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02/14/2006 06:50 PM (UTC)
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oh yeah gg's gerchap
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02/14/2006 06:59 PM (UTC)
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Saleen, First off... When I beat you, you landed that huge BRC combo a few times. Believe it or not, this is still a 50/50 game and after playing you over and over, I did start to see some of your repetitive patterns. I don't lag, I have roadrunner. Ask anyone here (That doesn't have connection problems on a regular basis) if they lag when they play Killer B. You said to ask anyone about my lag? LOL... I've never seen anyone complaing about lag from playing me on these boards. Why? I don't have any. There was one point at the end of one of my NW matches where the game was practically over and I did notice it pause for a second. But I was attacking YOU when it happened, not vice versa. You have an excuse for everything man. It's a joke.
Secondly... I don't think I'm good with BRC. I just know that he's a very high tier character and you should be beating me with him. There is nothing that I've said in the past that should make you challenge your Kobra vs. my BRC. I've played BRC probably 18 times in my life. It's not fun to me and if I only cared about winning like you did, I'd probably try to learn all those combos and master him. I just don't want to. So, when I play him I do the basic F3 just to see what I can do with him without any training what so ever. I beat HB twice doing that out of 3 games. So, that's the only reason I said it's so silly to think you have skill because you beat the majority of the people with that guy. If you care only about winning, he's a great choice, and I think everyone here knows that's pretty much all you care about, yet you're still not elite.
You'll Ermac mrror me if I learn Ermac's other styles? Why? I don't see you leaving the staff style with BRC very often. I know the other styles, but there not as effective for me. He's not fast enough in Hua Chan vs. Ashrah and BRC, and he definitely needs a bit of range against your staff.
So you're saying we had lag last time when I beat you, but there was no lag the time prior when you beat me? How uncanny... By the way, can people on these boards watch the tape and tell whether or not there is lag just by seeing the matches?

I know i'm one to talk but don't bother with him, everyone sees and knows what type of competitor he is. BTW I didn't infinite him. :(
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02/14/2006 07:05 PM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
bottom line u started something and i plan on finishing it. i will use bo. and u semi me once, i will pull. we will play by the rules of the mko community , 1 throw and 1 otg per combo.. anything will be considered a semi and pulled on.
or can u not win by those rules, and need ur semis??
funny cause u no dam well u would pull that semi shit on strech or groy.
u did it cause u got ur ass handed to u first 2 games.
as for kobra match, u played clean??? i could tell u alomst got dbl flawlessed u hit me one each rd, u had no offense to play clean that match, u were on the recieveing end off 50/50 beatdown.
dont duck after a dash, and remeber 1 isnt a free throw. and u will save urself lots of energy.
unless u wanna go no rules, which will be gay... but i hav no prob .. like i said i can jutsu pretty well.

Did i not give you props for cobra? Yes I did... Can it, I gave you props man but you just act like a little girl when me or anyone else beats you.
I'm fine with one otg and 1 free throw per combo, what i'm not fine with is repeating that throughout the round. Like I said, You can not beat anyone here on this board without your welfare tactics. I and everyone else will continue to believe this until you show me/us otherwise. Also one more thing I'd like to see from you is a compliment to someone when either I, killer, or anyone beats you. Even if we beat you by your own rules, which I did. This is my last post to you concerning this topic because you're just not getting it and probably will never get it. sleep
Oh and when have I ever done that shit to stretch or anyone else. I play those guys with skill and without your shitty tactics. They play me the same which i truly respect. I don't see stretch doing constant otgs and free throws throughout a round unless we discuss it before. You however DEPEND on it, without it you're just a nerd with a self built controller who has no skills. It's science grin
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02/14/2006 07:14 PM (UTC)
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Why would he compliment us? We only win when there's lag or we infinite him. Bottom line, if he loses, there's a reason, and that reason is never going to be because we're good at MKD. LOL.
