Katas in MKD
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posted08/10/2004 01:25 AM (UTC)by
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younglost27
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08/03/2004 12:04 PM (UTC)
what do you think the styles will be like
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Siduu101
08/08/2004 07:47 PM (UTC)
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What is Katas? confused
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Hyukan
08/08/2004 07:59 PM (UTC)
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That is plural, you should say what is a kata.

Katas are a combo sort of. You could say.
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younglost27
08/08/2004 09:49 PM (UTC)
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like the katas in DA
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Siduu101
08/08/2004 10:02 PM (UTC)
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Is it the movies with the chracters dancing their moves? confused
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younglost27
08/08/2004 10:11 PM (UTC)
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right on point
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Cyborg_wolf
08/08/2004 10:33 PM (UTC)
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Katas are not dances, they are compulsory Martial Art exercise performed to rehearse and improve your techniques, spacing, power, and speed.
As for Katas in MKD, i'd like a LOT of them. A LOT.
Soul Calibur 2 was that much better IMO because of all the Katas.
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08/08/2004 10:48 PM (UTC)
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The question is, which ones will have katas? Or indeed will they all?

A Jade Kata from within her cell would be pretty cool, running up the wall and backflipping, etc.
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Nizzim
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08/08/2004 10:51 PM (UTC)
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I didn't like the katas in MK:DA because it was like only Kenshi and Kitana and Frost.

I would like to see a double kata with Subby and Scorpion. One with Raiden, one with NightWolf. And One with shujinko after you beat Konquest
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HoodedGansta
08/08/2004 10:59 PM (UTC)
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isnt the dancing style call capoeria?
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Cyborg_wolf
08/08/2004 11:10 PM (UTC)
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I have a whole thread about Martial arts in general, if anyone is interested.
Capoeira is a Brazilian Martial art/dance, it looks much like dance because it was designed by slaves who were not allowed to fight.
As for Katas in MKDA/MKD, true there were too few, but Katas are generally performed alone, and whatsmore, in open spaces. Thus a Kata designed for a prison cell is nonexistant. However, this is a game, and bending the rules a little is not such a bad thingtongue
And about prerendered vids with 2 kharakters sparring, it would be great if nicely coreographed and available to view at anytime trough extra menus.
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Cyborg_wolf
08/08/2004 11:12 PM (UTC)
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Oh, and welcome to MKO, nizzim!grin
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Nizzim
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08/08/2004 11:15 PM (UTC)
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yeah that's what i mean just a real nice vid of two contrasting characters sparring with great fighting coreography confused

I would pick Subby and scorpion
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younglost27
08/08/2004 11:23 PM (UTC)
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that is the jinja you are talking about
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Cyborg_wolf
08/08/2004 11:27 PM (UTC)
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You and i think alike, nizzimwink
Younglost27: that is the jinja you're talking about.

Sorry, i did'nt understand that. What did you mean?
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Shinomune
08/08/2004 11:32 PM (UTC)
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I have an idea about the Katas with the OXM Bios, it's that each fighter makes the kata of his favourite fighting style.

Baraka: Blades
Mileena: Mia Chuan
Sub-Zero: Shotokan
Scorpion: Hapkido
Raiden: Nan Chuan
Ermac: Choy Lee Fut?
Sindel: Zha Chuan?
Bo' Rai Cho: Drunken Fist?
Hotaru: Pi Gua?
Nightwolf: Vale Tudo?
Kenshi: Katana?
Ashrah: Choujaio?
Li Mei: Baji Quan?
Kobra: Karate?
Jade or Tanya: Sun Bin?
Kabal: Hookswords?

Thoughts?
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08/08/2004 11:32 PM (UTC)
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nizzim Wrote:
yeah that's what i mean just a real nice vid of two contrasting characters sparring with great fighting coreography

I would pick Subby and scorpion


o like the commercial for MKDA with scorpion and quan-chi? ya they really should have put that whole video in the krypt in MKDA. it was tight.
The forms (kata) shown in Soul Calibur 1 and 2 were a great bonus.
I think Namco seems to have access to world class martial artists to do the motion capture from and the animators tweak the data to perfection.I'm not sure Midway are at the same level.Has there been any interviews with Boon etc about their research of the styles used for MKD?

They mispelled silat by putting an e on the end (silat is not a style it is an umbrella term for many styles just as "kung fu" is not a style)and spelled "hara kiri" wrong too by spelling it hari kari,so i'm not sure they would bother to get in all the right experts to motion capture for the various kata.
It would be great to see though.I'd love to see a FMV clip as a bonus reward of the characters doing kata or just fighting in full pre-rendered sequences would be fantastic.Hope we don't have to wait til MK7 to see this kind of thing.

Oh yeah,kata can also be performed by 2 people together as in aikido or ninjutsu,in some silat styles they perform a "pentas" basically a 2 person fighting sequence performing full contact with weapons such as machetes, but it would have to be done as a FMV mirror match as only one character has "silate"(silat) as their "style".

100% I want to see FMV forms/kata in MKD!
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Cyborg_wolf
08/08/2004 11:50 PM (UTC)
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GoldenSquirrelFist Wrote:
The forms (kata) shown in Soul Calibur 1 and 2 were a great bonus.
I think Namco seems to have access to world class martial artists to do the motion capture from and the animators tweak the data to perfection.I'm not sure Midway are at the same level.Has there been any interviews with Boon etc about their research of the styles used for MKD?

They mispelled silat by putting an e on the end (silat is not a style it is an umbrella term for many styles just as "kung fu" is not a style)and spelled "hara kiri" wrong too by spelling it hari kari,so i'm not sure they would bother to get in all the right experts to motion capture for the various kata.
It would be great to see though.I'd love to see a FMV clip as a bonus reward of the characters doing kata or just fighting in full pre-rendered sequences would be fantastic.Hope we don't have to wait til MK7 to see this kind of thing.

Oh yeah,kata can also be performed by 2 people together as in aikido or ninjutsu,in some silat styles they perform a "pentas" basically a 2 person fighting sequence performing full contact with weapons such as machetes, but it would have to be done as a FMV mirror match as only one character has "silate"(silat) as their "style".

100% I want to see FMV forms/kata in MKD!


Me too, damn, i thougt i was the only one that thought that. About Motion capture actors, Carlos Pesina (Classic MK Raydens and mocap on MKDA) is a talented martial artist. At least he says so.grin
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younglost27
08/09/2004 12:37 AM (UTC)
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kung fu is spelled gung fu
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Nizzim
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08/09/2004 12:41 AM (UTC)
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carlos pesina is ok but you need more to make a good game
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Cyborg_wolf
08/09/2004 12:53 AM (UTC)
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Both spellings are "correct" chinese is hard to translate directly.

Agreed, good mocap does'nt make a game, as in Enter the matrix, but it does'nt make it worse either.grin
kung fu is also spelled gong fu.Chinese is not just one language,cantonese,mandarin,fuzhou etc... so you can have kung fu/gong fu/gung fu etc all meaning the same thing.Different transliterations for different dialects become more popular at different times eg Peking became Beijing...

Back on topic... would be a nice reward to get the FMV forms/kata maybe after finishing the game on harder settings or during Konquest mode when your character acquire a new style,seeing the fmv would represent your character observing and learning the new techniques.Of course first of all we should be given a FMV ending on completing the game on normal difficulty setting.
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Nizzim
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08/09/2004 01:01 AM (UTC)
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yeah but im saying more people for motion cap do stuff better and get it done faster.

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Shinomune
08/09/2004 01:11 AM (UTC)
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No one thought on my idea? sad
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