foahchon Wrote: SleepWalKer Wrote: So, saying that competition on Xbox will be better because you all will be playing on xbox is illogical because more people are on the PS2. If you are saying that posters here are better than non-posters at mortal kombat.. then that is just arrogance on your part. Well, we'll see, I doubt the players will be divided up based on their connection, but it's possible. I don't think unbroadband (narrowband?) users will like it if their competition is limited, and I'm pretty sure the same will go for those on broadband.

Well with all the online games that I have on PS2 there is an indication of your ping depending on where you play. If my ping is bad than I won't play them(regardless of whether they are on broadband or dial-up).

Only broadband plays Socom I and II, and there is plenty of competition(30k on at night & more on weekends). I don't care if they split it, I'd rather play broadbanders only. If they don't, I won't play against bad pings.

But, as many have pointed out, it is really about what Midway implements, as far as the PS2 version is concerned.

As of now, I'd say Xbox is free from these worries. Hopefully, PS2'rs will be as well with the right implementation for online play.

I wouldn't expect a huge game like MK to neglect PS2 online play features, but you never know.

I don't want to get into a console war. To the original poster....
I am playing MK:D on PS2 because.
A. I believe(yes, a belief not a fact) there will be more people to play against.
B. I know many more people(not friends, people I have met online) on ps2 than on xbox.
C. My MK comrades from the 90's, some of whom live out of state, all have ps2 and will be playing MK:D online.
D. No $50 dollar a year payment.
E. I like my fighters on PS2 more than I do on other systems.
If none of these reasons appeal to you, go with XBOX, it will have better graphics and a nifty online feature(which you pay the $50 for).
Honestly, I'd hook everything up that you plan on hooking up, except for the system. When it gets closer to release than you should compare. We will have more info then.
To RetileStyle and his pleasant "do your HW comment".
I never said xbox wasn't capable of certain things.
What ridiculous(loved ur spelling..HW anyone?) fees do PS2 users pay? I pay none.
You don't have to have the hard drive to play. IF and ONLY IF, they make downloadable content will you need it. PS2 is 200 with the online adapter, 100 for the 40GB hard drive + a game. So, price isn't that much of a difference.(xbox = 230 + 50/60? for xbox LIVE.)
Just because people in this forum are playing it on xbox, doesn't mean that there will be better competition. I went by sales numbers, not by a small demographic taken from a forum. XBOX has more advanced gamers?? I didn't know that.
With proper implementation, which I doubt Midway would leave out for such a popular PS2 title, PS2 owners should be able to play according to certain ping times. Hence, I won't be playing against the low pinging, dial-ups(IF THEY ARE EVEN GOING TO ALLOW THEM).
Before you tell someone they need to do their HW read a post for what it is and not for what you disagree with. I'm just implying PS2 isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be. My purpose is not to misinform/misguide. If you had read all my posts you would see that. So, you do your HW son.
My last post on this topic, I'm going to play Socom II online.

sleepwalker why do you have the xbox listed under $230, when its about $180 and i think live starter kit for 12 months, mechassault, and the headset is $70

SleepWalKer Wrote: "PS2 is 200 with the online adapter, 100 for the 40GB hard drive + a game. So, price isn't that much of a difference.(xbox = 230 + 50/60? for xbox LIVE.)"

X-box version i would recomend. Better and smoother graphics as well as more stable online play.

OMG xboxes headset is 70 dollars. are u crazy!!!!!!! ps2 headset is only 10 dollars and it is not cheap, it is just as durable as the xbox one, and ps2 made voice comm. so dont say xbox has a higher chance of getting to use there headset, we have better games to use headset on, like madden, manhunt, socom 1 and 2 invented the whole thing, when we go back 20 years we will say, this headset all started back when socom came out, socom made this headset wat it is today. thats what we will say, ps2 has way better games,we have every good game xbox has, only game xbox has is halo,we have MGS, and tony hawk, we have smackdown which is better then RAW,we have socom and rainbow six, we have resident evil online, and in the begining all our EA sports games were online only for ps2 and not xbox or cube, i wouldnt be surprized if they take out online for xbox and cube, and make the game for cube still, but online only for ps2, like they did madden 2002 online for ps2 online it was,and tony hawk 3. ps2 has the highest chance of maybe even being the only system to have it online. cause xbox wants to go online with xbox , and not intervine so they will piss midway off, like they pissed off FFXI and might not get online crap, in FF case didnt get the game at all.

