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07/06/2008 02:07 AM (UTC)
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-Brad- Wrote:
Sonya having skilled use of technology sounds better than randomly being “special”.


I think Boon probably meant she was special in the sense that she's trained through her life to summon her chi (or fa jing as MKDA puts it), just like Kang, or any other fictional martial artists who can throw fireballs/energy projectiles.
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07/06/2008 02:27 AM (UTC)
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i personally think that Rayden taught Sonya, Jax and Johnny Cage to overcome their innate fears and develop their innate powers right before each of the tournaments.


Nope, Sonya and Johnny both had their abilities during MK1, before any of them had even met raiden, let alone trained with him. Jax had his powers from the outset of MKII, which was before he met Raiden. It was also before he got the metal arms, now that I think of it, so he should probably be moved to training on my list, unless those metal gauntlets he wore back then had an ability similar to the arms.
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RazorsEdge701
07/06/2008 02:24 PM (UTC)
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Personally, I've also always preferred the idea that Sonya's Ring Toss is some sort of Special Forces technology, not a chi power.

The other characters all have training mentioned in their bios. Liu being a Shaolin Monk, he would know how to tap into his chi. Cage travelled the world and trained with "ancient masters" before he became an actor. Sub-Zero inherited cryomancy and was taught to use it by the Lin Kuei. Et cetera.

But Sonya has none of that in her background, just ordinary military combat training. She should be just a normal person like Stryker.

I also noticed in the Gametrailers MK vs DC footage that the graphical and sound effects for her Ring Toss seem very sci-fi weapon-like.
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07/06/2008 03:30 PM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:


The other characters all have training mentioned in their bios. Liu being a Shaolin Monk, he would know how to tap into his chi. Cage travelled the world and trained with "ancient masters" before he became an actor. Sub-Zero inherited cryomancy and was taught to use it by the Lin Kuei. Et cetera.

But Sonya has none of that in her background, just ordinary military combat training. She should be just a normal person like Stryker.

I also noticed in the Gametrailers MK vs DC footage that the graphical and sound effects for her Ring Toss seem very sci-fi weapon-like.


?

But is it needed to go into detail of what appears to be so obvious? She had military training, but she is also a great martial arts expert, and like Johnny Cage, that kind of training must had been received by masters of the same kind as well.

Not just "ordinary" military training.

I prefer Eds and Johns idea of her using her "Chi" powers.

Btw, her Energy Rings sound and play with the same fashion they did in her past games, only this time they look cooler.

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RazorsEdge701
07/06/2008 04:02 PM (UTC)
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"Chi" isn't like the mutant powers of the X-Men. You're not born able to tap into your chi. The word "chi" just means "inner strength", the hidden power that lies within every human soul. it's something everyone is capable of learning to use, with training.
And unlike Johnny Cage, Sonya just does not strike me as the kind of person who ever had a time in her life where she could go to other countries, seek out mysterious masters of ancient arts, and learn from them. I imagine she grew up with an ordinary American life and joined the army straight out of high school.
And I disagree that the Ring Toss sound effect is the same one from past games. It sounds different to me, more Star Wars blaster-like.
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07/06/2008 11:30 PM (UTC)
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TheAdder Wrote:
DeathScepter Wrote:
i personally think that Rayden taught Sonya, Jax and Johnny Cage to overcome their innate fears and develop their innate powers right before each of the tournaments.


Nope, Sonya and Johnny both had their abilities during MK1, before any of them had even met raiden, let alone trained with him. Jax had his powers from the outset of MKII, which was before he met Raiden. It was also before he got the metal arms, now that I think of it, so he should probably be moved to training on my list, unless those metal gauntlets he wore back then had an ability similar to the arms.



comic books and video game canons are two seperate subjects.

Much like MkA movie, It doesn't effect what goes on in the video game and other media verison of the mortal kombat story.

