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Death and return... enough or lets continue?
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posted12/27/2004 06:11 PM (UTC)byMember Since
02/12/2003 02:38 PM (UTC)
Ok, i'm asking this question because yesterday night, as I thought about that Shao Khan and Goro return in th GC version of MK:D.
It as been said before that in the MK universe death dosn't really mean death.
But now, with the Prince of Shokan returning... the whole Kitana plot do not make sens anymore. It's kinda farfetch that they keep bringing him back over avec over again.
Why not bring another Shokan if they want to exploit the four arm thing.... (Kintaro, Sheeva or a new one) or even our friend Motaro?!
Any thoughts?
It as been said before that in the MK universe death dosn't really mean death.
But now, with the Prince of Shokan returning... the whole Kitana plot do not make sens anymore. It's kinda farfetch that they keep bringing him back over avec over again.
Why not bring another Shokan if they want to exploit the four arm thing.... (Kintaro, Sheeva or a new one) or even our friend Motaro?!
Any thoughts?
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they should bring back kintaro or motaro but it would be kool if goro was a zombie mabee thats wat hes gonna be 
OH GOD, HELL NO! Liu Kang was bad enough (zombie Kang rulez BTW) but we certainly don't need other cliffhangers in the story!
Who are dead and should be considered dead or should never come back: Kai, Kintaro, Motaro, Rain, Stryker, Sheeva, Chameleon, Khameleon, Shinnok, Tanya, Reiko (if he was Khan morphed, than there is no point in him being brought back), and several others i cannot name at this time.
Who are possibly dead, but could make a comeback with a logical explanation: Shujinko, Reptile, Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Mileena, Onaga
Who are dead and should be considered dead or should never come back: Kai, Kintaro, Motaro, Rain, Stryker, Sheeva, Chameleon, Khameleon, Shinnok, Tanya, Reiko (if he was Khan morphed, than there is no point in him being brought back), and several others i cannot name at this time.
Who are possibly dead, but could make a comeback with a logical explanation: Shujinko, Reptile, Shang Tsung, Quan Chi, Mileena, Onaga
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it depends on the person who they are bringing back...for example, im really glad they brought kitana back...It would have made me very angry if she'd stay dead for ever...And its the same thing with other characters....there are many persons who like sonya or johnny cage..and they will be very angry if sonya and johnny wouldnt' come back anymore...but on the other hand, I wouldnt care if a quan chi or a cyrax stay dead....
overall i think its a good thing, the whole ressurecting thing...no one will get disappointed because there's always a chance your favourite character will be ressurected...
overall i think its a good thing, the whole ressurecting thing...no one will get disappointed because there's always a chance your favourite character will be ressurected...
The Death and Return plots will continue as long we asked for old characters to return.
When Midway wants to kill some characters, we asked: " bring them back" and they are back. See MK3 and UMK3.
In MKDA everyone wanted Mileena, Baraka, Kabal. In Deception people miss Sonya, Kitana, Kung Lao...
Personally I think that Mortal Kombat should focus more on Earthrealm warriors. No more Edenia, Outworld, Netherealm. Destroy all the Portals and make a good Shaolin Tournament just for glory.
When Midway wants to kill some characters, we asked: " bring them back" and they are back. See MK3 and UMK3.
In MKDA everyone wanted Mileena, Baraka, Kabal. In Deception people miss Sonya, Kitana, Kung Lao...
Personally I think that Mortal Kombat should focus more on Earthrealm warriors. No more Edenia, Outworld, Netherealm. Destroy all the Portals and make a good Shaolin Tournament just for glory.
OK, nothing bad about old ones coming back, but don't ressurect them!
Say tht they were mortally wounded but survived, but don't give life to the ones, who DIED! that kills the deathly aura of MK away.
A good excample is kabal, who wasn't killed, but wounded.
The example for the wrong idea is that Mileena got killed and then ressurected.
I'm having problem with the actual word RESSURECTION!
Say tht they were mortally wounded but survived, but don't give life to the ones, who DIED! that kills the deathly aura of MK away.
A good excample is kabal, who wasn't killed, but wounded.
The example for the wrong idea is that Mileena got killed and then ressurected.
I'm having problem with the actual word RESSURECTION!
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in the first place they should not kill characters that are popular in mk fan's they should not revive anybody in mk games that is happening when they have no good ideeas for characters.
reviving ideea is bad ideea,we dont need every year a new mk game, take your time Ed boon and create a super mortal kombat!



reviving ideea is bad ideea,we dont need every year a new mk game, take your time Ed boon and create a super mortal kombat!