i rather pay 30 dollars(for online play for the rest of your life with your ps2) thatis cheaper than one payment of xbox live (which is 50 dollars and that for a year only) when 30 dollar get u unlimited ps2 online play

ps2 harddrive is like putting 5 xbox harddrives in your ps2 40 gigs compared to xobxs 8 gigs.

i have to admit harddrive is a rip off, and FF since it is massive multiplayer and doesnt have a single player game its just online only, thats when u pay monthly like xbox. forget the harddrive its a rip off, i will wait to ps3 when that has a built in harddrive and built in muitltap, thats another thing ps2 is the only new system that has 2 contrlloer ports, thats stupid, but at least ps3 will have 4 or maybe 6 ports and wireless controllers are the stock ones.

but u dont need ripoff harddrive to play MK online thank god, so monthly payment go to xbox loser. no monthly payment play ps2, not an opinion, its a fact ps2 is better,as for graphics, it is a game that is on all systems(if on cube still.) so they willmost likely use same graphics, they wont give xbox there full power, like MKDA it looked the same as all the other console versions.

subzero256 Wrote: sleepwalker why do you have the xbox listed under $230, when its about $180 and i think live starter kit for 12 months, mechassault, and the headset is $70

An honest mistake, my bad, I was looking at the wrong thing. 180+70 = $250(+50 a year). Online with PS2 = $200(no fees).

The hard drive would make ps2 more expensive(32 GB more for $50 more), but is not needed to go online. If downloadable content is made, the hard drive would be a definite bonus. I hope that MK does have downloadable content, that would SWEET.

Anyway, sorry about the wrong price. There are so many different bundles, I was looking at the wrong one. I haven't been to the store to check prices in a long time. They have, indeed, come down alot over the years.

mortalkombat4life Wrote: OMG xboxes headset is 70 dollars. are u crazy!!!!!!! ps2 headset is only 10 dollars and it is not cheap, it is just as durable as the xbox one, and ps2 made voice comm. so dont say xbox has a higher chance of getting to use there headset

Actually, headsets were in use for PC gaming long before the Xbox or PS2 were even available, by years. It's not exactly a new idea, but the first time it was implemented on a console was on the Xbox through Xbox Live.

mortalkombat4life Wrote: i rather pay 30 dollars(for online play for the rest of your life with your ps2) thatis cheaper than one payment of xbox live (which is 50 dollars and that for a year only) when 30 dollar get u unlimited ps2 online play

You get what you pay for.

mortalkombat4life Wrote: ps2 harddrive is like putting 5 xbox harddrives in your ps2 40 gigs compared to xobxs 8 gigs.

It also costs 5 times more, for space people will likely never find a practical use for.

But anyway, I doubt consoles will use hard drives in the future. They will more likely use memory cards with huge capacities, so if you do max out a hard drive, you can, in effect, buy a new one and easily replace it. Unfortunately, this means buying more accessories...

definilty XBOX LIVE graphic own and no lagg

with out all the reasons i say X-BOX just cuzz I like it better than PS2

"but u dont need ripoff harddrive to play MK online thank god, so monthly payment go to xbox loser. no monthly payment play ps2, not an opinion, its a fact ps2 is better,as for graphics, it is a game that is on all systems(if on cube still.) so they willmost likely use same graphics, they wont give xbox there full power, like MKDA it looked the same as all the other console versions."

so ignorant *sigh*. there are no monthly payments for xbox live. and mk team has CONFIRMED they would use the xbox power this time around unlike mkda. which they tried to make as even as possible. yet the xbox version of mkda still smoked the ps2 version heh. mk deception will be leagues better on xbox. not opinion. fact. deal with it. anything ps2 can do, xbox can do better.

and yeah, i meant the online adaptor you have to pay for. not the harddrive. my mistake.

