Me...personally.I love the darkness.IMO the darker and more morbid,the better.

Absolutely.

We need more and more gore and darkness. MKD doesnt even come close to making me feel uncomfterable. MKD is great but it is just starting to tap into the level of Dakrness I want. I want an absolutely Gothic and wonderful display of Death.

I understand you sentiments. But you can always turn the gore off. Many people are "afraid" of dark imagery, because they have been told its wrong. They feel like they are being spiritually "bad" when they watch imagery like that.

However I take an opposite lok at it. Violence and Darkness are a part of the natural cycle of life. When you eat meat you are eating bloody burnt flesh, when you wear leather you are wearing dead skin. When you die, the great creatures of the Earth will pick you apart piece by piece ingesting you, and using their feces made of you, to regenerate the lawn. The lawn will grow, which will feed bugs, which will be eaten by chickens who in turn will be slaughted and cooked and eaten.

The cycle is glorious. It is in no way wrong or eveil. Whoever made the universe set it up that way. I feel people who can responably and safely explore their darksides without harming others are more spiritually developed than those who shelter themselves.

When MKD comes out, play it. Allow your self to feel great from it, and don;t feel guilty. Simply enjoy a great display of death, and realise, your time to be reaped will come. Celebrate death, its as natural as breathing.

seriously, I wander why you didn't name yourself christopher666, its almost as if you worship death...ofcourse death is natural, but celebrate it?

kitana_arsenal Wrote: seriously, I wander why you didn't name yourself christopher666, its almost as if you worship death...ofcourse death is natural, but celebrate it?

Research the numbers 666 and 777 and you'll understand.

Yes Celebrate it.

Celebrate LIfe, Celebrate Death.
Celebrate Happiness, Celebrate Sorrow.

Only a truly balanced person can see the beauty in both sides of life.

When you can cast yourself into the universe, and allow it to take you like a babe in his mothers arms, then you will understand balance.

Death is the essential function in the universe for life to exist.

Fear of Death is like fear of your reflection, or your homecoming.

Worshipping Death is just as much a boon, or heresey as worshipping life.

From your Vantage point, you cling to life, since you are hardwired to. However, that does not mean that it is the exent of truth, it is simply your current linear perspective.

I except people to be uncomfterable about this subject. But it goes in levels.

Some people can;t get a needle. Some laugh at them.

Some people can;t play mortal kombat, it seriously disturbs and saddens them. To them you would probally laught or chastize them. You would at least be confused, and deep down, you would probally think they are slightly weaker, but would never admit it.

Sopme people cannot handle the natural cycle and embrace all aspects of life, good and Bad. Some celebrate the dark and the Light. They look at those afraid of Celebrating death the same way people who love MK look at those who become sick and upset about it.

Its all about levels. How far can you push your mind ? How far is too Far ? How do you make that determination ? What point of refereance do you use to make that determination ?

In know where my boundry lies and more importantly I know WHY my boundry lies there. Do you ?

kitana_arsenal Wrote: seriously, I wander why you didn't name yourself christopher666, its almost as if you worship death...ofcourse death is natural, but celebrate it?

I was thinking the same thing actually.

I definitely can see where you're coming from (the thread starter i mean, whose username i forget, forgive me), but it has to be done to some degree, because people are faster becoming spiritually desensitized today.

Gore and mythology has always been MK's thing, but within the last 10 years, videogame violence has hit the ceiling as far gore goes. What could be gorier than games like Manhunt? It's all been done before.

That leaves one thing. The mythology. If MK wants to keep up today, it has to provide a side gimmick (mythology) along with it's regular one (extreme violence) because the violence has just been done so many times before, and just like the gore, it has be improved upon and outdo itself to keep the shock factor, and to keep people coming back.

I can only see the storyline becoming more acultic and dark in future games. I think the only way out of the downward spiral is for MK to cheese itself out of it. If it uses enough cheesy and lame tidbits in the process of developing the storyline, it might take away some of the seriousness of the whole thing.

I have to admire you making a thread like this in this forum too. It's like an open invatation for the clowns of this board to say stupid things like "if u dont like it den dont play it dumb dumb!!!", so well done for having the balls.

ecclesiastes Wrote: What I once saw as a great fighting game, is now looking like a comedy death match. This is how I know that it has changed since the early days. I just think that they should stat cutting back a little on the gore, and be a little more moderate, as opposed to over-the-top violence and gore. What do you think?

huh?? mk is known for its nasty gore n over the top violence.. its never been popular for its "deep" gameplay..

Christopher777 Wrote: kitana_arsenal Wrote: seriously, I wander why you didn't name yourself christopher666, its almost as if you worship death...ofcourse death is natural, but celebrate it? Research the numbers 666 and 777 and you'll understand. Yes Celebrate it. Celebrate LIfe, Celebrate Death. Celebrate Happiness, Celebrate Sorrow. Only a truly balanced person can see the beauty in both sides of life. When you can cast yourself into the universe, and allow it to take you like a babe in his mothers arms, then you will understand balance. Death is the essential function in the universe for life to exist. Fear of Death is like fear of your reflection, or your homecoming. Worshipping Death is just as much a boon, or heresey as worshipping life. From your Vantage point, you cling to life, since you are hardwired to. However, that does not mean that it is the exent of truth, it is simply your current linear perspective. I except people to be uncomfterable about this subject. But it goes in levels. Some people can;t get a needle. Some laugh at them. Some people can;t play mortal kombat, it seriously disturbs and saddens them. To them you would probally laught or chastize them. You would at least be confused, and deep down, you would probally think they are slightly weaker, but would never admit it. Sopme people cannot handle the natural cycle and embrace all aspects of life, good and Bad. Some celebrate the dark and the Light. They look at those afraid of Celebrating death the same way people who love MK look at those who become sick and upset about it. Its all about levels. How far can you push your mind ? How far is too Far ? How do you make that determination ? What point of refereance do you use to make that determination ? In know where my boundry lies and more importantly I know WHY my boundry lies there. Do you ?

