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MKKitana
08/31/2004 08:32 PM (UTC)
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I dont think Dan was crapping on Sonya. He was just saying that the Special forces stroyline are lameass and suck. its true and even Sonya fans have to admit it. Just because someone is ur favourtie character doesnt mean u have to liek their lameass story. Im a big Kitana fan and I hate the ressurection idea, and am still undecided as to whether its a good idea for Kitana or not. if its nto, I'll be the first to admit it. Come on though Sonya/Jax/Cyrax fans.....enough with the 'oh lets get Kano idea' is good. Its not.
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08/31/2004 08:37 PM (UTC)
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MKKitana Wrote:
I dont think Dan was crapping on Sonya. He was just saying that the Special forces stroyline are lameass and suck. its true and even Sonya fans have to admit it. Just because someone is ur favourtie character doesnt mean u have to liek their lameass story. Im a big Kitana fan and I hate the ressurection idea, and am still undecided as to whether its a good idea for Kitana or not. if its nto, I'll be the first to admit it. Come on though Sonya/Jax/Cyrax fans.....enough with the 'oh lets get Kano idea' is good. Its not.


Like someone said, everytime Kitana is mentioned, Sonya is mentioned to be flamed, by kitana fans.

i know the SF story sucks, I never said I loved the story, but so far, there are worst, and the resurrection ideas are the worst of all.

BTW, the SF stories dont involve Kano like you said, there have been many other things going on such as Hsu hao, mavado, kenshi, cyrax, red dragon, saving earth and fighting side by side with a black dragon.
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08/31/2004 08:47 PM (UTC)
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Well I for one like Sonya too. I admit i dont like her as much Kitana, Sindel or Jade, but she can be a good fighter. It's her storylines which let her down. And Sonya's primarily revolves around Kano and his allies, and its getting old. And ok, so is Kitanas but this is giving her a new lease of life...literally lol.
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08/31/2004 08:54 PM (UTC)
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I don't think Kahn ever brainwashed Kitana.
Shao Kahn raised Kitana since she was a infant. And he raised her to be evil and loyal. He would never had the need to brainwash her.


It is highly possible this happened. Not only does it seems obvious she was brainwashed during her infant life, but it is also stated in the comics, hinted in the games. It’s the second time it happens.


Why would Kahn brainwash Kitana while she was an infant? If she was only a baby she wouldn't remember anything anyway?
On the subject, may I ask why Kahn brainwashing Kitana to make her loyal is more appealling than her being evil because he raised her that way? I ask because it seems like you're more into the idea of Kitana being brainwahsed by Shao Kahn.
I hate the brainwash idea because it dilutes Kitana's motivaton and the tragedy of her life.


And as for the Kitana/Sonya thing, it seems that whenever one is bashed some fans bash the other. I've often seen Kitana threads turn into Sonya-bashing threads and I've seen just as many Sonya threads turn into Kitana-bashing threads.

So far it seems most everyone likes Kitana being evil again, they just hate that she was killed/resurrected, which I agree with. That was stupid and should have been avoided. Sonya's story has been consistently lackluster and it needs to be changed. Can't we just leave it at that?
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08/31/2004 09:18 PM (UTC)
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You know,not to get off topic here, but it kinda seems like Boon and co. want the SF stories to suck. I mean, in my opinion, they could have breathed new life into their stories with the arrival of the Red Dragon, perhaps even an alliance with the Lin Kuei, but instead it seems they decided to just forget the Red dragon exist and scrap the whole idea. Definately not cool.