MENTHOL Wrote: so ignorant *sigh*.... yet the xbox version of mkda still smoked the ps2 version heh. mk deception will be leagues better on xbox. not opinion. fact. deal with it. anything ps2 can do, xbox can do better.

Oh, wow. I love it when people attempt to boost their ego by calling other people names. I want to play.

It smoked it did it? PS2 version didn't look as good, but its version never locked up when playing with Frost. PS2 version sold more copies than XBOX version. PS2 version had the same moves, fatalities, and gameplay. Xbox had slightly better graphics. I guess the PS2 version got smoked because...
a. it played the same?
b. it didn't lock up?
c. it sold more copies?
d. xbox had slightly better graphics?

Taking into account the Frost glitch, identical gameplay, and less sales, I don't see the xbox version smoking anything. The graphics didn't smoke the PS2's, but they were better. You make it sound like the difference between NES and a 2.1 GHz computer. Really, its only the difference of about 300 MHz.

Leagues better... Fact? Nothing is fact until proven. Neither have been completed nor compared. Hence, no factual data. All you state is your opinion and than falsely claim it to be fact. Obviously you know the difference between fact and opinion, so that doesn't make you ignorant, that makes you stupid.

I think PS2 will have more online players. OPINION.
I can play all the MK junkies I knew from the 90's on PS2. FACT.
I can play many of my current friends because they own PS2's as well. FACT.
I think I will enjoy it more for PS2. OPINION.

To me, I consider the PS2 version leagues better. That consideration is nothing more than the collected facts and opinions I hold about the PS2, but with any opinion involved, I cannot claim it as fact. Therefor, it is my personal opinion that the PS2 is better.

Anything PS2... XBOX better?
Now you're just being moronic. This statement strays far from the conceptualization of modern logic.

PS2 plays PS2 games, xbox cannot play PS2 games at the moment.
PS2 plays PS1 games, xbox cannot play PS1 games at the moment.
PS2 + hard drive can store 40GB, xbox cannot at the moment.
PS2 can play all EA games online, xbox cannot at the moment.
PS2 can sell 54 million units, xbox cannot at the moment, but only needs approximately 40 million more to catch up.

If xbox can do everything better, why do I like my fighting games on PS2 more??
I'll tell you. It's my personal opinion, not fact.

Xbox's processor is better, and as such can have better performance/graphics, but that doesn't mean it can do everything better than PS2.

yea xbox cant play ea games because of disputes but in all xbox is better, hard drive, faster, better graphics, custom soundtracks and many more reasons y xbox is better and xbox is better because bill gates has billions of dollars more than sony and nintendo so basically microsoft has more money and man power to make xbox a better system.


thats y theres no power greater than x!

ok #1 you topped a post that was probably on page 3. which is against the rules here if you didn't know. #2 i didn't call anyone names. he was being ignorant and i said so. big deal.




"It smoked it did it? PS2 version didn't look as good, but its version never locked up when playing with Frost. PS2 version sold more copies than XBOX version. PS2 version had the same moves, fatalities, and gameplay. Xbox had slightly better graphics. I guess the PS2 version got smoked because...
a. it played the same?
b. it didn't lock up?
c. it sold more copies?
d. xbox had slightly better graphics?"

a. it played the same
b. frost only locked up on her alt. costume in a couple stages. the platinum hits version fixed that.
c. no relevance at all.
d. and load times and sound.



"Taking into account the Frost glitch, identical gameplay, and less sales, I don't see the xbox version smoking anything. The graphics didn't smoke the PS2's, but they were better. You make it sound like the difference between NES and a 2.1 GHz computer. Really, its only the difference of about 300 MHz."

and everything i mentioned above. sales mean nothing at all. now THAT is ignorant to say. it proves absolutely nothing to how much better the xbox version was to the ps2. i mean, the genesis version of mk1 sold a billion times more than the arcade version. i guess that makes it better LOL. the frost glitch doesn't matter anymore. it's fixed.

"Leagues better... Fact? Nothing is fact until proven. Neither have been completed nor compared. Hence, no factual data. All you state is your opinion and than falsely claim it to be fact. Obviously you know the difference between fact and opinion, so that doesn't make you ignorant, that makes you stupid."

i think i'll take the mk team's comments on this one. unless they purposely make the xbox version bad, it will be better than the ps2 version. without much effort. much like mkda.


