LOL, wow that's like beyond false it's not even funny. Your last paragraph that is.

Why do I say that? Well, umm ok perhaps you can humor me and explain why ALL arcade games and arcades are dead now, not just MK games at local arcades. hmmmm? Just in case you haven't noticed, every arcade game isn't made by Midway so your theory is beyond shut down seriously...there's nothing wrong with UMK3 arcade. You want to rip a company for seriously fucking up? How about KI huh? Game was hardly played in the arcades where ever I went where there was a KI machine, they collected dust literally while people were playing MK, SF, Tekken etc KI was all lonesome all dusty. RARE you should have a beef with since your beloved KI is dead and they keep lying to the fans saying "Yeah, we'd love to see a KI 3 some day"......KI should have done a better job not Midway, Midway did a good job with the older MK's in the arcades.

I know you love bashing midway every chance you get, but DE and Midway did do a great job online, don't care what anyone says... on 360 port don't believe m, go post this over at ultimate.com dude, and I assure you there will be 100's over there that will agree with me. The only thing wrong with DE and Midway when they ported it to the 360 was the locked characters not staying unlocked, but there are easy ways to keep them unlocked Ermac, Mileena and Classic Sub. If that's the one thing complained about then I'm happy. But as I said, it's not an issue now. It was at first.

Net play is oldschool, very few people knew about that at the time or even played on that except some players. More players are playing on MAME-kaillera, ZSNES, Zbattle and definitely on the 360 versions just so you know.

first mr mk fan, im talking about wavenet. go to ask lex and the boys what it is.

digital eclipse made umk3 for 360, not midway. all midway did was put there name on it, and supplied the roms. DE also to sf2and most on the games on xbla.

ki was dead in the arcades???? lol u wish, a ki machine got just as much play as an mk2 and mk3, machine.

tekken is still big in the arcades, so dont say arcaes are dead, midway gave up on the arcade scene after mk4, cause it was such a bomb and it made shit. if they kept there plans and released mkda in the arcades it would have bombed too. mk lost it arcade following after mk4. these people who play mk now online are not real mkers, they never played in the arcades.

Yes I know what wavenet is, arcades going live. yes, yes I'm well aware of it.

I know DE was involved but so was midway, umm they're the company who MAKES or INVENTED MK period, duhh. They has to give permission for the game to be used, not DE.....and DE worked with UMK3 arcade if you unplug the machine and plug it in as I have, you'll see this with your own eyes.

Tekken is only and of course at "certain" places still being played because it's also the one game with ummm no online play.

Therefore Tekken fans don't have much of a choice, do they?

Really??That's funny because KI was dead every time I ran into a machine.

MK4 is arguably the most hated MK ever made...then when MK:DA came out it was originally supposed to be an arcade game but didn't happen, still that game got fans back into the series and is a good game.

teken is still played cause they did something no one else did for a fighter. released the exact same game for home console at the same time as arcade releae, and u can plug ur ps2 controller into the arcade machine.

so cause midway gave the ok for the game to be converted online means they helped?? they did nothing with the reprograming of the game.

do u see umk3 for xbla anywhere on the midway web site???? NOOOOOO cause they didnt make it. Do u see in on the digital eclipse website? YESSSSSSSSSSS cause they made it.

Actually, you're wrong about midway's "non-involvement" they were indeed involved. I even have a video showing exclusive behind the scenes during MK3 and UMK3 showing Boon supervising the testers playing UMK3...not "digital eclipse" they only helped and help port it onto legit online playing systems such as 360, DS for example so that it plays well.

Umm, Midway DID make UMK3 are you blind? Why do you think they have their icon on all UMK3 products...DE also helped with SF online as you even mentioned before does that make DE the "maker" of SF? Umm no, capcom is...yet you keep saying DE made UMK3...wrong, Midway did.

You just won't admit because your of hatred for Midway.

That's funny last time I checked Midway's fighting games, UMK3 was listed...

Where do you get your info from?

did i say midway didnt make umk3?? no i said midway did not make the conversion for xbla.

is digital eclipe oened by midway?? no its an outside company that made the game. just like midway didnt make shalion monks.

Yes, you did before ^^ you said midway had nothing do with the "development and programming" yes DE helped but Midway's the one who tested the games.

DE didn't make the game, UMK 3 you just contradicted yourself again. First you say Midway didn't make the game, then ask me "when did I say that" then say DE made UMK3, not Midway...you seriously need to re-read what you type.