Back on topic, I believe that Kitana has her soul and is under a spell. I would like to see Sindel's quest to free Kitana from the DKs spell span MKD and MK7, perhaps with the combined might of a returned Lui Kang (her love for him) and Sindel, they could break the spell. As much as I love Sindel, I also think it would be awesome if she died freeing her daughter, from a story perspective at least. Just my 2 cents tho...
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08/31/2004 10:09 PM (UTC)
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Im VERY upset with this whole resurrection crap. Its horrible. Worst story we know about so far. (Sorry Dan or kitana fans)


Thats no surprise coming from you. I like the new direction her story is heading. I dont really care so much about the whole resurrection thing. I think you are over reacting on that one. I guess your just trying to find a way to bash kitana without actually sounding like you are. But anyways. What do you suppose Sonya's story will be if she is even in the game? Probably a lame one. Sonya is the one in need of a new story. Sonya's character itself is great, its just her story that i hate.
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08/31/2004 11:39 PM (UTC)
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lol queve?? r u serious?? i was only pointing out our difference of opinions..

dont get ur panties all wet about it.. have a little fun smile..

tgrant-i live in america freedom of speech.. grin dont get all serious on me too..
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well thats ur opinion.. i think its a good story.. plus we have not seen the middle or finish of it..

every 1 knows that the Special forces stories r the worst ever..
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Im VERY upset with this whole resurrection crap. Its horrible. Worst story we know about so far. (Sorry Dan or kitana fans)



Dan its really lame that everytime something bad is mentioned about Kitana you go and flame Sonya. Is not needed, it was not necesary, so please stop.

To tell you the truth, I think you say you like the story just because its kitana.

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08/31/2004 11:40 PM (UTC)
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As interesting as it may be I don’t think Kitana is evil at all. For starters her MKD bio says “Good” (I know, that doesn’t mean anything yet). What I think is going on is that Kitana has her soul and is just her normal self. (Just imaging what would you do if you found yourself resurrected and surrounded by hostiles). I think she just pretends to be loyal to the Dragon King for now and the first time she gets a change to deceive him she’s the hell out of there.

But if she really is tainted with evil I think it would be very interesting for her future storyline if she would kill Sindel who is trying to rescue her.
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08/31/2004 11:45 PM (UTC)
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Having good as Kitana's allignment doesnt mean she must fight for earth. Look at Li Mei in MK:DA. Her allignment was good, btu she fighting for the Deadly Aliance so was fighting on evil's side.

But I reckon Kitana will probably stay evil for a while and be turned by Sindel/Jade/Liu Kang.
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08/31/2004 11:55 PM (UTC)
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I know, that alignment thing doesn’t mean much yet. Especially in a game called Deception wink But I do hope she will be evil this time. That could really spice thing up for her.
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09/01/2004 02:44 AM (UTC)
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Kitana is probably was brain washed by the DK since he made her come back to life again. So she will probably be save by Sindel or Jade and be good again. However for now she might be Evil.
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09/01/2004 07:51 AM (UTC)
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As interesting as it may be I don’t think Kitana is evil at all. For starters her MKD bio says “Good” (I know, that doesn’t mean anything yet). What I think is going on is that Kitana has her soul and is just her normal self. (Just imaging what would you do if you found yourself resurrected and surrounded by hostiles). I think she just pretends to be loyal to the Dragon King for now and the first time she gets a change to deceive him she’s the hell out of there.

But if she really is tainted with evil I think it would be very interesting for her future storyline if she would kill Sindel who is trying to rescue her.


Great idea! Kitana killing her mother woitanauld be devastating for Kitana. Imagine if her spell ended after dealing the fatal blow. Maybe she'd kill herself too.

If she really is deceiving the Dragon King, then she is gambling quite a bit. She will most likely know of Mileena and Tanya and will try to get those two eliminated. And as for her own deception against the Dragon King, I'm wondering exactly what it is she could do.
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09/01/2004 11:55 AM (UTC)
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I think she'll be saved in the end. I don't, however, think it'll be Liu Kang to do it. As stated above by someone else: I believe it is a task that will fall on Sindel's shoulders, and she will come through. smile
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09/01/2004 02:58 PM (UTC)
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I think Kitana will be saved, but not before she does something unforgivable. Something like killing Sindel or Jade (although I don't want them to die) would be great.
Throughout all the games Kitana has been trying to redeem herself and make up for the terrible things she's done in her past and because of the Dragon king we may see all of Kitana's work destroyed in an instant. I'd love to see where she goes from there...
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09/01/2004 06:53 PM (UTC)
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TomTaz Wrote:
I think she'll be saved in the end. I don't, however, think it'll be Liu Kang to do it. As stated above by someone else: I believe it is a task that will fall on Sindel's shoulders, and she will come through.