"Anything PS2... XBOX better?
Now you're just being moronic. This statement strays far from the conceptualization of modern logic.

PS2 plays PS2 games, xbox cannot play PS2 games at the moment.
PS2 plays PS1 games, xbox cannot play PS1 games at the moment.
PS2 + hard drive can store 40GB, xbox cannot at the moment.
PS2 can play all EA games online, xbox cannot at the moment.
PS2 can sell 54 million units, xbox cannot at the moment, but only needs approximately 40 million more to catch up."

wow. just wow. that was plain retarded. you have to be an idiot to not realize what i was saying when i said "everything ps2 can do, xbox can do better". i'll ignore the sales and everything else for the moment. you're totally off page and don't even realize what you're typing. you're letting your fanboyism type for you.

anyway, yes, anything ps2 can do, xbox can do better. every multi-platform game has been better on the xbox. some with even more features. the couple that are better on ps2 is because of lazy developers. you can twist. you can turn. you can spin it anyway you want. but anything ps2 can do, xbox can do better. EVERYTHING on ps2 could be done on xbox. everything. fact.

MENTHOL Wrote: ok #1 you topped a post that was probably on page 3. which is against the rules here if you didn't know. #2 i didn't call anyone names. he was being ignorant and i said so. big deal. and everything i mentioned above. sales mean nothing at all. now THAT is ignorant to say. it proves absolutely nothing to how much better the xbox version was to the ps2. i mean, the genesis version of mk1 sold a billion times more than the arcade version. i guess that makes it better LOL. the frost glitch doesn't matter anymore. it's fixed. i think i'll take the mk team's comments on this one. unless they purposely make the xbox version bad, it will be better than the ps2 version. without much effort. much like mkda. wow. just wow. that was plain retarded. you have to be an idiot to not realize what i was saying when i said "everything ps2 can do, xbox can do better". i'll ignore the sales and everything else for the moment. you're totally off page and don't even realize what you're typing. you're letting your fanboyism type for you. anyway, yes, anything ps2 can do, xbox can do better. every multi-platform game has been better on the xbox. some with even more features. the couple that are better on ps2 is because of lazy developers. you can twist. you can turn. you can spin it anyway you want. but anything ps2 can do, xbox can do better. EVERYTHING on ps2 could be done on xbox. everything. fact.

It was on page 2, not 3. WRONG

Ignorance can be deduced, there is no need for the statement, but since you enjoy using it, I'll send it back at ya.

I don't find my statement nearly as ignorant as yours. You did not make it clear what you meant by smoked. So I was offering ways in which the xbox version did not smoke the ps2 version. You're crossing 2 totally different things in your (so called proof). Arcade machines are way more xpensive than genesis+MK(approxiamtely 200x more)& they are much larger. Not everyone can afford the room or money to purchase an arcade machine. Xbox and ps2 games are the same price and the systems are relatively the same price.

I never said sales made it better, I just said it sold better. It is my opinion, however, that sales will make the next version better due to online play. The more sales, the more competition.

Aye, the Frost glitch doesn't matter anymore, but it was still a flaw on your superior XBOX versrion of the game.
Your logic dictates...
Xbox does everything better than PS2.
PS2 does not lock up when playing MK.
It follows that Xbox should not lock up when playing MK.
Unless, it is your belief that when a game locks up, it is better.
If always better and flawed go hand in hand, I guess I'll inform the intellectuals.

Take the MK team comments. I did on the last one, and saw no ripped clothes or stage fatalities. Hence, just because you take their comments, does not make it fact. I do believe they are going to do an outstanding job on MK:D though.

What constitutes your version of better??? Just because they say they will utilize each machine to its best ability, doesn't mean you will get more fatalities, more moves, or a different fighting engine. Xbox may get a few more features, it will look better, and load faster, but do you think that you are going to get an entirely different game??? MK:D(XBOXPlusVersion for example) With the PS2 hard drive coming out, the PS2 may get just as many features as the xbox. I KNOW that a hard drive cannot improve graphics or processor speed(I figuered I'd let you know that I knew before you made another ignorant assumption).

