TemperaryUserName Wrote: EDIT: Also, whoever doubts Konqrr and Queve at this point is either new to the site or a fool. G'night.

Call me a fool, because I doubt Queve has inside sources.

Dude, that picture of smoke is pretty cool.....it just might make me pick up MK:A in the bargain bin.

His fight scene is even better. He is so badass in the movie. Except they give him sektor's missiles. I love what they did with his costume it looks so badass. That's how he should look in MKD.

Wow, how incredibly illogical. So basically you're saying you're allowed to have an opinion that contradicts fact? So is Scorpion's outfit blue if it is in your opinion? No; that just makes you a dumb ass.

Blaze is a part of official Mortal Kombat Canon, making him a "real" character, whether it suits your likes or dislikes.

BringBackReptile Wrote: i believe what i said is that "I" meaning myself don't consider blaze a real character i could give a fuck less who thinks what i was stating my opinion your an idiot for saying its not up to me to decided whos a real character or not i said i don't consider him to be a real char because of the lack of time and effort put in to his fighting styles styles look and storyline he was a halfassed fill in for MK:DA

actually dude blaze is like ermac..a character that fans created.. blaze was in the back ground of the pit 2 in mk2... he is infact a real character in the mk story.if not in mkd he will be a regular in mk7 u'll c....he even has his own story..get a clue guy..geez!!!

BringBackReptile Wrote: i believe what i said is that "I" meaning myself don't consider blaze a real character i could give a fuck less who thinks what i was stating my opinion your an idiot for saying its not up to me to decided whos a real character or not i said i don't consider him to be a real char because of the lack of time and effort put in to his fighting styles styles look and storyline he was a halfassed fill in for MK:DA

I like the ideao of Smoke as a bunch of nano machines. But I think that he will come back as a hybrid of his cyber form and human form.

Okay, first off. Temp is right, Smoke will be something different. Not human. For all you dreamers and shit, Too bad, you're wrong.

Second off, Smoke2789--Human Smoke isn't just a memory, check his UMK3 ending, says he runs off to play with Reptile in the woods. That is a terrible rendition of Smoke and the fight scene is like a good 60 seconds long...Wow, Lemme tell ya.

Next, if you don't believe me, wait, and when I'm right, I'll laugh at all of you wanting your "Cyborg half human" Cyrax Wanna be. For Christ Sakes' Accept he'll be something different..And not what your little dreams are made of.

Ninja_Arts Wrote: Second off, Smoke2789--Human Smoke isn't just a memory, check his UMK3 ending, says he runs off to play with Reptile in the woods.

Pass me some of that dope, would ya? Looks pretty strong. :)

Human Smoke's UMK3 ending - which only appears on the SNES and Genesis versions of the game (he didn't even have an ending in UMK3 arcade), states that he retreats to the living forest in order to master the techniques of Scorpion, Reptile and Sub-Zero. Not to go play with reptile.

Furthermore, this ending has (like Mileena's UMK3 ending where she and Baraka kidnap Sindel and Kitana), been overruled by the MKT ending where it is stated he is non-canon, and only a memory of Cyber-smoke.

MKT > UMK3 for ending info.

And dude, don't put down people for what they want to see. Everyone has a right to dream.

I'm not putting him down. It's like saying that not to get your hopes up, because they'll be crushed. But, When I said he went to go play with Reptile, I was summarizing. That's all.

ninja arts, temp, queve you are right. smoke is smoke.

and aberzx, shut up, i hate idiots like u that say i smoke dope cause i have "inside sources".

nobody said i have inside sources u moron, but i do know enough of al the damn fighters what they will look like where and when konquest takes place, all the comic book MK that will be in konquest, smoke will be smoke dammit get over it.

if he looks like a grey blaze then so be it, his character will die like reptiles did in MKDA.

the reason for him being smoke to to make all the damn ninjas not be palette swaps nomore, and they all arent even ninjas now they will look like there name or look like what they are suppose to.

ermac has his lil ruby crap on his forhead. scorpioon actually looks like the ninja cause he is one, subzero has a new outfit that fits in with his age and makes him look wise and not like a ninja.

i still say noob should be a damn grim reaper 100% so he can look different, cause that black ninja suit is way to palette swap for me and looks stupid. now reptile and smoke will look different as well now. smoke wont have the scorpion spear bu i am very nervous about his look to, but it makes sense, we have enough ninjas and we already have 2 cyborgs, sektor and cyrax , ummm i really dont know how they will make the cyborgs look different, i will be surprized if sektor IS NOT a swap of cyrax, i think they might get away with one swap.

but anyway smoke is not cyborg and i am glad, cyborgs suck.

