Blind Kenshi's special moves are "Telekinetic Slam" "Telekinetic Push" and "Telekinetic Throw"

Ermac's special moves are "Telekinetic Slam" "Nova Blast" and "Teleport Punch" (as of MKT)

Ermacs second fatality in MKT was the uppercut that knocked the opponents head off. It was kind of cheesy because Johnny cage had the exact fatality. I'm anxious to know what they will do with Kenshi and Ermac. We now have 2 people that have teleknetic powers, i wouldve liked it if they only put 1 of the 2 in MK6.

Maybe one of ermacs teleknetic move could be that he breaks one of your limbs, kinda like a bone breaker. I also want ermacs plasma blast back, that move ownz0rz.

Do you think they will have new fatalities?

of course they will. I just wonder what they're gonna do with both of them, considering they're both going to have the same powers now. Maybe Ermac will be a secret character that's a semi-clone of Kenshi.

Why would Ermac be a secret character... If we know that he's there?

Besides, They only share one special move between the two of them. And that's another thing... Kenshi is the clone of Ermac!

GraveDigger Wrote: Why would Ermac be a secret character... If we know that he's there? Besides, They only share one special move between the two of them. And that's another thing... Kenshi is the clone of Ermac!

They don't just share one move. Because of their telekinetic powers, they can do whatever the other can do.

I just hope they don't mimic each others Fatalities!

GraveDigger Wrote: Why would Ermac be a secret character... If we know that he's there? Besides, They only share one special move between the two of them. And that's another thing... Kenshi is the clone of Ermac!

Yeah, and we also knew of the existence of Blowze and Mokrap before the game was out too. I wouldn't put it past the MK team to show a shot of a character that isn't immediately playable. And yes, I know Kenshi is a clone of Ermac, since Ermac came first, but im saying IN-GAME, Ermac may end up being a Kenshi clone, unless they totally revamp him. Ermac hasn't been in MK since Trilogy, hence if he has any moves similar to Kenshi in MKD, he'd be a Kenshi clone.

Yeah, if i see any thing similar between Ermac and kenshi (moves), then so help me god, i will freak out.

They need to give ermac special moves that are different from kenshi...far different.

They could bring back Ermacs plasma blast (the green ball in MKT).

For a teleknetic move, Ermac could probably break one of your limbs like a bone crusher, or he could choke slam you with his mind.

I don't understand this. Everyone seems to love Human Smoke (don't ask me why) when basically he was just a carbon copy of Scorpion, same moves and all. Then everyone goes crazy over Frost, despite being more or less the female version of Sub-Zero. Now everyone is against having both Ermac and Kenshi in the same game?

Why? Everyone's been dying to get Smoke in the game when he's just a half-assed Scorpion and Frost turned out to be a DA fan favorite despite being a Sub-Zero clone. If we can have both Frost and Sub in Deadly Alliance, why can't we have Kenshi and Ermac in Deception?

ATLEAST Frost is female, has different ice powers, and has a different personality. Her side is unknown yet also.

Also, if smoke was to return, he wouldnt have the same moves as scorpion. He could return cyborg and have his own arsenal of moves. He could even return half human and half cyborg, with some cyborg moves and human moves. Trust me, and if he were to return FULL human, they would NOT give him the same moves as scorpion. He would have different combos, styles, and techniques.

You see, Ermac was the original teleknetic man. ONE could say Kenshi is a Ermac rip-off. Ermac was the first man of teleknesis, and now kenshi is. Despite this, i still like kenshi, but having 2 teleknetic guys in a game seems a lil weird to me.

HOWEVER, it will be all good as long as there special moves are totally different.

Different ice powers? You mean the same ground freeze that Sub-Zero had in MK II? Kenshi's teleknetic powers can be just as different as Ermac's teleknetic powers in the same way that Frost's ice skills were as different from Sub-Zero's. And whoever said Kenshi and Ermac had the same personality?

And Smoke's always been a half-assed Scorpion clone, even in Mortal Kombat 3, he even had the same basic spear movie (just in a different form). You know that when (and if) Smoke appears in Deception and doesn't get his version of Scorpion's spear/teleport everyone's just going to be pissed because Smoke won't have any of 'his' classic moves. ;)

At any rate, two teleknetics isn't so less lame than having two ice elemental characters or featuring Scorpion and Smoke in the same game.
One that thing, Kenshi being a non-ninja character and Ermac being a ninja character is just as big a separation as Frost being a female ninja character and Sub-Zero being a male ninja character. Even if Frost was female, she was still a ninja like Sub-Zero, which made her seem even lamer by comparison. Kenshi and Ermac may both be males, but at least they don't both belong to the ninja family.