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Guess im the only one who likes the ressurection thing...I think it has something mysterious...MK-fiting with al its realms and character with super natural powers...
That is becouse the ressurection and revival takes away the meaning of death. there is no point for Mortal Kombat to take place if earths best fighters can come back and fight again Outworld. The war between sides after MK2 and MK3 justifies this a little, but we need to go back tot he tournament idea I think!
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It's weird....
If we follow the Resurection idea...
Why did ShaoKhan had to plot something to resurect Sindel?
And why Scorpion is doomed to live as a specter?
And why do the Kombatanbt perform fatality if the opponents can come back to life all the time?
I know it's a production question. But still... don'T kill people ALL THE TIME to bring them back. I mean, it's ok to find a way to bring them back. But man, Johnny Cage died 2 times, Goro several Time.... verry weird!
If we follow the Resurection idea...
Why did ShaoKhan had to plot something to resurect Sindel?
And why Scorpion is doomed to live as a specter?
And why do the Kombatanbt perform fatality if the opponents can come back to life all the time?
I know it's a production question. But still... don'T kill people ALL THE TIME to bring them back. I mean, it's ok to find a way to bring them back. But man, Johnny Cage died 2 times, Goro several Time.... verry weird!
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.... yes....
And Johnny Cage was killed (probably by a fatality) in a tournement, and Goro was killed, and burried in burning lava.... and yet, theu come back to life!
Mileena too.
And Johnny Cage was killed (probably by a fatality) in a tournement, and Goro was killed, and burried in burning lava.... and yet, theu come back to life!
Mileena too.
Explanation:
1. they may be non-cannon, just adds like in MK trilogy.
2. maybe Havik has to do something in it
3. maybe there's is a trick behind it, like Kitana faking the death of Goro, while the shokan recovers from his wounds. Or something like that.
1. they may be non-cannon, just adds like in MK trilogy.
2. maybe Havik has to do something in it
3. maybe there's is a trick behind it, like Kitana faking the death of Goro, while the shokan recovers from his wounds. Or something like that.


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Im a little hazy on this but is it ONLY Kitana's ending that implies Goro was lowered into Molten Lava?
Or is it said elsewhere that this happened?
Cos if its only in Kitana's endin that he was lowered.....well we all know the Deadly Alliance won MKDA, meaning that Goro was NEVER lowered into Molten Lava @ all..
Anyone who knows for sure, wanna clarify this? Im not so sure you see
Thanks
Or is it said elsewhere that this happened?
Cos if its only in Kitana's endin that he was lowered.....well we all know the Deadly Alliance won MKDA, meaning that Goro was NEVER lowered into Molten Lava @ all..
Anyone who knows for sure, wanna clarify this? Im not so sure you see
Thanks
Hmm, if I remember correctly, Goro was dead before MKDA (intro story, Goros army takes the upper hand, but the prince is killed in kombat).
I think he was lovered into the lava before they actually fought, but yes, you make a point. If Kitana dies before they could do it, then his corpse might as well be intact.
I think he was lovered into the lava before they actually fought, but yes, you make a point. If Kitana dies before they could do it, then his corpse might as well be intact.
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...Why is everyone saying Kitana died?
When did this happen?
Plus, I've double checked, and Sindel actualy died pretty young (I've heard somwere she commited Suicide caus of Khan), so she was RESURECTED on earth.... she was the key to the ocupation of earth by Khan and his minions to claim back his Queen and Eartherealm at the same time.
Also, didn'T Kung Lao died at on point? In MK3 ending I think... but still, it's in his ending, might not happen!
My point by raising this thread is that Midway could stop creating death-ending. Could create twisted one (like the one of Noob in MKD) instead of killing and bringing back, and then killing, and then bringing back....
A good way to clarify the whole thing would be to have a FMV intro in the MK7 game that explain everything.... Exemple: We see the Agency of blade and Jax and we learn what happen to Cyrax, Kenshi and all... then we transport ourself in Edenia where Sindel, Kitana, Jade, Sheeva and the rest prepare for the upcoming evil, telling us what happen to the ones that don't make it to MK7 (i.e. Baraka his with his Tarkata hordes trying to demolish a village...). Everything would be clear and settle. Huge FMV, Oscar-award-Winning performance!!!
Imagine knowing that Kai wonders the street of New-York and has amnesia, explaning why he'S left outside all the time! (I'm just pitching ideas now héhéhé).
When did this happen?
