Kenshi doesnt deserve to be in Mortal Kombat Deception
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posted04/22/2004 10:33 AM (UTC)by
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blackwizard
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02/28/2004 08:56 AM (UTC)
I honestly think its an insult to Ermac to have someone else with telekenatic powers in the game. I mean, without his specials, Kenshi is a pretty boring fighter in my opinion. Ive never understood why he has so many fans in the first place. I think it would be best if Ermac went deceptive on his ass and killed him, but thats not going to happen because hes confirmed.

Anyway, which telekenitic are you gonna use more? Ermac or Kenshi? You guys can guess which one is my fav...
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mccauslander
04/21/2004 08:32 AM (UTC)
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Yes he does. Not only was he the best new character overall in Deadly Alliance (Nitara beats him in fighting, however), but he's the most unique looking character to come out of MK since, since Quan Chi. Bo Rai Cho doesnt deserve to be in MK Deception, i only hope the whole "Bo is playable" fiasco goes away when e3 comes. then everyone will realise hes only in Konquest, and that either Quan Chi, Kung Lao, Drahmin or Nitara are replacing him in the "Returning from MK:DA" list.
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blackwizard
04/21/2004 08:36 AM (UTC)
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Being the best new character overall in MKDA isnt something I would wanna brag about considering the new characters were all fucked up anyway. And honestly, his looks might be cool, but wat is he without Ermacs techniques? Nothing dear god, nothing.
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mccauslander
04/21/2004 08:45 AM (UTC)
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blackwizard Wrote:
Being the best new character overall in MKDA isnt something I would wanna brag about considering the new characters were all fucked up anyway. And honestly, his looks might be cool, but wat is he without Ermacs techniques? Nothing dear god, nothing.


that is your opinion, not mine. Sure, there were some characters that weren't exciting design wise (Hsu Hao, Li Mei, Drahmin). But, they were cool to play as.

On the subject of Kenshi "borrowing" Ermac's special moves, Kenshi only "borrowed" one of them and that was Ermac's only teleknetic move in UMK3/MKT. The other moves were just filler (a generic projectile and Scorpion's Teleport Punch with a flame). Kenshi had a teleknetic push and toss, which were very good to use. And the push he gained from his ancestrial sword, not from Ermac, so dont go around saying "Kenshi is a clone of Ermac", cause its false.

I hope you learn something from this.
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Dark_No0B
04/21/2004 08:45 AM (UTC)
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I see where your coming at, and i have to admit, i dont really like the fact of 2 teleknetic warriors being in MK. However, if there specials are both TOTALLY different, then its cool. I must say though, i like ermac alot more, because not only was he the first teleknetic warrior to be in MK, but because the teleknetic slam was his own signature move. He should have it back, i didnt like how kenshi had it.

IMO, its a situation like this. Theres a kid named Danny, he has a blue soccer ball and wheres red shoes. Hes one of the most popular kids at school, and everyone loves his blue soccer ball. But then, a new kid shows up. The new kids name is Neil, and he also wheres red shoes, and his soccer ball is the name as Danny's, except a bit bigger and looks more new. Since Neils arrival in the school, everyone is attracted to him and forgets about Danny. Danny is soon to be forgotten, while Neil is the new light.

Nothing TERRIBLY wrong with that, but IMO ermac was the original. Kenshi should have his OWN unique moves. In a thread, i made a post about what kind of special moves ermac should have to seperate him and kenshi from having the same moves.
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04/21/2004 10:58 AM (UTC)
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Dark_No0B Wrote:
I see where your coming at, and i have to admit, i dont really like the fact of 2 teleknetic warriors being in MK. However, if there specials are both TOTALLY different, then its cool. I must say though, i like ermac alot more, because not only was he the first teleknetic warrior to be in MK, but because the teleknetic slam was his own signature move. He should have it back, i didnt like how kenshi had it.

IMO, its a situation like this. Theres a kid named Danny, he has a blue soccer ball and wheres red shoes. Hes one of the most popular kids at school, and everyone loves his blue soccer ball. But then, a new kid shows up. The new kids name is Neil, and he also wheres red shoes, and his soccer ball is the name as Danny's, except a bit bigger and looks more new. Since Neils arrival in the school, everyone is attracted to him and forgets about Danny. Danny is soon to be forgotten, while Neil is the new light.

