
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Flash,Jax and oddly enough Wonder Woman.Everyone else I don't mind facing.
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JadedReign
12/27/2008 02:17 AM (UTC)
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Flash, Raiden, and Scorpion players who spam the teleport punch. Everyone else is alright.
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brinkie69
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12/27/2008 03:51 AM (UTC)
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JadedReign Wrote:
Flash, Raiden, and Scorpion players who spam the teleport punch. Everyone else is alright.



Yep, and add Deathstroke to the list b/c people spam the hell out of his sword. I pretty much won't play against people online who use Scorp, Flash, Raiden, or Deathstroke. I don't care if I get better against them or not b/c 80% of the people who use them spam.
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ShingoEX
12/27/2008 04:11 AM (UTC)
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As far as Flash's and scorpion's teleport spam, just duck. It'll whiff and they'll be wide open. Do that a couple of times and they'll either have to mix up the strategy, or lose.
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JadedReign
12/27/2008 06:24 AM (UTC)
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brinkie69 Wrote:
Yep, and add Deathstroke to the list b/c people spam the hell out of his sword. I pretty much won't play against people online who use Scorp, Flash, Raiden, or Deathstroke. I don't care if I get better against them or not b/c 80% of the people who use them spam.


I forgot about that. Deathstroke users are relatively rare, but so many of them love to spam back+2 or that back+1 popup.
ShingoEX Wrote:
As far as Flash's and scorpion's teleport spam, just duck. It'll whiff and they'll be wide open. Do that a couple of times and they'll either have to mix up the strategy, or lose.

Oh there are ways to get around them, sure, they're just annoying as hell.
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JayboH
12/27/2008 07:36 AM (UTC)
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That's the problem with Scorpion, you can't duck in anticipation - as soon as you do, it's the unblockable flame move.

...at least, online. He's the one character I have consistent problems with online while playing GL.
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Icebaby
12/27/2008 04:23 PM (UTC)
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So many "Who do you hate" threads in here, can we have at least "who do you love?" kind of thread?

Anyways, I don't like going up against Wonder Woman. Very cheap for me in the hardest mode.
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DrZoidberg
12/27/2008 08:04 PM (UTC)
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Flash but I pwn them easily.
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h1tm0nl33
12/27/2008 08:15 PM (UTC)
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deatstroke and captain marvel
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shazeem1
12/28/2008 04:41 AM (UTC)
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JayboH Wrote:
That's the problem with Scorpion, you can't duck in anticipation - as soon as you do, it's the unblockable flame move.

...at least, online. He's the one character I have consistent problems with online while playing GL.


You have to be joking, if people use his moves the right way, how is that spamming. If you constantly block I would use the unblockable flame move.

Oh, as for GL, 99% of the people I played on line spam his power ring moves, no combos what so ever. There maybe about 10 good players online(PS3) with GL, and the only one I have played and lost to is VashD15.

If you want to play, My PS3 name is
KINGSHAZ33m ch me, I hang out in Gotham and Metropolis lobbys.wow
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JayboH
12/28/2008 05:34 AM (UTC)
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360 player here, and I never used the word 'spam.' I combo as much as you can with GL especially after a grab.
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ShingoEX
12/28/2008 06:03 PM (UTC)
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Scorpion's hellfire is quite abusable. I think it really should be blockable like the older versions...either that, or have a faster startup so people can actually see it coming.
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ShingoEX
12/28/2008 11:56 PM (UTC)
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Also, ground pounds, to avoid unnecessary frustration, should be like the old games. Charge a button for a few seconds, then release. That's one way to avoid its abuse, since you'll need time to charge it back up.
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mkdfan
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12/31/2008 04:29 PM (UTC)
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Liu Kang with his bloomin bicycle kick and The Flash with his speed moves that always stop you mid flow.
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microchip
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01/02/2009 02:09 AM (UTC)
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superman and deathstroke are the only people who really get under my skin.

superman because as soon as the person begins to lose, he whips out the ground pound infinite.

deathstroke because of the cheap sword attacks. not once have i fought a deathstroke player who hasn't spammed the sword.

as for flash, i actually like playing them. to me, the flash is kind of a challenge.
and i've never had a problem with scorpion. most scorpion players are diehards when it comes to patterns.
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DrZoidberg
01/02/2009 04:19 AM (UTC)
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I use Deathstroke and I don't spam his sword.
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b0r4t
01/02/2009 05:22 AM (UTC)
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JayboH Wrote:
That's the problem with Scorpion, you can't duck in anticipation - as soon as you do, it's the unblockable flame move.