Plus, I've double checked, and Sindel actualy died pretty young (I've heard somwere she commited Suicide caus of Khan), so she was RESURECTED on earth.... she was the key to the ocupation of earth by Khan and his minions to claim back his Queen and Eartherealm at the same time.
Also, didn'T Kung Lao died at on point? In MK3 ending I think... but still, it's in his ending, might not happen!
My point by raising this thread is that Midway could stop creating death-ending. Could create twisted one (like the one of Noob in MKD) instead of killing and bringing back, and then killing, and then bringing back....
A good way to clarify the whole thing would be to have a FMV intro in the MK7 game that explain everything.... Exemple: We see the Agency of blade and Jax and we learn what happen to Cyrax, Kenshi and all... then we transport ourself in Edenia where Sindel, Kitana, Jade, Sheeva and the rest prepare for the upcoming evil, telling us what happen to the ones that don't make it to MK7 (i.e. Baraka his with his Tarkata hordes trying to demolish a village...). Everything would be clear and settle. Huge FMV, Oscar-award-Winning performance!!!
Imagine knowing that Kai wonders the street of New-York and has amnesia, explaning why he'S left outside all the time! (I'm just pitching ideas now héhéhé).
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Kung Lao faked his death so he could live a life of peace.
I thought killing and bringing back Lui was a good idea, the hero sat out for a game, it gave the other characters a sense of grief, and made the deadly alliance seem more.... deadly. then when they brought him back, it gave the hero an interesting twist in his story, gave the other characters a sense of hope, and gave an excellent introduction to whoever the next bad guy is.
the only complaint I have with bringing Lui back is they should have made Spirit Lui either a different playable character, or an alternate costume.
I thought killing and bringing back Lui was a good idea, the hero sat out for a game, it gave the other characters a sense of grief, and made the deadly alliance seem more.... deadly. then when they brought him back, it gave the hero an interesting twist in his story, gave the other characters a sense of hope, and gave an excellent introduction to whoever the next bad guy is.
the only complaint I have with bringing Lui back is they should have made Spirit Lui either a different playable character, or an alternate costume.
Kitana fell by Shang Tsungs hand (or maybe becouse of Quan Chi)
Umm, it is STATED that SINDEL wasn't RESSURECTED but made to be
REBORN on Earth. Perhaps not in a human body, but a possibility is that
her rotting body resurfaced on Earth at some crucial moment, and took the form she previously had.
Umm, and Cage died in MK3/MK trilogy becouse the extermination squads hunted him down.
Umm, it is STATED that SINDEL wasn't RESSURECTED but made to be
REBORN on Earth. Perhaps not in a human body, but a possibility is that
her rotting body resurfaced on Earth at some crucial moment, and took the form she previously had.
Umm, and Cage died in MK3/MK trilogy becouse the extermination squads hunted him down.
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Someone asked when Kitana died.
Kitana, Kung Lao, Sonya, Johnny Cage AND Jax ALL died at the hands of the Deadly Alliance.
I thought the ressurection thing was gettng a bit old, but it depends on the individual character story and overall sotry. If it is relevant to bring them back, then fair enough. But personally, I dont see why they brought Liu Kang back in DA, and also Goro, Johnny Cage, Mileena etc back in previous games. They have not playe dimportant parts in the story. The killing of all the Earth warriors and Kitana was to show the power and threat the Deadly Alliance showed and also how the One Being could do, ie control everything and everyone. (Onaga once Shujinko got him the 6 Kamidogu). Bringing the earthrealm warriors back and Kitana was a necessary plotline ressurection. But previous ones in my opinion werent relevant or important.
But now I think theyre gonna leave the dead characters dead. They are: Kano, Reptile (pressumably), Shang Tsung, Sheeva, Mavado, Frost. We know they are definitely dead, and I think they wont return. Others are presumed dead or missing or unknown.
Kitana, Kung Lao, Sonya, Johnny Cage AND Jax ALL died at the hands of the Deadly Alliance.
I thought the ressurection thing was gettng a bit old, but it depends on the individual character story and overall sotry. If it is relevant to bring them back, then fair enough. But personally, I dont see why they brought Liu Kang back in DA, and also Goro, Johnny Cage, Mileena etc back in previous games. They have not playe dimportant parts in the story. The killing of all the Earth warriors and Kitana was to show the power and threat the Deadly Alliance showed and also how the One Being could do, ie control everything and everyone. (Onaga once Shujinko got him the 6 Kamidogu). Bringing the earthrealm warriors back and Kitana was a necessary plotline ressurection. But previous ones in my opinion werent relevant or important.