but i do admit that kabal and cyrax were the best MK fighters in history, but cyrax had the green web and was kick ass in MK3 and kabal kickass in MK3 only.

sektor had to stupid missles that didnt do crap, and smoke had cyraxs bombs only, whihc was really dumb and the spear was another ripoff.

this new look of smoke will give him new moves with his new look and it will be cool, i HOPE.

the new moves will kick ass i already know, but the look????? hope SO

Smoke is gonna be a cloud of smoke in the form of a body. He will have no flesh. Whenever he gets punched the smoke in the area where he was punched just kinda drifts away in a swift motion. He is NOT a cyborg. The cyborg on the select screen is Sektor. Some of Smoke's special moves are the teleport uppercut and the smoke projectile. In the teleport uppercut he becomes a bunch of wavy smoke and dissapears then the wavy smoke reappears right in front of the opponent and takes the form of a body and he uppercuts the opponent. In the smoke projectile he throws a ball of smoke at the opponent and the opponent starts coughing and becomes vulnerable to attack for a few seconds.(all this info is not confirmed it is simply speculation but it is very probable this could happen)

i just hope that he comes back as a robot with no human parts i hated the robocop look of cyrax in mkda also if he is the best of the cyberninjas he should look a lot better than the other two, also i hope that the cloud thing is a joke.

Shadaloo Wrote: ...Human Smoke's UMK3 ending - which only appears on the SNES and Genesis versions of the game (he didn't even have an ending in UMK3 arcade)...

Actually he did have his UMK3 ending in the arcade version, I snapshoted it and copied in word-for-word when I created him for Mugen.

As for Smoke's new look, I expect anything. If he's made of smoke I'm guessing he'll look nothing like blaze. Instead he'll bear a vague resemblence to his human form but be all grey, transpartent, and probably have some fancy "made from smoke" special effect none of us could guess without seeing it in action. The definitions of his body will likely be smoothed out too, as he's supposed to be elemental like.

Am I getting warm Temp? Or am I way off?

All I want to know if he's going to resemble a ninja. Regardless if he's made up of smoke or not. Will he have a ninja mask or will he just have a generic face. Hey Temp, if ya can can you pm me and let me know please.

Here is smokes weapon he has 2 of them.

Reptile001, How do you know all of this stuff. FIrst of all, it was never confirmed by midway that he would come back as an elemental of smoke. You don't work for midway so you don't no shit.If he does come back as an elemental of smoke his body should atleast be his ninja form with a mask and everything.

smoke2789 Wrote: Reptile001, How do you know all of this stuff. FIrst of all, it was never confirmed by midway that he would come back as an elemental of smoke. You don't work for midway so you don't no shit.If he does come back as an elemental of smoke his body should atleast be his ninja form with a mask and everything.

I didnt say he was confirmed to be an elemental I said it was highly likely that he would be an elemental of smoke. Read the parentheses i am simply speculating. Temp has seen his his sketch and has said many times he will NOT be cyborg or human.

Well, more accurately, I was INFORMED of his model design.

I know what his model is, but I won't know what it visually looks like until they release it. But I'm prepared to murder an infinte amount of kittens if that's what it takes to final see the render.

Temp, have you seen his sketch? If you have fill us in on what it looks like. And do you know about his alternate costumes?

Unfortunately he cant because he swore to not tell anybody. I have tried to get him to tell me but he wont say anything. He just said Smoke was completely different.

smoke2789 Wrote: Temp, have you seen his sketch? If you have fill us in on what it looks like. And do you know about his alternate costumes?

Have I seen it? Nope.

I think hes full of shit, and hes talking out his ass and shittin out his mouth.

smoke2789 Wrote: I think hes full of shit, and hes talking out his ass and shittin out his mouth.

Well that's your opinion, and I respect that.

My main point is to reinforce what Konqrr has told us, which is that he is neither human or cyborg. Believe whatever you want.

Obreck Wrote: Actually he did have his UMK3 ending in the arcade version, I snapshoted it and copied in word-for-word when I created him for Mugen. font>

**Boots up Mame**

Darn, you're right. Sorry.

So he's neither Cyborg nor Human. There are a couple of posibilities:
1) He's an elemental, as was said. I think this would be stupid, so moving on...
2) He's a spectre or some other undead being. Alright, but could someone please tell me why we have Liu, Skab, Smoke, and Scorpion as undead?
3) He's something we haven't seen before. This is probobly the most believable thing, as another version of blaze isn't very logical (HTF would he become an elemental?), and I doubt Midway would pull "the old died and came back as something else" thing for so many different characters.
Hell, for all I care, he can come back as a liquid metal teletubbie samuri bounty hunter whom lived through a plane crash but had to eat the dozen or so of his friends that were with him. Just no ****ing elemental!