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02/14/2006 08:11 PM (UTC)
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did i say u used an infinete?? no u used a partial, i said why not just finish.
thorw unbreakable ss throw unbreakable.. thats how u retaliate cause i free threw u with kobra.. yeah cause there close.
16 % legit free throw
70% broken semi patrial infinte..
post what u want killer, make u u post the 16 in a row u lost also.
3-0
9-0
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u hav roadrunner, big fucking deal.. dont u realize that when one side has lag, it dont mean the other does. how hard is this to understand already.
us people in Ny has the best online service out there. we lag most likely cause ur shiity modems cant keep up.
do an upload test.
check uplaods 270 kb per sec
vers i was told was like 800kb per sec
im running 1500-2800 kb per sex, ur roadrunner crap isnt breaking 1000.
thats where the lag is comming from.
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02/14/2006 08:34 PM (UTC)
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pig is good, u arent.... funny part is take away ur unbreakable axe, and the nightwolf frre throw and what do u have. u dont do any combos. do u even no any.. u dont no different than anyone else, u exploit ur charaters most broken flaws..
emac Axe ,, broken
nightwolf throw broken and his 3 in weapon
ill mirror u with ermac, take away axe and u cant play ermac at all. PURE FACT. u wanna credit on being good, heres ur chance to prove it. u hav played 8000 games with ermac now, if u cant hav a match without the axe out, u hav no skill. 8000 games and u cant learn his 1st stance ( by far his best)
btw how do u do in ermac mirrors vs killapc420 and uwillperish??
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02/14/2006 09:02 PM (UTC)
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red we need to play
one otg and one free throw per combo right?
ill be on tomorrow night
lemme know
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02/14/2006 09:23 PM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
pig is good, u arent.... funny part is take away ur unbreakable axe, and the nightwolf frre throw and what do u have. u dont do any combos. do u even no any.. u dont no different than anyone else, u exploit ur charaters most broken flaws..
emac Axe ,, broken
nightwolf throw broken and his 3 in weapon
ill mirror u with ermac, take away axe and u cant play ermac at all. PURE FACT. u wanna credit on being good, heres ur chance to prove it. u hav played 8000 games with ermac now, if u cant hav a match without the axe out, u hav no skill. 8000 games and u cant learn his 1st stance ( by far his best)
btw how do u do in ermac mirrors vs killapc420 and uwillperish??

Let me get this straight... You use BRC, his F3, free throw, and an 83% or so combo, and you're complaining about my NW and his free throw? LOL! Does anyone else here see anything wrong with this?!? You're almost as brainwashed as HB is nowadays. You're the glitchiest player in the game, and you're still not an elite, and you still lose to Nightwolf and Ermac. I think there's something wrong with that picture when you use the top rated characters in the game. I'm beating you without combos, while you're using nothing but huge combos, some of them off of free throws. You should be thanking your lucky stars I don't know any big ones like that or I'd be beating you even more. This is a complaint of yours?!? You should be happy! I suppose the fact I don't use combos is a glitch? If you're just saying it because you're trying to illustrate how limited of a player I am, that just makes you look sillly after I beat you that way.
If Pig is good, than I'm good. I wasn't saying you said I infinited you. I was repsonding to what he said and showing everyone here that you have different excuses for everyone...
Red, why would I play you Ermac vs. Ermac in a style I don't know that well? I found the axe, which I don't think to be broken, and have used it well. I know a lot of different combos in Hua Chan, but I don't think they are very effective against your broken Bo, your broken Dairou, and your Ashrah who is 10 times faster with her combos. He's not as fast, he has no long range hits, and he'll lose everytime in those situations. So, what is it? The broke characters I use (Against all your clean ones.. LOL) or the lag? You really need to keep one excuse here rather than multiple ones, you're starting to look desperate.
Here's the bottom line, lag is on both sides... If the game is not 100% synchronized, it will break off and disco. If you really think your game is going slower than mine when we play, then I guess when my game is saying FATALITY, we're still fighting on your end huh? Even if you're just claiming skipped frames, that doesn't effect gameplay if it's 100% fine on my end.