...at least, online. He's the one character I have consistent problems with online while playing GL.


you're right. Just the other day I was playing this scorpion player and he was on the other side of the screen so I ducked and held block and I see him put his hands down and I say to myself I could jump and get my free combo but obviously you can't avoid this move so i'll sit here and eat it. Actually I didn't I watched his hands jumped on reaction and then d/b1 114 bb3 113 d/b1 cuz he didn't block :) Glad that bb3 didn't knock down or I wouldn't have been able to get that free combo.

Seriously though you can reaction jump the unblockable and he is so wide open you get a free anything.
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shazeem1
01/02/2009 05:29 AM (UTC)
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Superman, Lex Luther, Batman.

Plain hardcore abusers of the game.

I played this guy called The_Supernatural on the PS3, all he does is missiles, then the jetpack kick then that stupid Lex luther combo, and then when he's losing he spams that unblockable punch that Luther has. I adopted after the first round and whooped The_SuPerNatuRal with Captain Marvel. Then he quit, he was WEAK!

Also, Batman, his back+X kick is just a exploit that almost everyone uses, since it cannot be blocked, its killer in the final moments of close matches. And the smoke bomb when he lands on you, as soon as you attack he's gone and next thing you know he's on top of you.

As for Superman, no doubt there's ways around him, but the power shoulder and ground pound the two most abusive moves in the game in my opinion, if you duck they go to groud pound, if you try and attack they spam his shoulder charge.

Solutions:

Batman= Play him as Subzero and do his icy counter move, Batty's back+X is completely taken outta the game.

Lex Luther= Play him as Captain Marvel or preferably Raiden, they both have quick teleports that gets you out of the way of his missiles and combo, then they can attack quickly with Raiden's torpedo or Captain Marvel's bear hug.

Superman=Basically Captain Marval can beat him anytime if you know how to play, when Superman uses ground pound, jump and teleport, this leaves Superman wide open, then when Superman uses his shoulder charge, stay fully away from him and use Shazam!(Ligthening from above don't know what the move is called).

Hope these help against those pathetic players out there.
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DrZoidberg
01/02/2009 08:41 AM (UTC)
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I HATE Green Lantern spammers!they do the fist grab and then the judgement hammer.
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JayboH
01/02/2009 08:43 AM (UTC)
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b0r4t-

Seriously, get that bug out of your ass. That was taken out of context and you know it.
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b0r4t
01/02/2009 01:00 PM (UTC)
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JayboH Wrote:
b0r4t-

Seriously, get that bug out of your ass. That was taken out of context and you know it.


How was it taken out of context? You're saying you can't avoid the teleport because you have to worry about the unblockable. I'm saying you don't have to worry about the unblockable since it can be jumped on reaction. because you don't have to worry about the unblockable you don't have to worry about the teleport from far away and don't need to worry too much up close unless you throw out moves randomly.

DrZoidberg Wrote:
I HATE Green Lantern spammers!they do the fist grab and then the judgement hammer.


How is it spamming? that would be two moves total. The judgement hammer is a triple hit move so I guess its spamming to do any multiple hit move. Sounds like he's doing one combo and you are complainign about spamming. If you keep getting hit by that one combo you may need to rethink things.

shazeem1 Wrote:
JayboH Wrote:
That's the problem with Scorpion, you can't duck in anticipation - as soon as you do, it's the unblockable flame move.

...at least, online. He's the one character I have consistent problems with online while playing GL.


You have to be joking, if people use his moves the right way, how is that spamming. If you constantly block I would use the unblockable flame move.

Oh, as for GL, 99% of the people I played on line spam his power ring moves, no combos what so ever. There maybe about 10 good players online(PS3) with GL, and the only one I have played and lost to is VashD15.