Yeah, I guess this will be Sindels task. She'll need all the help she can get! I also believe Kitana will be saved!


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I think Kitana will be saved, but not before she does something unforgivable. Something like killing Sindel or Jade (although I don't want them to die) would be great.
Throughout all the games Kitana has been trying to redeem herself and make up for the terrible things she's done in her past and because of the Dragon king we may see all of Kitana's work destroyed in an instant. I'd love to see where she goes from there...


I agree with all you just said and it will be interesting to see how her story is carried out. I think we will all end up shocked someone along the line. Kitana could prove to be one of the more deadly and interesting characters now in the Deception.
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09/01/2004 08:33 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Im VERY upset with this whole resurrection crap. Its horrible. Worst story we know about so far. (Sorry Dan or kitana fans)


Thats no surprise coming from you. I like the new direction her story is heading. I dont really care so much about the whole resurrection thing. I think you are over reacting on that one. I guess your just trying to find a way to bash kitana without actually sounding like you are. But anyways. What do you suppose Sonya's story will be if she is even in the game? Probably a lame one. Sonya is the one in need of a new story. Sonya's character itself is great, its just her story that i hate.


You disappoint me ..a lot.

First, I can easily remember how much you loved Sonya, “everything” about her. (Why did you even mention her? This whole thread was not about her)

And second, if you like to think I’m bashing Kitana, do so, but since you are free to point that out, let me tell you this, you only say you like her story and don’t care about the resurrection because she is Kitana.

Yes, Sonya does need a story revamp, I never said she didn’t or that she had the best story, but just like her, many other characters need a new twist. So far, there is nothing new about Kitanas story.

Yes, I like it that she is evil again, it seems cool. But the whole concept is ruined and reduced to crap with the “resurrection”.

If Sonya got killed and resurrected with no real purpose and in a so unnecessary way, I would admit it. I wouldn’t say “I think its cool” just cause she is my fave.
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09/02/2004 04:42 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:

buterbals113085 Wrote:
queve Wrote:
Im VERY upset with this whole resurrection crap. Its horrible. Worst story we know about so far. (Sorry Dan or kitana fans)


Thats no surprise coming from you. I like the new direction her story is heading. I dont really care so much about the whole resurrection thing. I think you are over reacting on that one. I guess your just trying to find a way to bash kitana without actually sounding like you are. But anyways. What do you suppose Sonya's story will be if she is even in the game? Probably a lame one. Sonya is the one in need of a new story. Sonya's character itself is great, its just her story that i hate.

You disappoint me ..a lot.

First, I can easily remember how much you loved Sonya, “everything” about her. (Why did you even mention her? This whole thread was not about her)

And second, if you like to think I’m bashing Kitana, do so, but since you are free to point that out, let me tell you this, you only say you like her story and don’t care about the resurrection because she is Kitana.

Yes, Sonya does need a story revamp, I never said she didn’t or that she had the best story, but just like her, many other characters need a new twist. So far, there is nothing new about Kitanas story.

Yes, I like it that she is evil again, it seems cool. But the whole concept is ruined and reduced to crap with the “resurrection”.

If Sonya got killed and resurrected with no real purpose and in a so unnecessary way, I would admit it. I wouldn’t say “I think its cool” just cause she is my fave.


I have to agree with you Queve. The ressurection was a step in the wrong direction. I'm sure the Dragon King could have corrupted Kitanas mind with her alive.

Even so, the story is still a good one and has allowed for a nice change in Kitanas story. I just hope the continuation doesn't involve any overused ideas.
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