Aka Rayden is not the son of Shinnok nor the brother of Shao Kahn.
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queve
07/07/2008 12:30 AM (UTC)
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RazorsEdge701 Wrote:
"Chi" isn't like the mutant powers of the X-Men. You're not born able to tap into your chi. The word "chi" just means "inner strength", the hidden power that lies within every human soul. it's something everyone is capable of learning to use, with training.

And unlike Johnny Cage, Sonya just does not strike me as the kind of person who ever had a time in her life where she could go to other countries, seek out mysterious masters of ancient arts, and learn from them. I imagine she grew up with an ordinary American life and joined the army straight out of high school.

And I disagree that the Ring Toss sound effect is the same one from past games. It sounds different to me, more Star Wars blaster-like.


I said the Energy rings play and sound with the same “fashion” like the old games, aka “style”, obviously not the same way since neither of her rings sound exactly the same way. *shrugs* It isn’t even important.

And yeah, I know what "Chi" is, its not me who implied they were born like that, it was Ed and John.

And as for your example, I honestly cant see how a serious military trained woman who is an expert in the martial arts department is much harder to believe to have learned to discover and master her “Chi” powers then an egocentric fun playing movie star who's ultimate goal is to make more movies (until MkA).
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07/07/2008 02:43 AM (UTC)
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DeathScepter Wrote:
TheAdder Wrote:
DeathScepter Wrote:
i personally think that Rayden taught Sonya, Jax and Johnny Cage to overcome their innate fears and develop their innate powers right before each of the tournaments.


Nope, Sonya and Johnny both had their abilities during MK1, before any of them had even met raiden, let alone trained with him. Jax had his powers from the outset of MKII, which was before he met Raiden. It was also before he got the metal arms, now that I think of it, so he should probably be moved to training on my list, unless those metal gauntlets he wore back then had an ability similar to the arms.



comic books and video game canons are two seperate subjects.

Much like MkA movie, It doesn't effect what goes on in the video game and other media verison of the mortal kombat story.

Aka Rayden is not the son of Shinnok nor the brother of Shao Kahn.


And I am referring to the videogame (A.K.A. Real) canon. According to all the information available to us, Raiden didn't interact with the Earthrealm warriors, besides warning them that some bad shit was about to happen at the end of MKI/beginning of MKII, until MK3. Check their MKI and II bios.

This is, of course, assuming you don't take MK:SM, with all of its plot holes, as canon.

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And as for your example, I honestly cant see how a serious military trained woman who is an expert in the martial arts department is much harder to believe to have learned to discover and master her “Chi” powers then an egocentric fun playing movie star who's ultimate goal is to make more movies (until MkA).


Because Johnny is stated to have trained with a bunch of ancient masters from around the world. Sonya had U.S. military training. And as a military brat, I can tell you first hand that "Mastering your Chi" is not on the training regiment of the U.S. Armed Forces.
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TheAdder
07/07/2008 02:47 AM (UTC)
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Crap, meant to edit my last post not make a new one. Delete this please.
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-Brad-
07/07/2008 03:04 AM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:


But anyways, it doesn’t even matter whether you care or not because it was Ed Boon who said it.


He also said all the MK8 info and look how different it became. I haven’t seen it because it’s in Spanish. But even if, doubt much thought was put into it, with the reasoning of it’s only a game.

queve Wrote:
And just so you know, Liu Kang is not the only warrior who uses and controls his “Chi” power. Just as easy as it is to believe that he learned it by training (or whatever magical unexplained means) and discovering his inner secrets and strength, its just as easy to believe the same for Cage, Kung Lao, etc.


No shit.

queve Wrote:
You can even see in Deadly Alliance the way they gave certain characters their “Chi” powers and strength in the form of Power-Ups, and Sonya was one of the characters who used her Chi.


Gameplay only, hince the characters growing triple their size.

queve Wrote:
As a side note, your suggestion about Area 51 stuff was very cool . Nice idea! It would provide an interesting twist, but it also changes the already established essence of the character, and thats not right. Mixing both elements could work very well though.


Not happening.

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