Do you think that the enigma known as Ermac will be revealed in Deception? Cause I think it's about time we know everything about him!

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posted08/19/2004 05:20 AM (UTC)by

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02/17/2003 08:46 PM (UTC)

I've always wondered about Ermac ever since I read his origin. However, isnt it also true that he has multiple origins? Since he's comprised of souls of dead warriors, it would be logical to assert that his mind may be more complex than any other warrior.

I was thinking that if one vessel can contain a multitide of souls that make of one entity, then somewhere within there isn't just one consciousness at work and possibly Ermac should be the most versatile fighter since Shang Tsung.

What I mean is that Shang has the powers from vanquished souls within him.(And why he can't morph into more than just the selectable characters in any game is beyond me)Similarly, but to a lesser amount, Ermac should be as versatile. If the souls that comprise him give him the power he has, then their abilities, in theory, should also be aviliable for him to use.

I wonder if Ermac has a singular movite for fighting in Deception or is it collectivly agreed upon by those that comprise of him. In a sense, every other combatant is fighting for something, their realm, family, power or revenge. But Ermac has no home and no family. If it's to be for power, why? It would be more logical for one that has some origin to seek this. He relatively has none. And if it's for revenge, against who? Is another warrior the former enemy of one or several of the souls in him from a time long ago?

The question of why Ermac would help Kenshi also needs to be answered. He's said to be good, but for what reason? Of course he was tied to Shao Khan, but why leave his masters side? Is there one dominant consciousness that controls the others or are they all steering the ship?

I've noticed that it's been status quo to speculate about Liu Kang's apperance and significance, the un-named sub-boss, this whole "Onaga/Havik/Skab/Destro/Macho Man/Papa Smurf" thing, and other's. But porbably another question that should be asked is the one to a still unresolved mystery that's gone unanswered for too long. Who or what is Ermac? Hopefully in Deception, Ermac will finally have his secrets revealed.

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kodypowell

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•08/18/2004 01:52 PM (UTC) •

So audience what do you think A 10 POPS UP....ANOTHER 10 POPS UP and PICTURE OF A DOUGHNUT POPS UPP hmmm i think they let homer into this one

Hmm i like your theroys they are nice and well elaborated that is good. I also wonder if the souls are his conciousness and that one of them wants revenge so that is why he may have any enemy.....and i agree with other thingss butttt i dont wanna go back and see wat they are im laaaazy

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•08/18/2004 02:55 PM (UTC) •

I think that Ermac has one definite conciousness. I think that all the souls he posseses, are combined into one new mind; Ermac. I mean if he had several different conciouses he would be insane, bc they'd all have different ideas etc. But I do think that in MKD we will find out who Ermac really is.

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•08/18/2004 03:58 PM (UTC) •

I find Ermac as one of the most interesting characters of them all. I've always thought that telekinetic powers were awesome; that's why I like Kenshi so much. Now that the original is back, I'm very happy. Ermac's story intrigues me. I definately think that in Deception, where stories seem to play a huge part of the game, we will find out what Ermac is really all about. Hell, I would just like to see his bio so I know his alignment and his enemies and friends. Ermac is definately the character I'm most excited about. And for some reason I really want to find out about Skab/Havik.

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•08/18/2004 04:30 PM (UTC) •

Ermac could function as a gestalt, an entity made up of lesser entities combined to become exponentially greater than the sum of its component entities.

However it goes, it will be interesting to learn more about the origins of what people now call "classic characters" and back in 1995 called "stupid new characters, where's Scorpion?".

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•08/18/2004 04:32 PM (UTC) •

Kenshi should of never had ermacs moves.I really dont understand why Boon gives new fighters old fighters moves it doesnt make sense heres a few i can think think of. Bo rai cho vomit puke slide pretty much the exact same move from sub-zero in mk2.The one that makes me the most angry is ashrah spinning shield thats kung laos move that stupid female noob raiden clone doesnt deserve that move.Do you think Boon is going to change Kenshi's moves now that ermacs in or will they both have the exact same moves.

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•08/18/2004 04:34 PM (UTC) •

I am hoping they will shed light on Ermacs history, if there really is much of it.

Maybe al those souls have fused together as one within him to form the Ermac we know. In effect their personalites, memories etc will all be a jumbled up mess in ermacs head. Or maybe they have all been destroyed so that he can exist as his own person with his own mind powered by these souls. Which in effect would explain his telekinetic powers. Although he did teach Kenshi, Kenshis telekinetic powers should not be anywhere near as strong as Ermacs. Although, Kenshi has the souls of his ancestors in his sword and maybe those could help him.

Anyway, goos theories man. Nice thread!

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•08/18/2004 04:37 PM (UTC) •

I don't think of him as a person with multiple personalities so much as an emergent personality from the sum of the whole.

mkda???

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•08/18/2004 05:08 PM (UTC) •

Ermac is starting to sound like a math equation.

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•08/18/2004 05:11 PM (UTC) •

I wish all math equations were as cool as Ermac.

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•08/18/2004 05:26 PM (UTC) •

Ermac is by far my favorite ninja. Well, his look, special moves and fatalities and other finishers were terrible, and I didnt really like him, but its his story what really keeps me interested in his character.

I think we will discover a bit more. So far, Im happy with his awesome looks, and Im thinking his story will evolve greatly. What I fear though, is that he will be too similar to Kenshi.

From what I have seen of his powers, Im very disappointed. He took 3 of Kenshis moves.

I KNOW he was the first character to use psychic powers but still, he could had gotten something new and fresh instead of the same specials as Kenshi.

I hope he gets better moves.

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•08/18/2004 05:41 PM (UTC) •

If one follows the "gestalt" (thank you Bezou, I was looking for that word

- been a while since Psych 101...) school of thought in psychology, Ermac isn't much different than us in terms of his personality and consciousness. It describes thousands of thoughts and impulses, adding up to a whole that is uniquely different than the sum of its parts. I would like to know more about his story and history, though.

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•08/18/2004 10:47 PM (UTC) •

GrinningEvilDeath Wrote:
If one follows the "gestalt" (thank you Bezou, I was looking for that word - been a while since Psych 101...) school of thought in psychology, Ermac isn't much different than us in terms of his personality and consciousness. It describes thousands of thoughts and impulses, adding up to a whole that is uniquely different than the sum of its parts.

True, but we're not comprised of a multitude of souls.

However, that is very interesting. In a way it could yield to the possibility that one dominant consciousness controls or is more prominent that the others.

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•08/18/2004 11:01 PM (UTC) •

Maybe Ermac is one of those fighters who you can never be sure about. One minute he could be under the persona of a peace-loving warrior, the next he could be a bloodthirsty barabrian. I'll use a little metaphor to explain it:

The warrior known as Ermac is basically a vessal, nothing more. The souls that make him up are what controls him. And he could be under control of evil souls at the moment, but at any second, the good souls might try to take control. And if they do, then they are in control, and then the evil side would try to take control, it's basically just a spiritual game of tug-a-war.

That would explain why he was working for Shao Khan in MK3, and good in Deception (I'm not saying he is, but it's a strong possibillity). He was under control of souls loyal to Khan during MK3, and after being released by Kenshi (probably), he is under control of the good souls.

Confused? I sure am.

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•08/18/2004 11:07 PM (UTC) •