This was not plain retarded. It doesn't matter how you emphasize it with your "wows" to try to prove it. These were all logical statements of things that an xbox cannot do at the moment. You said, "everything", I say, "Not everything". I can disprove your statements, can you mine? I know the xbox has a better processor. It would be ignorant of you to assume that I didn't. I was just finding flaw with your ignorant statement because I thought that you would enjoy that. I mean, you wouldn't do it to others if you didn't enjoy it yourself, right?

I know that anything that can be done on PS2 can theoretically be done on xbox, but you did not state it as such.

As far as your "so ignorant *sigh*" comment, which comes off as being very arrogant. It seems to imply that everyone is beneath you because you are tired of having to point out everyone else's ignorance. I figured I'd point out yours.

Yes, multi-platformers are generally better for xbox that is why I buy them for xbox. I buy my fighting games for PS2 though because I prefer them on the PS2.

I love the fanboy statements. What constitutes a fanboy? I like PS2. I like xbox also. I even like the gamecube. Does this make me a fanboy? I don't claim that one system is better than another, BUT YOU CLEARLY DO. Hence, you are the fanboy trying to mask it by calling someone else such.

"It was on page 2, not 3. WRONG"

it's still bumping an older topic. but i'm not mod so i'll leave it alone.

"Ignorance can be deduced, there is no need for the statement, but since you enjoy using it, I'll send it back at ya.

I don't find my statement nearly as ignorant as yours. Your crossing 2 totally different things in your (so called proof). Arcade machines are way more xpensive than genesis+MK(approxiamtely 200x more)& they are much larger. Not everyone can afford the room or money to purchase an arcade machine. Xbox and ps2 games are the same price and the systems are relatively the same price."

so called proof? i said that where? that's right. nowhere. i didn't say arcade machine. i said arcade version. at the time the genesis was how much? $150? $200? plus the game. arcade boards run for around for the same price. yet the genesis version sold more. doesn't even remotely make it a better version. something you were content about bringing up as a fault why the xbox version of mkda wasn't better than the ps2 version. it means nothing. i was talking about the xbox version being better. you brought up sales. it means nothing.

"I never said sales made it better, I just said it sold better. It is my opinion, however, that sales will make the next version better due to online play. The more sales, the more competition."

still has absolutely nothing to do with mkda or why it's better. you brought up sales for no reason at all.

"Aye, the Frost glitch doesn't matter anymore, but it was still a flaw on your superior XBOX versrion of the game.
Your logic dictates...
Xbox does everything better than PS2.
PS2 does not lock up when playing MK.
It follows that Xbox should not lock up when playing MK.
Unless, it is your belief that when a game locks up, it is better.
If always better and flawed go hand in hand, I guess I'll inform the intellectuals."

ok fine. take into an account the frost glitch. -1 for the xbox version. ps2 version? -1 for graphics. -1 for sound. -1 for load times. xbox version is still better in the end.

"Take the MK team comments. I did on the last one, and saw no ripped clothes or stage fatalities. Hence, just because you take their comments, does not make it fact. I do believe they are going to do an outstanding job on MK:D though."

there is a difference. before mkda came out, they said they were going to make all three versions as similar as possible. this time they said they'll take advantage of each system's hardware.

"What constitutes your version of better??? Just because they say they will utilize each machine to its best ability, doesn't mean you will get more fatalities, more moves, or a different fighting engine. Xbox may get a few more features, it will look better, and load faster, but do you think that you are going to get an entirely different game???"

no, it won't be an entirely different game. but it will look the best. have the best sound. have the best loading times. and arguably, the better online service. but i'll stay away from that for the time being. and it doesn't need to have more to be the better version. it just needs to look, sound, and load the best. the snes version of mk2 was arcade accurate. but people like the superior arcade version for those simple reasons.

"This was not plain retarded. It doesn't matter how you emphasize it with your "wows" to try to prove it. These were all logical statements of things that an xbox cannot do at the moment. You said, "everything", I say, "Not everything". I can disprove your statements, can you mine?"

you bringing up ea online for ps2, 40gb hd, ps1 games, and for some reason sales. ea COULD go online with xbox. microsoft COULD make a 40gb hd. the xbox CAN play ps1 games with emulation. all of that doesn't prove anything. because the xbox CAN do that stuff if the opportunity approached. it's more than capable of handling all those things you mentioned.