I think if I show the video, everyone will see that our game was quite on pace. You just lost dude. If it was lagging so bad, why didn't you quit? It was the same speed it was when you beat me the other day, you just didn't do well this time. Is that even a possibility in your little mind? Doubtful.
Now I will answer your questions... Uwillperish only plays Sub Zero and Scorpion against me nowadays. When he did play Ermac vs Ermac against me, I beat him plenty. If he writes on this board he will attest to that. KillaPC420 is awesome, and the last time we played I killed him Ermac vs Ermac and NW vs. his Ermac. His problem is he tries to get too fancy. Same reason I beat Quik when I beat him too. Just because you can make a 12 hit combo that looks cool that switches from every style, doesn't mean it's as effective. It's not. It's harder to start, it doesn't take off as much damage, it's breakable, and I beat these guys all the time. Ask MKF... Atari 2600's Ermac beats me sometimes, and it's because he pretty much uses him just like I do.
I guess my real other question to you is this... Take away all the free throws in the game, the TS drop, and what do you have? LOL... You do all these things, and you have the nerve to ask me what i'd do without NW's free throw?!?! Wow...
Basically, you do use the glitchiest characters in the game and you still lose to me. You complain and make excuses about this constantly. If I"m not using the Ermac axe, you'll complaing that I use a free throw w/ nightwolf (How can you do that when your entire gameplay is based on free throws...) Dude you're SUCH a hypocrite. It's sick, you need to have your head examined dude. grin
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02/14/2006 09:39 PM (UTC)
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where did i complain, u make it like i dont think bo is broken. unlike mkf i admit a character i use is the 2nd most broken in the game. i stae one that i use.
every guy is broken. besides subby but im sure vers can tell u hes broken in some way or form.
brc is 100% breakable. jinko has a 100% and kabal and 81% there broken also. let me rephrase the throw is the most broken thing in mkd.
i can use about 18-19 guys. i use them vs strech and others. but if u only use to guys, and u hav 8000 games each with them, fuck yea u will get my best 2. is it my fault brc overall has more damaging combos than ermac, NO. lift reaches just as far as f3, so on any missed attack u can land a lift.
so untill u venture too a 3rd guy, i can brc and dai ur ass all day long. and my dai sux .
stating a fact and complaining are 2 different things. its fact u cant use ermacs other stance , in a match. why else would u stay in a weaken stance. u siad way back when i accused u of only using axe, this was over a yr ago. yet still all i see is axe.
u used to make fun of Hb. for f3 throw f3. well what do u do different than Hb??? lift axe lift or throw walk under 50/50 throw or 3. WOW
buddy guess what that is no differnt than f3 throw walk up pause f3 or throw.
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02/14/2006 09:51 PM (UTC)
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i lose games to u, not series, u were down 16 in a row before u won a game. how are u beating be.. u think bo is so hard to beat, as strech, Hb , dave, check how hard bo is to beat. block the f3 and punish. HB was down 0-5 with bo, before i went to dai and lost, and i was kobra n/s and bo.. bo is so beatable if u just no how to beat him.
i wouldnt even rank bo 2 anymore, with freethrows into combos and otgs.
ash , jinko, and a couple others rate right up there with bo.
ermac say u land the whole juggle with the free throw. i am forced 100% to block high cause u recover first, i duck rd over.. after bos unbreakable , i can f3 or throw but u hav to get close to throw, and u can jump away, if they do f3 ur in the air, and dont eat the free throw. stop making bo out like hes unbeatable, and if u lose a game with bo, u suck. bo is beatable by losts of guys.
only time bo should win 9-10 is vs
sindel
kenshi
kira
mileena
and prob sub
and this is with the 1 free throw rule.
i laugh at people who say f3 is cheap. u break the f3, ummmm no free throw no free damge.
if someone was landing 111cs44 with jinko would u let the full combo hit u than break after the free throw??? NO but yet no one breaks the f3. they just cry about the damge after the throw.