But now I think theyre gonna leave the dead characters dead. They are: Kano, Reptile (pressumably), Shang Tsung, Sheeva, Mavado, Frost. We know they are definitely dead, and I think they wont return. Others are presumed dead or missing or unknown.
Hmm, Shang Tsung never died in previous games...HEY...check this out:
If the deadly alliance won at least for a small period of time, and Shang Tsung fought Quan Chi and lost, could it be possible that despite Raidens blast he survived? I mean, Quan Chi seemingly had no power to bring any defensive or evasive action, but Shang Tsung still had the Soulnado at his disposal. (I question Boon, with a power source that big, how could Shang loose, at least in terms of sorcery-in combat Quan may be superior to Tsung at the time of being)
He could have used the entire potential of the Soulnado to protect at least his sorry hide ass and escape into relative safety, where he would lick his wounds. Quan would not be so lucky, at least for now.
We could use stories like theese to bring back characters, not ressurecti-ons! it ties into the story, and it does not involves any kind of handicap for the character returning.
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In MK3 Kano got tossed down from a building. He was ressurected and imprisoned. They could have used the term, that Shao Khan healed rapidly his wounds while he was kept alive by the Shadow Priests magic. there you go.
Johnny Cages soul after the merging of the realms was bounced back into his body, becouse of the sudden interference of Nightwolf/Raiden or both. And Raiden definitely wouldn't had to ask the Elder Gods for bringing Cage back. This is another plotline that could have worked well. Good and original, becouse it would illustrate Nightwolfs powers and supportive role, and it is still better than lame ressurections.
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where they HAD to use ressurections: Liu Kangs return. For one game OK, but please don't make him the no.1 again in Earthrealm!
The revival of the fallen heroes by Onaga. That was indeed needed for. It was dramatic, altough it lost some paint becouse of previous revivals.
If the deadly alliance won at least for a small period of time, and Shang Tsung fought Quan Chi and lost, could it be possible that despite Raidens blast he survived? I mean, Quan Chi seemingly had no power to bring any defensive or evasive action, but Shang Tsung still had the Soulnado at his disposal. (I question Boon, with a power source that big, how could Shang loose, at least in terms of sorcery-in combat Quan may be superior to Tsung at the time of being)
He could have used the entire potential of the Soulnado to protect at least his sorry hide ass and escape into relative safety, where he would lick his wounds. Quan would not be so lucky, at least for now.
We could use stories like theese to bring back characters, not ressurecti-ons! it ties into the story, and it does not involves any kind of handicap for the character returning.
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In MK3 Kano got tossed down from a building. He was ressurected and imprisoned. They could have used the term, that Shao Khan healed rapidly his wounds while he was kept alive by the Shadow Priests magic. there you go.
Johnny Cages soul after the merging of the realms was bounced back into his body, becouse of the sudden interference of Nightwolf/Raiden or both. And Raiden definitely wouldn't had to ask the Elder Gods for bringing Cage back. This is another plotline that could have worked well. Good and original, becouse it would illustrate Nightwolfs powers and supportive role, and it is still better than lame ressurections.
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where they HAD to use ressurections: Liu Kangs return. For one game OK, but please don't make him the no.1 again in Earthrealm!
The revival of the fallen heroes by Onaga. That was indeed needed for. It was dramatic, altough it lost some paint becouse of previous revivals.
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i heard that cage's death in MK3 was just bad writing and that it might not of happened at all. i can't remember where i heard that though. i liked the idea of Liu Kang coming back as a zombie because it could of been something like when Havik ate the heart of Onaga he went to revive Liu Kang but the heart
wasn't fully compatable with Havik so Liu Kang became a zombie instead of coming back to life fully. there was also a pic of Havik over Liu Kang's grave in
the Krypt somewhere.
wasn't fully compatable with Havik so Liu Kang became a zombie instead of coming back to life fully. there was also a pic of Havik over Liu Kang's grave in
the Krypt somewhere.
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....JAx, Cage, Blade Kitana dead?!
Aren't they just under Onaga's spell?????
Aren't they just under Onaga's spell?????

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They really shouldn't bring Goro back he should stay dead, perhaps they could bring an ancestor of Goro, or Goro's son into it instead, something new and exciting, people can still pretend its Goro if they want.. Shao Kahn I am worried about him coming into Gamecube I think he should be dead for this game because he cant be in it the same time as Dragon King it would just be stupid. Maybe next game. And I am also tired of the numerous ressurections. Its the most overused plot elements in it and yes exciting first time, after that, give me a break!
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