"I know that anything that can be done on PS2 can theoretically be done on xbox, but you did not state it as such."

if you need me to hold your hand and guide you to what i'm saying instead of using common sense, my mistake. next time i'll be more clear.

"As far as your "so ignorant *sigh*" comment, which comes off as being very arrogant. It seems to imply that everyone is beneath you because you are tired of having to point out everyone else's ignorance. I figured I'd point out yours."

no ignorance on my part. just stating facts. where you got me thinking i'm above everyone and being arrogant, i must of hit a soft spot. because it was an ignorant comment and me typing *sigh* doesn't put me above anyone. but since you do read into things and haven't been for for too long, it is tiring slapping ignorant fanboys around. everyone is sick of stupid comments like that. fanboy idiots who have no clue what they're talking about run rampant here before a mk game comes out. happened with mkda aswell. it's just old.

"Yes, multi-platformers are generally better for xbox that is why I buy them for xbox. I buy my fighting games for PS2 though because I prefer them on the PS2."

i'm not questioning your decisions, but why? the controller? you can use a ps2 controller on the xbox. i'm only talking about multi platform fighters, obviously.

"I love the fanboy statements. What constitutes a fanboy? I like PS2. I like xbox also. I even like the gamecube. Does this make me a fanboy? I don't claim that one system is better than another, BUT YOU CLEARLY DO. Hence, you are the fanboy trying to mask it by calling someone else such."

oh i am an xbox fanboy. i admit. it's the same way you're a ps2 fanboy. over protecting it. both of us are. but i admit it. but you can mask it all you want if you're not comfortable admitting it.

"so called proof? i said that where? that's right. nowhere. i didn't say arcade machine. i said arcade version. at the time the genesis was how much? $150? $200? plus the game. arcade boards run for around for the same price. yet the genesis version sold more. doesn't even remotely make it a better version. something you were content about bringing up as a fault why the xbox version of mkda wasn't better than the ps2 version. it means nothing. i was talking about the xbox version being better. you brought up sales. it means nothing."

I was NOT listing ways ps2 was better, I was listing ways that the ps2 version "smoked" the xbox version. Smoked to me, means outdid, and in these ASPECTS of the game it outdid the other. If you meant something else by smoked you should say so. Again, the arcade board is not a good example. Not everyone knows how to obtain an arcade version and make it playable. Genesis was there and easily obtainable.

"still has absolutely nothing to do with mkda or why it's better. you brought up sales for no reason at all."

Again, I never said it was better, I said certain aspects of the PS2 version smoked the xbox version. Why do you keep assuming that I mean sales make the PS2 version better. I simply stated that the PS2 version "smoked"(outdid) the xbox version in sales.

"ok fine. take into an account the frost glitch. -1 for the xbox version. ps2 version? -1 for graphics. -1 for sound. -1 for load times. xbox version is still better in the end."

Your definition of better is still an opinion. Sound does not matter to the deaf. Load times do not matter to the patient. Graphics do not matter to the blind. I'm not saying that the blind, deaf, and patient are playing video games. I'm saying that graphics, sound, and load times are not a big deal TO ME. SNAFU is still one of my favorite games of all time. It was for intellivision and had poor graphics, poor sound, but not much load time.

"there is a difference. before mkda came out, they said they were going to make all three versions as similar as possible. this time they said they'll take advantage of each system's hardware."

Yes, but again, my point was overlooked. They did say that the versions would be similar last time, but they also said there would be ripped clothing and stage fatalities. So, they "say" they will take advantage, this does not mean that they will. I'm sure they will, however, this point is moot. It's only purpose was to find flaw in your opinionated facts.

"no, it won't be an entirely different game. but it will look the best. have the best sound. have the best loading times. and arguably, the better online service. but i'll stay away from that for the time being. and it doesn't need to have more to be the better version. it just needs to look, sound, and load the best. the snes version of mk2 was arcade accurate. but people like the superior arcade version for those simple reasons."