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02/14/2006 09:53 PM (UTC)
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where did i complain, u make it like i dont think bo is broken. unlike mkf i admit a character i use is the 2nd most broken in the game. i stae one that i use.
every guy is broken. besides subby but im sure vers can tell u hes broken in some way or form.
brc is 100% breakable. jinko has a 100% and kabal and 81% there broken also. let me rephrase the throw is the most broken thing in mkd.
i can use about 18-19 guys. i use them vs strech and others. but if u only use to guys, and u hav 8000 games each with them, fuck yea u will get my best 2. is it my fault brc overall has more damaging combos than ermac, NO. lift reaches just as far as f3, so on any missed attack u can land a lift.
so untill u venture too a 3rd guy, i can brc and dai ur ass all day long. and my dai sux .
stating a fact and complaining are 2 different things. its fact u cant use ermacs other stance , in a match. why else would u stay in a weaken stance. u siad way back when i accused u of only using axe, this was over a yr ago. yet still all i see is axe.
u used to make fun of Hb. for f3 throw f3. well what do u do different than Hb??? lift axe lift or throw walk under 50/50 throw or 3. WOW
buddy guess what that is no differnt than f3 throw walk up pause f3 or throw.

We've been through the "Ermac vs. BRC" cheese comparison 10 times now. Everyone always agrees with me accept for you. Why? Because you're in denial.
EVEN IFFFFF... And that's a big if, if you did not notice. Even if Ermac's lift reaches as far as BRC's staff, and I think you're wrong there. But for arguments sake, fine... It's just soooo much easier to do the F3 move. You just have to push towards me and 1 button. I have to push the pad 3 different ways and then hit a button after that, and even if I do that when I'm blocking he makes movements that show he's about to do it. It's 100 times more telegraphed than your cheesy staff. So, I'm pretty sure that you can argue until you're blue in the face about this, but I'm pretty sure that anyone with any experience in this game will tell you that the F3 lands about 3 times more per match than a telekentic lift. NOT TO MENTION that Ermac is sitting there staring into space after he misses and allows you to F3 retaliate right away. Correct? If you miss your lightning fast F3 can I automatically get you in a telekenetic lift? Doubtful. These 2 things alone make him wayyyyy better and more efficient and no one can argue that. So, my point isn't that Ermac's lift is not effective, my point is that you shouldn't be losing to him hardly at all if you really are an elite BRC. Everyone here will agree with that I think. You know this paragraph proves that BRC is way more broken than Ermac... These are FACT as you'd say, and that's all there is to it. IF Ermac was as broken as BRC, you'd be using him the way I do. It's not a coincidence that you use the two most broken characters in the game more often than anyone else. Open your eyes Saleen.
Speaking of 3rd guys, I believe it was my Scorpion that beat your BRC in game 5 the other day. :) Maybe you should think before you talk... Now you can tell everyone how it's not fair that I use his sword all the time and how that's cheesier than BRC's staff/ free throw/ 83% combo too. They're all listening and believing...
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02/14/2006 10:08 PM (UTC)
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u cant get a lift before f3 recovers???? i guess u dont get a free spin with kabal either. OK anything u want me to prove wrong..
LOL if u think f1 with scorp the whole match if not a broken move. than im not even gonna waste anymore breathe. ill be online waiting.
u no 2 characters, and zero about what u can and cant do. so u stick to what u no, unbreakable and what ever else u do. and dont bring up any thing on what beats out what, cause u dont hav a clue in that department.
and everytime u get ur d2 blocked and land a lift after before u get punished on ur missed attacked. remember its cause of lag. PURE FACT..
try it offline and see how well it works :)
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02/14/2006 10:59 PM (UTC)
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Hey MKF set up a time wit me to play....from what i understand u dont much like me anymore and i could care less that my truthiness (gotta love colbert) got to u....like i said beat me without a partial and things will go back to the way they were and i will no longer think u are the bitch u appear to be now.....i will give u props....i can play most times this weekend and all night tomorrow night...post below and gimme a time....dont u want to be my friend tongue bwahahahahahahaha
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02/14/2006 11:11 PM (UTC)
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You're saying that if you try to F3 me, and you miss, I can then do the lift and get you every single time as a retaliation? Yeah, I don't know what I'mmmmm talking about. LOL... grin You could F3 again before I could retaliate against that move I bet. At best we'd hit at the same time and you'd go into the air while I got hit by the 2nd F3.