If you want to play, My PS3 name is
KINGSHAZ33m ch me, I hang out in Gotham and Metropolis lobbys.wow


If you're being spammed by his special moves then you're keeping your distance. Up close the specials have limited use. If you're keeping your distance why wouldn't somebody spam his special moves? You expect them to run at you and eat a combo? Lantern is one of the best keep away characters on the game and one of the best pitbulls on the game. If your opponenet is staying away generally its better to keep your distance and force them to come to you. Lantern generally has an edge in fireball fights because of d/b 2 comboing for 21%.

shazeem1 Wrote:
Superman, Lex Luther, Batman.

Plain hardcore abusers of the game.

I played this guy called The_Supernatural on the PS3, all he does is missiles, then the jetpack kick then that stupid Lex luther combo, and then when he's losing he spams that unblockable punch that Luther has. I adopted after the first round and whooped The_SuPerNatuRal with Captain Marvel. Then he quit, he was WEAK!

Also, Batman, his back+X kick is just a exploit that almost everyone uses, since it cannot be blocked, its killer in the final moments of close matches. And the smoke bomb when he lands on you, as soon as you attack he's gone and next thing you know he's on top of you.

As for Superman, no doubt there's ways around him, but the power shoulder and ground pound the two most abusive moves in the game in my opinion, if you duck they go to groud pound, if you try and attack they spam his shoulder charge.

Solutions:

Batman= Play him as Subzero and do his icy counter move, Batty's back+X is completely taken outta the game.

Lex Luther= Play him as Captain Marvel or preferably Raiden, they both have quick teleports that gets you out of the way of his missiles and combo, then they can attack quickly with Raiden's torpedo or Captain Marvel's bear hug.

Superman=Basically Captain Marval can beat him anytime if you know how to play, when Superman uses ground pound, jump and teleport, this leaves Superman wide open, then when Superman uses his shoulder charge, stay fully away from him and use Shazam!(Ligthening from above don't know what the move is called).

Hope these help against those pathetic players out there.


First off luthor doesn't have an unblockable punch. Second he's one of the worst characters on the game. Its not hard to get around his basic keep away strategy. He doesn't even do that very well. If you have problems with that you will never beat a top jax player.

Batman's back 3 can be blocked low. it doesn't even offer frame advantage on hit. Its short range. Its not a very good move.

The smokebomb is probably the worst teleport in the game. you can bait it easy and punish with a combo of your choice.


LOL @ superman. FF4 leaves superman open unless the connection is horrid you can get a free combo if you block it. If you think that ff4 and dd4 are a 50/50 then you need to take the time to practice more. dd4 has HUGE startup on it and you can reaction jump to avoid it and the pro version. The ground pound is NOT guaranteed off the shoulder so if they hit with a shoulder and try to ground pound you get a free combo.

Hmmm your solutions are interesting. Batman's back 3 is a true low and should hit sub zero out of icy counter. If you need raiden to take out lex there is a serious problem. Lex is pretty low in the tier list. He really doesn't have much of anything. Why would you need a teleport to counter superman? anybody can jump the ground pound and punish it.

How about real counters to what you're describing-

Luthor-his game revolves around his missle keepaway. if he jumps expect an attack followed by a missle. Some characters can punish if they block the air missle. Ground missle is incredibly slow so you can either jump it or sidestep it. Up close learn to recognize his stomp attack because it hits low and its about the only low you're likely to see. LL is really a free win.

batman-a good batman really isn't going to use the b3 that you're complaining about or the teleport. Batmans game revoles around 1 and 3. He needs to get in to be effective. Once he is in he can do 3 and if it hits hit 1 and juggle. If it doesn't hit he can do another 3 or a 1. if he does 1 it will hit you if you attempt to jump away and if you block it you are at such a frame disadvantage you must block a followup 3. Best thing to do is keep batman away. His projectile isn't that great. The batarang bomb can be annoying but just try to keep an idea where it is planted on the stage and avoid it until he releases it. If he uses the boomerrang then you can advance on him and put him into a 50/50 situation.
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brinkie69
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01/02/2009 08:04 PM (UTC)
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^^^^lol....play against a guy on PS3 with gamer tag Infinite (something I can't remember). His LL is beastly. Probably the best in the game. After you play him you may want to reassess your LL evaluation.
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