Finally, all that time just to determine what you meant by better. I agree those aspects of the game will be better, but they do not factor into my equation of why I think the game will be better on the PS2.

"you bringing up ea online for ps2, 40gb hd, ps1 games, and for some reason sales. ea COULD go online with xbox. microsoft COULD make a 40gb hd. the xbox CAN play ps1 games with emulation. all of that doesn't prove anything. because the xbox CAN do that stuff if the opportunity approached. it's more than capable of handling all those things you mentioned."

Yes, if the opportunity presented itself, the xbox could. I am not bashing the xbox, I'm pointing out the flaws in your logic.

"if you need me to hold your hand and guide you to what i'm saying instead of using common sense, my mistake. next time i'll be more clear."

Guidance doesn't require hands, but presentation does require clarity. If I ignorantly assumed everything, I'd look like a jack ***.

"where you got me thinking i'm above everyone and being arrogant, i must of hit a soft spot. because it was an ignorant comment and me typing *sigh* doesn't put me above anyone. but since you do read into things and haven't been for for too long, it is tiring slapping ignorant fanboys around. everyone is sick of stupid comments like that. fanboy idiots who have no clue what they're talking about run rampant here before a mk game comes out. happened with mkda aswell. it's just old."

No, no soft spot. Yes, it was an ignorant comment on my part, I should have looked at it in a different manner before spearheading a cause behind it.

"i'm not questioning your decisions, but why? the controller? you can use a ps2 controller on the xbox. i'm only talking about multi platform fighters, obviously."

1. All my compardres are on PS2, if I want to whoop them, I'm going to be playing the ps2 version.
A. when I go to their house
B. online

2. Alot of the old shool, MK players that I knew from the 90's who live out of state will be playing on the PS2.

3. I believe that there will be more people online, which means a bigger ladder. I want to see if I can be a big fish in a big pond. I could be wrong, xbox might outsell the ps2 version this year, but if it did, I'd stick to PS2 for the 2 reasons above.

"oh i am an xbox fanboy. i admit. it's the same way you're a ps2 fanboy. over protecting it. both of us are. but i admit it. but you can mask it all you want if you're not comfortable admitting it."

I have been denying my true nature, the Taoist sages would have a word or two with me about that one. Ite, I am a fanboy. I just hear the term being used in such a derogatory way that I never wanted to be associated with it.

P.S. Sorry about the venting, and I appreciate the conversation. If I had gone out tonight in that condition, I would have ended up in a fight.

ps2 fanboys are the most pathetic of all the fanboys, theye are pissed off because xbox has all the features ps2 does not, and the worlds greatest online gaming service.

funny thing about online gmaeing is that 56k means lag, and ps2 has 56k adapters, which means ps2 has lag, and the funny thing is not all the games use the voice communicator, most dont.

nintendo fanboys are not as anoying as the ps2, gamecube actually is better than ps2, cept for the complete lack of games on it which makes it not worth getting unless you love nintendo games and there all you play.

but, ps2 fanboys, there jerks,they dilibertly go out of there way to bash anyone or anything that is not ps2 freindly, i once asked one of thoise nerds who bugged me at the mall is "if ps2 is so much better than xbox, then what kind of loser spends all of his free time bitching at ppl who could care less about what they say on how ps2 is great instead of getting a real job and buying your own crap?" he shut up after that one

xbox is better, just admit it, online is better, let me put it this way, what type of jerk makes you buy a online adapter in the first place? should it not be included free with the system? also, the hd for ps2 is $100, should not that be free as well? and finally why the hell would you need 40 gigs of hard drive space on a council in the first place?

see, ps2 sucks, i got a gamecube, then i got a ps2 cuz no games for gamecube where being made fast enough, then the ps2 games sucked and had no online broadband only service that plays all games, so i bought an xbox, now i play xbox instead of ps2, on occasion i play gamecube.

with that said, let me say enjoy buying the headset that over 1/2 of all ps2 online games dont use seperatly from the network adapter which allows 56k users to cause lag.