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02/14/2006 11:13 PM (UTC)
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Doohoo, lets play tomorrow.
And KilerB is right. KilerB using Axe or lagging means nothing. Nobody should need Bo to be able to compete with Ermac.
Nobody should need Bo to compete with anybody with the exception of Dairou.
I don't consider anyone who can only play Bo and compete to be a high level player.
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02/14/2006 11:18 PM (UTC)
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Thanks Vers... He's in denial as usual. I don't think I'm necessarily better than him since he knows so much about the game, but I do think if I knew what he knew, I'd be whoopin his butt REAL bad... He kicked my ass 2 times ago and I just came on here and said he did real well and good games. Anytime you beat him it's either lag, or you did something cheesier than he does... He's full of crap and excuses.
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02/14/2006 11:21 PM (UTC)
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u got it vers... what time i will be home by 3 but gimme a couple min to play a few matches i dont want a repeat of what happened sunday night wit thug sad
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02/14/2006 11:45 PM (UTC)
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on bos downward swing of f3, as the staff if comming down and u block, when u take the attack as early as possible ( like with scorps 3) he is not blocking. so yes u can land a lift, just like u can get a free spin with kabal.
but there is a distance factor involved.
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02/15/2006 12:05 AM (UTC)
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When you F3 he takes two quick swings. I don't know what you're talking about and I seriously doubt you can get the lift off after the F3 if you were to F3 a 2nd time.
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02/15/2006 12:29 AM (UTC)
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the f3 is still in recovery, u are lift before the f3 finishers, its hard as hell to til, but its doable. just like kabals spin, trust me i had it done to me on ps2.
so when u face someone like HB where u no f3 is comming its easier to time. take a clock 12 hi point of staff 6 low point on the downward swing u blocking the staff when its at 3 oclock. so that time it takes from 3 to 6, bo cant block.. whatever the frame count is 3-4 frames. so u hav 3-4 frames to loand a lift. i never said it was easy but its doable.
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02/15/2006 01:50 AM (UTC)
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doohoo lol, I don't hate you man??? lol who told you that?
Hate is a strong word.
As for this Red and Kille b thing, what's the deal here, Pig plays red, red says pig infinited, killer plays red, same thing or lag, Red if you plan on doing or saying the same to me, then don't expect a match.wink
I hate it when players accuse me of doing things that I know aren't true when I happen to win, so what is all this fuss about killer and Pig and doohoo a week back, they are all good players.confused
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02/15/2006 04:07 AM (UTC)
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redsaleen02 Wrote:
the f3 is still in recovery, u are lift before the f3 finishers, its hard as hell to til, but its doable. just like kabals spin, trust me i had it done to me on ps2.
so when u face someone like HB where u no f3 is comming its easier to time.
take a clock 12 hi point of staff 6 low point
on the downward swing u blocking the staff when its at 3 oclock.
so that time it takes from 3 to 6, bo cant block.. whatever the frame count is 3-4 frames. so u hav 3-4 frames to loand a lift. i never said it was easy but its doable.

Red do you realize that the Ermac lift is 4 steps? It ain't happening between the the first smack of the BRC F3 and the 2nd part. Kabal's thing is 1 step easier, but I'm sure that's virtually impossible too. You're totally avoiding the point I made with this ridiculous retaliation of BS. You were stating this at first like it was just a retalitaion. That's a VERY HARD retaliation if not impossible. BRC on the other hand has no problem what so ever retaliating against a missed lift. It happens VERY OFTEN too. That was my point from the start and you defend yourself with this little fantasy dream scheme of yours? "Use the Ermac lift after BRC's first F3 smack when it's at 3 O clock?!?" You're reaching soooo far now. It's ridiculous and not even comparable to the opposite situation. HELLLLLO?!?!