Nothing TERRIBLY wrong with that, but IMO ermac was the original. Kenshi should have his OWN unique moves. In a thread, i made a post about what kind of special moves ermac should have to seperate him and kenshi from having the same moves.


i agree with u there. The MK Team should just drop the teleknetic slam from kenshi's move list, then everyone will be happy smile
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ermacandcheese
04/21/2004 11:52 AM (UTC)
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Uh, is this the point where I say that Kenshi was just a Scorpion clone in MK:DA?
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04/21/2004 12:17 PM (UTC)
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Kenshi should be in there. Kenshi is a good character and has a great story. He is one of the better new characters in MK for a long time.

His telekinetic powers are better than Ermacs and have better combo potential thanks to his styles, although Ermac wioll probably be just as deadly with it now.

Taking the Telekinetic Slam off Kenshi would be a hude blow to him as it leads to his biggest and best combos. It would dimimish him if they removed from him. He should keep it. Ermac taught it to him, so he should keep it!
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04/21/2004 12:30 PM (UTC)
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Well I never liked Kenshi because he remined me of Ermac, who I dont lik either. So to see them both return aint exactly thrilling me. He should be replaced, I'd replace him with any charcter just about from the whole series, I just dont like Kenshi. SOrry Kenshi fans.

And was't it confirmed that Bo Rai CHo was only appearing as a trainer? I'm sure it was but can't remeber where.
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04/21/2004 12:49 PM (UTC)
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Kenshi is a great character in any MK game, his blind ass brought a jedi-master fighting style into mk's samurai melee and that's fine with me.

They'll obviously have to fine tune his moves and make them more original to include both him and Ermac, but isn't that just as true of Noob and Smoke vs. Scorpion? Of course it will be done, and different enough fighting styles, two telekinetic warriors will be a bonus in my book.
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04/21/2004 01:10 PM (UTC)
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I was glad to hear Kenshi was returning...His story line is much better than the pallete swapped ninja's from a "revision" game. Another reason he is liked so much is because of his appearance, he just looks bad-ass. The only reason I ever liked Ermac was because of his powers, then Kenshi took them over and I was extremely pleased. I believe Kenshi will become a "classic" MK character like Sub-Zero and Scorpion and you should expect him to be in future MKs.
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04/21/2004 01:14 PM (UTC)
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Dante_Is_Back Wrote:
I was glad to hear Kenshi was returning...His story line is much better than the pallete swapped ninja's from a "revision" game. Another reason he is liked so much is because of his appearance, he just looks bad-ass. The only reason I ever liked Ermac was because of his powers, then Kenshi took them over and I was extremely pleased. I believe Kenshi will become a "classic" MK character like Sub-Zero and Scorpion and you should expect him to be in future MKs.


you took the words right out of my mouth smile
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cookoo
04/21/2004 02:30 PM (UTC)
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I Hate Kenshi. But I love Ermac and Bo Rai Cho too. So everyone got there reasons but I can't picture Ermac using telechensis? in MKD, He has a warrior look now.
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04/21/2004 02:55 PM (UTC)
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I think that Kenshi will be the one champion from MKDA and will defeat the Dragon King in MKD. Kenshi is an all around original character and the telekenetic powers fit him better than Ermac. Ermac may have new moves all together.
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04/21/2004 03:05 PM (UTC)
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"Uh, is this the point where I say that Kenshi was just a Scorpion clone in MK:DA?"

Uh, is this the point where I reply that Ermac was a glitch, a palette swap of Scorpion, who had one original move and two generic moves?

Kenshi's look in MK:DA was sweet, with the bandana over his eyes, etc. His outfit looked sweet, and compared to other MK:DA characters (most notably Hsu Hao, Bo Rai Cho, and sorry, Frost) he was much more fun to play as. Granted he and Scorpion fought way to similarly, but I dug his story much more than most other MK:DA characters. I just wish they hadn't put him with the justice leag...special forces.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Ermac's new look in MK:D. But I kinda wish they'd used that look for a new character, or perhaps Smoke, instead. I kinda thought that the torch had been passed. Guess not.