I do not fear death, I just want to LIVE...and hey, life is too short to think about death all the time

I won't be happy with the morbidity level of MK, until I see- a scantily clad shemale bodybuilder clown, decked out in all black leather and various S&M bondage gear- on the character selection screen. The phrase, "Toilet Paper", would be carved right into his/her farhead for good measure.

Think Voldo from SC, but much much stranger and darker.

I kid, I kid.

I'm probably alone here, but I miss the comical and unrealistic violence of MK3. MK shouldn't take itself too seriously.

If anything mk isnt morbid enough the fatalities arent realistic enough.MK started pushing the limits of violence in video games and now its the 21 century and theres games that are just as morbid or even more like manhunt and gta.Its time for mk to turn heads again.Im very pleased with the hari kari how much do you want you to bet that this game will be blamed for suicide you know the media there always pointed fingers on anything.MKD needs to bring back the shock value and Hari Kari's is a good start.

Persoanlly I think there should be more gore. The original seemed gruesome enough, then MK2 ruined that feeling with friendships and all that shit. I like 1% fantasy with 99% gore

Off-topic: I ain't being eaten by no damned worms. I'm getting cremated.

On-topic: It's not too morbid. It seems about right to me. Any more would be ridiculous and any less would be ridiculed.

I don't think MK has gotten lost in its own violent nature so much as the people who play it and the fanatics who live it.

I mean I'm not really sorry for saying this but a spade is a spade. I read threads on here about how dissatisfied people are about certain fatalities, how they want it done, and how certain things like blood don't meet their expectations.

In my opinion you get the "entertainment" of killing off your opponent in a shock fashion, and thats good enough for me. However people complain and want more and more until you're right MK does trap itself in its own concepts.

So My question is, is that Mortal Kombat's fault? Or are the people who play Mortal Kombat becoming more demandingly morbid?

A franchise is only subject to its buyers

It has to be violent to a certain extent. I has to meet the minimum mk violence, and also surpass the last mk game by just a little. I think it can get WAY more morbid, which its not, and Im glad. In one video, I think its that new gamespy one, Boon says some of the guys have some really good ideas for fatalities and hara kiris, but we turn them down because they are too gross.

The mk violence its VERY unrealistic, therefore not morbid IMO. Animes get much much closer and some even surpass that line, but I dont think mk is there. Not as long as blood looks like jelly and there is a light-hearted feel to it. Seriously, I dont thin mk ever got too serious. Maybe it is because I usually am playing with friends and we are laughing, joking, having close matches and a good time. Do you play alone more or with company?

Way back in the day, the amount of darkness displayed in the original Mortal Kombat was considered far too dark. I think MKD could stand to go even darker, because it's just not shocking anymore.

I think it's the perfect amount of morbidity to be dark, but STILL be MK. MK hasn't had a truly *dark* game since MK2.

MK was exclusively held on Earth; MK3 was sort of a tangle mismatch of stages that tried too hard for the apocolyptic feel and sort of alienated it from the rest of the series; off the top of my head, I can remember maybe five stages from the underwhelming roster of MK4; MKDA had a very nice stage roster, but not quite dark enough. I think House of Pekara and the Acid Bath were a very nice start in that direction, however.

MK one was more traditional. It was violent but not dark or gore.
I still remember the MK2 feel. It was dark, it has his own ambience. Even with the babalities and friendships, MK2 still has is seriousness.
It went downhill with MK3-UMK3-MKT In my own opinion. They lost there touch and MK became a moquerie.
With MK4 and MKDA the dark feel was kinda restored but not like the MK2 days.
MKD might bring this feel again. We'll see.

[Shaokahn] Wrote: Me...personally.I love the darkness.IMO the darker and more morbid,the better.

I'm with you the Darker the Better, if anything I wish Deception could have been darker.

I love the gore and all that, but I like a little mystery in games too. Like the forest in MK2, that was brilliant. I hope they have that in MK:D, if not then that's fine too.

ROTFL@YOU Wrote: I love the gore and all that, but I like a little mystery in games too. Like the forest in MK2, that was brilliant. I hope they have that in MK:D, if not then that's fine too.

I agree with the living forest. For me the best one was The wasteland in MK2 with the impaled corpses! That was great too!

gimme blood gimme pain gimme darkness go insane !

yeah i like morbid and darkness and blood and shit ..

I love MK because of its blood and gore its nothing like other fighting games if it wasnt so bloody and dark it would just be another tekken or virtua fighter and if you want a game like that go out and buy it. more blood in MK7

to me, mk will pass the limit in the day that the characters really seem to be suffering, like those action figures by mcfarlane, the ones called suffer...whatever.

Right now, it's really too unrealistic to make me think "shit! poor guy" and make me close my eyes or think about those deaths after I play the game.

Imo the gore and violence are perfect, not too simple and plain but not too morbid and macabre either

To me MKD is not any darker than MK2 was. Both took place in outworld and that's better than fightng in the Earth realm anyday.

MKD and MK2 own the rest in terms of darkness.

I really don ́t know what morbid means but the darker it is and the more blood is for the better :)