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02/15/2006 04:46 AM (UTC)
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kilerb Wrote:
redsaleen02 Wrote:
the f3 is still in recovery, u are lift before the f3 finishers, its hard as hell to til, but its doable. just like kabals spin, trust me i had it done to me on ps2.
so when u face someone like HB where u no f3 is comming its easier to time.
take a clock 12 hi point of staff 6 low point
on the downward swing u blocking the staff when its at 3 oclock.
so that time it takes from 3 to 6, bo cant block.. whatever the frame count is 3-4 frames. so u hav 3-4 frames to loand a lift. i never said it was easy but its doable.

Red do you realize that the Ermac lift is 4 steps? It ain't happening between the the first smack of the BRC F3 and the 2nd part. Kabal's thing is 1 step easier, but I'm sure that's virtually impossible too. You're totally avoiding the point I made with this ridiculous retaliation of BS. You were stating this at first like it was just a retalitaion. That's a VERY HARD retaliation if not impossible. BRC on the other hand has no problem what so ever retaliating against a missed lift. It happens VERY OFTEN too. That was my point from the start and you defend yourself with this little fantasy dream scheme of yours? "Use the Ermac lift after BRC's first F3 smack when it's at 3 O clock?!?" You're reaching soooo far now. It's ridiculous and not even comparable to the opposite situation. HELLLLLO?!?!

While F3 is very safe online, you are able to land Kabal's spin if the player is in your face leaving no room. You should catch him everytime especially if you buffer the spin. If he leaves room, you should walk up for 50/50 because they'll be blocking.
It's pretty hard to get the the lift after a blocked f3, but it's doable if you buffer the move. You should learn how to buffer moves while you're blocking...I find that to work effectively with Ermac.
Either way... Using BO against Ermac will be a tough ass match.
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02/15/2006 04:59 AM (UTC)
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lastnitemistake Wrote:
kilerb Wrote:
redsaleen02 Wrote:
the f3 is still in recovery, u are lift before the f3 finishers, its hard as hell to til, but its doable. just like kabals spin, trust me i had it done to me on ps2.
so when u face someone like HB where u no f3 is comming its easier to time.
take a clock 12 hi point of staff 6 low point
on the downward swing u blocking the staff when its at 3 oclock.
so that time it takes from 3 to 6, bo cant block.. whatever the frame count is 3-4 frames. so u hav 3-4 frames to loand a lift. i never said it was easy but its doable.

Red do you realize that the Ermac lift is 4 steps? It ain't happening between the the first smack of the BRC F3 and the 2nd part. Kabal's thing is 1 step easier, but I'm sure that's virtually impossible too. You're totally avoiding the point I made with this ridiculous retaliation of BS. You were stating this at first like it was just a retalitaion. That's a VERY HARD retaliation if not impossible. BRC on the other hand has no problem what so ever retaliating against a missed lift. It happens VERY OFTEN too. That was my point from the start and you defend yourself with this little fantasy dream scheme of yours? "Use the Ermac lift after BRC's first F3 smack when it's at 3 O clock?!?" You're reaching soooo far now. It's ridiculous and not even comparable to the opposite situation. HELLLLLO?!?!

While F3 is very safe online, you are able to land Kabal's spin if the player is in your face leaving no room. You should catch him everytime especially if you buffer the spin. If he leaves room, you should walk up for 50/50 because they'll be blocking.
It's pretty hard to get the the lift after a blocked f3, but it's doable if you buffer the move. You should learn how to buffer moves while you're blocking...I find that to work effectively with Ermac.
Either way... Using BO against Ermac will be a tough ass match.

hehe, that is why Bo players get dairou or N/S now.You have to fight fire with fire, know what I mean?
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02/15/2006 05:03 AM (UTC)
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n/s is not a problem... u hav to come to me. dariou u guess right, and he eats damage.
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