And midway did make MK:SM, it was done in the old studio in california under Shawn Himmerick's supervision with Boon keeping in touch.

That studio is now closed down.

its not closed down, they bought it mid production. the company that was making mksm was not midway, midway than purchased the company mid way through the game, thus now making shawn h employeed by midway.

midway make the game umk3, they did not convert it to xbla.. show me where on midways site u see anything about umk3 online. they have all there other classic there, but no umk3 whey cause they didnt make it, ditigal eclipse did. thats why its on digital eclipses website and not midways.

I played MK3 all the time using Kali with my 28.8 with about 10 people. fun fun on the PC

just for u mkf, stop trying to make it like u know all the facts. so midway made mksm?


http://www.midway.com/rxpage/mpr_934.html

Midway MUST be asked permission first to use any of their games online, I know DE helped port it on the 360 that's not what I'm saying.

You're saying Midway "didn't make UMK3" when they clearly did, that's what I'm saying.

As for MK:SM, Himmerick was apart of Midway/Paradox yes I'm aware of that and SINCE midway bought the company, thus making them owned by Midway. Therefore, Midway has say in the game since it's a MK game. Boon even said this via interviews prior to the game as well as Shawn himself before joining up officially with the rest of the MK team in Chicago.

BTW, you're wrong about their Cali studio shutting down. Not too long ago on MKO they even posted about it, within the past year or so Red.

They said clear as day when Midway took one of their stock dives that two of their other locations shut down, the one in cali and one in austrailia.


It's on here, go search on here it's here in the news archives assuming you can find it.

they bought it, but while it was not owned by midway, they were making the game. the game was way into production before the sale.

i dont care what input boon had, shawn h was head programer of mksm, and engine and combo system far superior than anything ed boon has made.

did i say midway didnt make umk3, no i said they did port umk3 to xbla.


ed boon is a very creative person, the prob his he half ass all his ideas, if thats because of higher up in the company because of deadline, than thats what makes midway a shitty company. i would also like to add, u mention all these titles midway makes, area 51 is another game they didnt come up with, but the product of buying a smaller company to get the title.

Yes, I know MOST of the game MK:SM was done already but not all of it 100% before it actually came out under Midway/Paradox.

And I agree, I know Shawn was the team leader under MK:SM but at the same time that was a completely different engine obviously then the fighting games. MK:SM was a great game IMO, fun as hell but I don't understand why some fans want just a "fighting game" out of that engine, there actually is a fighting mode in it which is fun but more like an "MK/SSB engine crossover" if you think about it, I don't think many fans would like it personally other then Shaolin Monk fans.

Boon isn't half ass with his ideas, the problem is Midway gives the MK teams deadlines to meet whether or not the games are actually finished or not, thus why most of the fighting MK's have revisions etc. Area 51 they had part in, just not 100%.....besides Midway isn't known for that game, they're known for MK, Cruis N seris, Rampage, Smash TV as far as classics. Psi Ops was a great game, don't care what anyone says. Most even felt this way after they played it, great engine and fun as hell. Problem was nobody heard of it, but the game was great. Got a 9.5 out of 10 on gamespot and in 2004 won best game to introduce a new engine that works well.

There's plenty of great, well known Midway titles but those are just a few I can list for ya.

Hopefully, with MK8 they have patches. I really want this honestly, since we all know many xbox games have had problems "patches" are key.

As for companies, very few are near to flawless and most have had struggles one time or another. Just look at Sony, Nintendo, Xbox. They've all had their ups and downs as well as video game companies.

Midway has had it's struggles, but there's a lot worse out there as well or just as bad. Capcom hurt themselves with killing SF for years until recently announcing SF 4....RARE sucks now straight out, they killed off KI and lie to the fans a lot worse the Midway ever has and the also killed Perfect Dark series. The one for the 360 was alright...nothing like the original by any means.

EA has been sued for various reasons, their online server sucks royally (especially PS2) just go ahead and play Burnout game you'll see what I'm talking about....

Ohh yeah and Acclaim killed themselves and almost killed the Turok series along with it, a new company now has control over Turok that's being completely remade. Finally.

Oh and for those keeping count

Midway Stock : $3.11/share
Atari Stock: $2.50/share


Wow, I mean this is bordering on the line of pathetic. Pure pathetic