You have some valid points, but I have to disagree with you on a couple of things. Yes, Jax and Johnny Cage may have fit the game better though Sub-Zero also has his significance. As for him getting old in terms of age, the same thing can be said for most of the other characters. If you mean getting old as in getting boring, well, I have to disagree, especially with the way Sub-Zero's storyline is evolving while Johnny Cage's storyline hasn't.

I'm kind of surprised as to why you'd say that Smoke would be a better choice than Sub-Zero since Smoke was just there to accompany Sub-Zero while Sub-Zero had more of a story than his friend.

Regarding Scorpion, well, he didn't have too much of a story, but hey, this is MK and with Ed Boon being in charge of things and Scorpion being his favorite character, you would kind of have to see it coming.

Actually, man, I have to apologize. I thought Sub-Zero was an ok selection as a ko-op guy, but not Scorpion. Sub-Zero fit the storyline ok. He and the 3 I meantioned earlier were the ones I thought they should have chosen from, so I have no problem with Sub-Zero, as he was a good and logical choice, storywise.

One other thing... Lord of the Rings: Return of the King had 9 playables, and was a co-op game like Monks is.

Scorpion shall be in so long as Boon has this crazy idea that he's actually an interesting/good character.

Question: Will Scorpion and Sub-Zero be playable right off the bat?

They never said this. They hired a comic expert guy to SEPARATE the canon things of the non-canon things, or the facts of the rumours. The MK: SM's storyline is still the MK2's storyline, few minors things will be retconned or expanded, but the base of the storyline is still the same. And personally, I'm tired to read complaints about storyline before playing the game, because I absolute sure that a big part of them will be responded.

Then you could just, oh... not read them?
Anways, most of the retcons that have happened take place in both the MK II Official Komic and the actual game storylines. So they obviously didn't even have the guy do or, or didn't listen. Liu wasn't at Wu Shi when the attack happened, the komic made it obvious Kung Lao wasn't at MK1. Cage left the set of a movie to go to Outworld, (we'll see, though, maybe this does happen), etc etc, et-freakin-cetera. There are a ton of retcons, and ignoring them is like ignoring the history of anything--no, Washington didn't cross the Delaware, Scooby-Doo did. I know it's only a video game, but if a game can't even stick with it's own history, what does it have? Nothing.
EDIT: I'd love to look at your face when you see that you were blindly defending the team without getting your facts straight. Read this:
.....Lastly, Midway has hired a continuity expert who was several years of experience in the comics industry to go over the story of MK: Shaolin Monks and make sure there are no errors in the storyline. (This may explain why, for instance, that it refers to certain events well known to long-time MK fans, such as Shang Tsung's island crumbling or Baraka's attack on the Shaolin Temple.) While we can't reveal who this person is yet, this should put a lot of fans' minds at ease who are story purists. Enjoy the pics!
And here's the link for the whole article, which was done during E3 by the very guys at MKO: http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/content/News/read.cds?article=573
Eh hem? So, wanna apologize for calling me a liar? I actually remembered where that was written because I knew the retcons would happen. Anyways, I made my point loud and clear.... FATALITY

Mortal Kombat's story is nothing BUT one giant retcon.

It'll eventually get to the point where Johnny Cage never died, he was just in a really bad coma. And Shang Tsung was defeated via a foot stomping on him from the heavens.

First of all, I never called liar, only that you don't understand the motives of the . I apologize if you believe that I called liar, but I don't apologize of my last post, because I still thinking the same.

No storyline errors isn't the same that no storyline retcons. An example of storyline error would be to put things of MK2 Komic (because is non-canon), but not put Kung Lao in the events of the MK1 Tournament (obviously in the form that he appeared in the game). Obviously he made some retcons, like Liu Kang was during the Tarkata's attack, but this isn't a storyline error, because doesn't affect the story. The attack takes place by the same reason, and soon Liu Kang and Kung Lao acts of the same form like MK2. For me, at this point (perhaps after playing the MK: SM my opinion changes) I not see any storyline error..... FRIENDSHIP

Shaun, the thing I was complaining about was that it's just in the intro movie made it look as though Scorpion was getting his ass kicked, I mean at the beginning he punched him and then... that was it it was all Sub-Zero after that. Also can you clarify if it was the older or younger Sub-Zero in the intro. I mean there's no doubt in my mind that it's the older one, but people are just being stubborn and saying it's the younger one.

...friendship again?

"Return of the King had about 9 playables..."


Yes, but Return of the King had only 8 combos for the original 5 players, the extra 4 had the same combos as Sam and Aragorn.
Shaolin Monks will offer alot more depth, despite having less Characters, because the fighting system is deep and there are lots more combos than ROTK.

We'll just have to see about that. You can't say it'll have more dpth until you've actually played it. In fact, I'll bet Monks has a lot of combos carry over from character to character.

Anyway, back to my other argument... I know you didn't actually call me a liar, but when you tell me that Midway didn't say what I said they did, that IS calling me one. And, as it turns out, they DID say what I said, and not what you thought they did. After I actually went out of my way to prove that, you switched your argument from "they never said that, they said this...." to "well, they meant this..." Come on, man. It's right there, plain as day. They lied. The proof is in the text. Then, according to another MKO staff member, they made it "very clear they do not consider the Official Comic cannon." That was at Midway Gamer's Day. So, after telling us they hired the guy to make sure they didn't retcon anything, they completely ignored him, or quit caring, or ran out of time, or whatever. Those are 2 completely different extremes on the same subject. (We DO care about the story and WILL NOT retcon, and we DO care about the story, but WILL retcon to save time and resources) Conclusion: they either don't know what the heck they're doing, in regards to the story, or they don't care.

Maybe, just maybe the comic guy they hired is an idiot and they didn't mean to retcon anything, but they still did. They DID tell us they didn't want to retcon the comic, then they DID change their stance about it at Midway Gamer's Day. Those things don't happen on accident. They were out of time and coped out on it, knowing most of us wouldn't call them on it. And yeah, you'd be hard-pressed to prove otherwise, cause I'm getting all of this straight from the horses mouth. They're acting like politicians, recently.....

Even if they didn't mean to retcon the comic, they certainly shouldn't have retconned the fighter's storylines that were actually IN THE GAME. I'm not trying to make a big deal about this, I was just calling them on it, and they won't respond, cause they already know what they did. But when you tell me I'm wrong, expect an argument, and don't change it because you were mistaken about something. Anyway, let's all enjoy the game, and we'll be sure, Midway, to point out the retcons for you, don't worry.

If John Tobias, father of the MK, ignored the MK2 Official (well, the movies, the Conquest serie & the DotR serie are officials too ) Komic, how you pretended that if Midway hired a comic guy to know what is canon and what is non-canon, considered this comic canon?

tobias ignoring the Mk2 comic? Where the hell did you get that from?

John Tobias wrothe and drew the official Mk1 and MK2 comics. Them deciding not to consider those comics canon is just a stupid excuse to cange Tobias' original story.

In his Oficial Timeline (canon thing) made for the release of MK4 they mentioned the events of the MK1 Official Komic, but not the events of MK2 Official Komic... and in the MK1 Official Komic appeared his signature, but not in the MK2 Official Komic. For me, John Tobias never made the MK2 Official Komic, only the MK1 Official Komic.

It's quite an excellent game.

Exactly.

Just trying to avoid any mention of Tobias is all, just like that Noob-Smoke concept.

Good!

The game's been out for almost half the year... Don't bump threads that are this old.