Umm, that wasnt the same ground freeze as subzeros in part 2. Subzeros ground freeze only made you slip for a while, whereas, frosts made you freeze, and it lasted a tad longer.

Give me some examples of special moves on how Kenshi's and Ermacs teleknetic powers will be different. It maybe possible, but its sure hard to think of, especially now that kenshi has the teleknetic slam, and 2 other GREAT teleknetic moves.

Plus, having ice skilled specials is easier to think of than teleknetic specials. Look at how easy it was for frosts moves to be different than subzeros. I just HOPE kenshi's and ermacs specials will be totally different and that theres no resemblence between the 2. Atleast ermac should have his plasma blast back.

I'm thinking at the time when kenshi freed ermac, ermac was probably a bit more to the good side, if not neutral. We'll have to see what happens now that this is deception.

Smoke had the same spear as a cyborg, but it looked totally different, and smoke was totally different. That was probably the only move that was portrayed as scorpions from the past.

Now, why would we be pissed off if smoke doesnt have his classic scorpion moves? I think the majority of people would be pissed off if smoke DID have scorpions moves again, which of course, will not happen anymore.

I know that Sub-Zero's made you slip in MK II, but the point that Frost freezing the ground wasn't exactly anything new. That, and her special was still exactly the same as Sub-Zero's: it freezes your opponent. I mean just look at their names: FROST and SUB-ZERO. Look at their outfits: BLUE and BLACK. They were both NINJAS. Look at their skills: THE ABILITY TO FREEZE. Frost's Fatality was a variation of Sub-Zero's from MK II were he froze you than upper-cutted you.

My point is that if it's okay to have Frost and Sub-Zero, who are essentially the same character outside the story line, in a game, why not Kenshi and Ermac? On paper they're just as similar as Frost/Sub. At least story line wise Kenshi and Ermac come from different backgrounds entirely, which can't truthfully be said about Frost and Sub-Zero since they're both in the same ninja klan.

Let's say Ermac had the ability to make you float in the air and slam you on the ground. Then say Kenshi could levitate you and fling you on the walls back and forth. That's about as different as Sub-Zero throwing a ball of ice at you and Frost blasting the ground. It's the same outcome regardless, just like Ermac and Kenshi.

As for Smoke, he has no trademark moves of his own. They are all Scorpion's moves. Plenty of people enjoyed playing as Smoke, especially at the MK 3 arcade. Should Smoke come back, they're going to have to make up a list of skills of his own. A lot of people that enjoyed playing as him might be upset because he lacks the skills he used to have. I don't think Smoke got so popular because he was gray and had smoke coming out of him. He's arguably one of the most popular playable characters in MK3/UMK3 and I think a lot of that to do with the fact that he was fun to play with.

Dark_No0B Wrote: ATLEAST Frost is female, has different ice powers, and has a different personality. Her side is unknown yet also. Also, if smoke was to return, he wouldnt have the same moves as scorpion. He could return cyborg and have his own arsenal of moves. He could even return half human and half cyborg, with some cyborg moves and human moves. Trust me, and if he were to return FULL human, they would NOT give him the same moves as scorpion. He would have different combos, styles, and techniques. You see, Ermac was the original teleknetic man. ONE could say Kenshi is a Ermac rip-off. Ermac was the first man of teleknesis, and now kenshi is. Despite this, i still like kenshi, but having 2 teleknetic guys in a game seems a lil weird to me. HOWEVER, it will be all good as long as there special moves are totally different.

You see though, that's not what he said. He said that Smoke had the SAME EXACT moves as Scorpion in MKT, but everyone loved him. Why? Why would someone be so stupid to say Smoke is better than Scorpion? He's the same thing. So if Ermac comes back, and has one move like Kenshi, the world will end? It said that returning characters will have all there old moves plus more. So Ermac will have the Telekenetic slam, as will Kenshi. Are you angry now? I don't see why Smoke can be the same thing as Scorpion, but grey, but Ermac and Kenshi can't have one God damn move alike. Doesn't make sense.

Ermac will play entirley differently than kenshi. If he weren't then they wouldnt be giving him so much detail and a spot in the trailer.

Ermac and Kenshi can be in the game together. Both will obviously have different special moves and styles, making them two different characters.