Amen, man.

Your perfectly right bro. Anything is possible in MK!

TemperaryUserName Wrote: "Smoke is a cyborg, he can't be anything but a cyborg." "Kabal is rumored dead in Konquest, there's no way he could be in MKD." "Noob Saibot's flesh is pitch black, so the pic definitely can't be him." Note that all of these which have been said a hundred times over the last months have proven to be wrong. And of course they're incorrect. MK's setting is structured under dark fantasy. There is no can't. And the sad thing is, people are still what is and isn't possible for MKD, and they have no actual clue of what they're talking about. Here are you're "possible" solutions, BTW: -Raiden could have brought Smoke to the heavens and returned him to his previous form as a reward for his services(yes, Raiden is that powerful). -As the quote says, Kabal's death was mentioned as a rumor, and nothing else. -Noob Saibot has been seen in grey skin as well, so even if they don't have a plot explanation of his new skin color, they technically don't even need one

Glad somebody said it. I agree 100%.

Fantasy or not, there should be some things that can't be done. Or if they are, there should be a very good reason for them, not just "make Smoke something else" for the sake of it.

red_dragon Wrote: Fantasy or not, there should be some things that can't be done. Or if they are, there should be a very good reason for them, not just "make Smoke something else" for the sake of it.

Is it really that hard to believe that smoke can be returned to human form? Given all of the Sorcery and what not that takes place in MK games? I mean come on you have a guy that can only survive by beating people and sucking there souls, you have another guy who's address is hell and people with various other powers.

When I first opened this thread, I was fully expecting to make a reply insulting your intelligence, TUN. However, I was surprised to find that someone could actually make that point without screwing it up completely. Way to go.

Irregardless, it is true that there are SOME things that they can't do even in a fantasy setting, but those things are pretty far beyond the scope of Boon's stupidity, so we needn't worry bout any of them.

If half the people on this board had Temporaryusernames common sense, this place wouldnt be so bad.

[b]Is it really that hard to believe that smoke can be returned to human form? Given all of the Sorcery and what not that takes place in MK games? I mean come on you have a guy that can only survive by beating people and sucking there souls, you have another guy who's address is hell and people with various other powers.[/b] Plus the ressurections, and realms, and vampires, demons, Scorpion is dead but he still walks the Earth. Elemental Elder Gods, MK can be compared to dungeons and dragons really. With all the possibilities I'm sure they could come up with some reason as to why Smoke is human again.

I don't it so much people thinks things can't happen it's just that people are tired of things happening and being undone. Smoke was turned into a cyborg and that's supposed to be a big deal because he doesn't want to be one. Kabal was only rumored to be dead, but the general belief is that a confirmed dead character should stay dead. Revolving door storylines are annoying and stupid.
However, I think anything can be done, as long as there's a VERY GOOD reason. Smoke can be human, as long as there are consequences and repercussions for it, and it isn't just Rayden snapped his fingures and made Smoke human again.

I hope more people read this.

Well said dude.

Oh my God... not one flame. I thought this thread was going to get butchered, but you guys proved to be far beyond awesome. Thank you all for good replies and kind words. But back on topic...

Yes, in fantasy some things shouldn't be done, even though there is no natural law making it impossible. But I see no reason why reversing Smoke's automation or giving noob natural flesh is so unreasonable. Truth is, they could both scientifically and magically revive Smoke very easily, but some people just don't want him human again. They make themselves look better by saying "Smoke cannot logically be human," than saying "I hated human Smoke and making him human again would be stupid." Most pro-cyborg guys could care less what logically can happen in MK, they just want their character, their way. As for noob, he could have been armored in black for stealth reason. No one knows WHY his skin was black, or if that was even his skin.

But since I don't think Smoke will be human, I'm assuming that the only way he can escape his metal form is by transforming his physical matter into a myst. It's the closest thing he can get to ever being human again.

I don't think there is anything that can't be done with all these powerful gods. Even if they couldn't do it Midway could make someone who could.

Well, alot of people want "realism" in MK, but it isn't MK cause it's fantasy, not like the other fighters out there (apart from Soul Calibur). With that said, it doesn't mean MK can't be deep. Actually, its the complete opposite. Because of the fantasy, you can get to do more stuff that is not normally possible. Maybe that "depth" that some people are looking for isn't in the technical side of things, but through fantasy.

You are 100% right.
Most people mean that it isn't logical from previous evidence.

I agree 100 percent.

TemperaryUserName Wrote: "Smoke is a cyborg, he can't be anything but a cyborg." "Kabal is rumored dead in Konquest, there's no way he could be in MKD." "Noob Saibot's flesh is pitch black, so the pic definitely can't be him." Note that all of these which have been said a hundred times over the last months have proven to be wrong. And of course they're incorrect. MK's setting is structured under dark fantasy. There is no can't. And the sad thing is, people are still saying what is and isn't possible for MKD, and they have no actual clue of what they're talking about. Here are you're "possible" solutions, BTW: -Raiden could have brought Smoke to the heavens and returned him to his previous form as a reward for his services(yes, Raiden is that powerful). -As the quote says, Kabal's death was mentioned as a rumor, and nothing else. -Noob Saibot has been seen in grey skin as well, so even if they don't have a plot explanation of his new skin color, they technically don't even need one *Edited for grammar*

TemperaryUserName Wrote: "Smoke is a cyborg, he can't be anything but a cyborg." "Kabal is rumored dead in Konquest, there's no way he could be in MKD." "Noob Saibot's flesh is pitch black, so the pic definitely can't be him." Note that all of these which have been said a hundred times over the last months have proven to be wrong. And of course they're incorrect. MK's setting is structured under dark fantasy. There is no can't. And the sad thing is, people are still saying what is and isn't possible for MKD, and they have no actual clue of what they're talking about. Here are you're "possible" solutions, BTW: -Raiden could have brought Smoke to the heavens and returned him to his previous form as a reward for his services(yes, Raiden is that powerful). -As the quote says, Kabal's death was mentioned as a rumor, and nothing else. -Noob Saibot has been seen in grey skin as well, so even if they don't have a plot explanation of his new skin color, they technically don't even need one *Edited for grammar*

Well, i expected no less from Temp, hes one of the most clear-headed and respectable person on this whole site. I bow down to you, good sir!
And maybe this thread will keep a few people's "ideas" about "cant do this and that" to themselves because the more people argue about minor details, the longer the wait for MKD feels!!
Basically anything can happen and will happen in the world of MK.

With a good explanation behind it, I'd be interested to see a Smoke who's "neither human nor cyborg". I might even start liking him, as I always thought he was very boring before.

I agree that "can't" is the wrong word to use for a fantasy setting. Maybe "should" is a better word for some of the less credible things. For example in theory, Kung Lao and Shang Tsung could form an alliance, but it probably shouldn't ever happen, unless there's a damn good, believable reason.

Your right lets thank the yank