on a side note ps2 fanboys dont waist ur breath, cuz i really could care less about what u say, i just think its funny that u have nothing better to do than bitch about how the $300 system you bought when it 1st came out needs a $30 network adapter with a headset sold seperatly and a $100 hdd most games wront use makes the pos2 better than xbox, which came with a hdd and broadband nic card, gamecube who's 1st party games are great, or pc who's graphics own everything.

well for me im getting on the box because its much better and im pissed off at sony for not letting any 2d games into australia

xbox is a way better system 1 it has better online play (for which im getting xbox live),


2 its a better system for graphics, sound, loading times as just been pointed out

3 and i know this is really of topic but its better 2d games system (if i were a dreamcast fanboy i would say this is next generation dreamcast)

that being said i used to be a sony fanboy back when it had crash as a mascot but now im not i own xbx, gcn, ps2, gba

i will say that wwe smackdown for the ps2 is the best in the wrestling series raw just sucked big time

on another point ps2's breakdown more often then the xbox (Although ive only my xbox since last august and i love halo) where i as ive had ps2 since it came out and the im currently on my second ps2

even though i have something like 50 ps2 games and only 21 xbox games thats going to this yr cause im going to be buying the multiplatformed games on the xbox so i reckon with the amount of games coming out this yr ill have probably as many ps2's gamse now as i will have on the xbox (if that ever made sense)

another point before i go, more fighters are going over to the xbox, the upcoming xbox live fighter from sammy iron-pheonix looks amazing i hope it gets australian release, also king of fighters 2002 has been mooved to the xbox, so with this the fan basis will grow for the xbox

unfortunatly the ps2 fanboys out there will grow to hate xbox even more and say something like this microsoft saw how awsome the ps2 king of fighters 2000/2001 pack was so they stole snk away

i guess what im trying to say is that ps2 fanboys are mainly old dreamcast fanboys now who got dreamcast for kof/sf/ms among others and now there on the ps2 fanboy roster (for the lack of a better word)

whew that was a mouthfull sorry i made it so long but i thought i would follow the trend in this thread of long posts

do all of you have to fight we all know the truth, they should just make it were we can all fight no matter what system we have, if its the same game on all platforms there should be no problem, if its not then you just found out what i already know,

xbox is king

I'm going with PS2 on the basis that more people have it and it simply has the BEST controller ever.

i dont like the pos2 controller, they took the dual shock, which was awsome, then put 2 on it, then it was "o look a brand new controller"

so now its old, kinda like a snes controler for the n64 when u look at it.

im going xbox, xbox live is the best, and regardless of what the fanboys tell u there is no monthly fee for anything, u buy the xbox live starter kit, which comes with mechassult now i think, and u get a year of live with headset and what not.

if u go ps2, u got lag, and u got to bu the headset like extra i beleive, and most games dont even use it.

o yea, each game on pos2 online requires its own username and password so buddy lists will prob not be a possability.

keep the budd list in mind when you want to have freinds from here or where ever play u at mk, or any other game for that matter.

hey guys, where is the press release that says MK:D will be online for the XBOX? I haven't read it yet.

People, using the word "better" in describing a console, is just an opinion, because being a better system would require the user to pick out the games s/he likes best, and buying a console should be based on the games the system has or the potential games it could have. Not based purely on power. It is a fact that xbox is more POWERFUL than ps2 and gamecube, but not better.

Anyway I'll get the xbox version since it has the potential of having the non laggier online play (due to not having 56kers), if it does truly have online play on xbox, because i did not read anyplace where it said it would be online on xbox. (M$ better get online!!!)

Man...first of all,I wanna thank all of you guyz ...oh and gals too for taking the time out here...you all are really helping me out with the different perspectives and such ,you all are making some very,very good points for both sides,and I havent even read all of the thread as of yet(im on my way out the door),but hears what I think my main point of concern may be in making my decision and one which I havent read of anyone bring up as of yet,...CHEATING!!!...I've been poked fun at by a friend that owns a X-BOX (cause I currently do own a PS 2)that I'm going to havta deal with people GAME SHARKING on PS 2 !,and if i would just go the LIVE route,that due to the fact that theres is no GAME SHARK for the X-BOX and that the LIVE service is constantly monitored,I wouldnt have ta worry about cheating on the X-BOX,is any of this true at all?
thanks,
Wise~