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Cyborg_wolf
04/21/2004 04:03 PM (UTC)
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Yes he DOES. I for one think that Kenshi is the best new kharakter in MKDA.


And, he's good at shov...(go see the kharakter chat thread.grin)
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04/21/2004 04:14 PM (UTC)
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I thought kenshi was a pretty good character. Probably one of the best new characters of MKDA. At first I didnt realize he had the telekinetic slam that ermac had, until i played konquest. I thought how he was blind was cool. His second outfit was pretty dumb, he reminded me of RYU, he had that one white karate outfit with the red headband over his eyes instead of his head. I dont think he should come back for MKD. There are many other characters out there that are better that havent been announced. As long as my favorites return i dont care. But until this point I hope he is removed from the confirmed characters.
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04/21/2004 04:21 PM (UTC)
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I'm obsessed w/ Kenshi. I liked Ermac, but Ermac had no depth do his story and only one telekinetic move, and it was lame. Even if Kenshi is a "rip-off" his story mentions that he was taught telekinesis by Ermac, so it makes sense. I think it'll be interesting to see the two go at it, and how they'll interact when the time comes.
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deuce685
04/21/2004 05:50 PM (UTC)
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Kenshi is the shit! He is on of the best characters to come into the game. He has an original story and look to him. I am highly pumped to see him in MKD.
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04/21/2004 05:52 PM (UTC)
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i thought i was the only one who's obsessed, lol. kenshi's a great character with a unique storyline, a bad-ass primary costume and, well, a lack of eye vision. despite my agreement w/ one message previously, i don't mind ermac, i look forward to what he has to offer in mkd, but kenshi happens to be my favorite mk character. i didn't really dig his alternate costume because it made him look a lot like ryu from Street Fighter. since we've seen his new costume (kinda) for mkd, i hope his alternate costume would be his primary costume from mkda.

as for him being 'champion' (there was no real tournament, but either way there's always a 'champion'), he could be the next champion, but it could also be either kung lao or sub-zero. with that, on a final note-kenshi definitely derseves to be in mkd!
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CMETH
04/21/2004 06:27 PM (UTC)
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I think it's pointless for Kenshi or Li Mei(if she is in it) to be in MK:D since they are only lower versions imo of former characters.

Without Ermac ever teaching Kenshi his moves he would be no one special. And considering Kenshi only has that as his powers he is lame when compard to the original telekentic slammer Ermac.

Ermac has more then one ability unlike Kenshi.

No point for Kenshi or Li Mei to be in it since Li Mei was just a big boobed Mileena rip-off and the boobs is what made alot of people(mostly horny little male teens)like her and say is something of a good character.

Whats wrong with two characters with the ability of telepathic control?

We had two ice throwers in DA?

In real life there is more than one person with the same ability.. to play baseball.. to draw something.. they're just "different." Right, Yea?

Dur.
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CMETH
04/21/2004 06:41 PM (UTC)
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Frost was lame though since she was just a female version of Subby, dur.
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TheKrypt
04/21/2004 06:46 PM (UTC)
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When I first bought MK:DA I used Kenshi first because he looked awesome, plus when i was playing konquest. I found out he was blind and Ermac teached him one move. What im getting at is Kenshi is one of the best new characters in mk. the only reason he has telekinetic powers is because ermac taught him. (unlike frost she came out of no where with ice abilities, wich makes her a copy of sub-zero)...plus kenshi story is one of the best story they thought of. so i say Kenshi all the way! smile
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Godzilla
04/21/2004 07:03 PM (UTC)
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Um, the reason Kenshi has telekinetic power's was because of his ancestor's sword. Ermac just taught him how to do the slam with it.

I myself think if their psychic abilities are different in nature, then they'll be okay. For instance, let's Kenshi keep his moves, give Ermac his teleport, a Telekinetic slam different then Kenshi's, and the ability to choke people with telekinesis. A little Darth Vader-ish, but alright.
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