kobra? low, low h, mid, or mid h tier ?
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posted09/06/2007 06:12 PM (UTC)by
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what is it with kobra? last night i was online and i
feeled like using kobra and every time that i said
''who want to play i ll use all kobra'' people would say ''kobra lol''
i was like WTF!

is like 90% of the players online thing that kobra is trash and
that you can t win if you use him confused

i know he is no even close to be a top character but he is not trash.
he can be very good if you use him wisely. he do ok vs many of the top characters like sareena, quan chi, scorp, noob etc...
so why is it that people think that he is trash?

i say he is mid tier.


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funkopath
08/21/2007 02:27 PM (UTC)
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I would say mid, but I don't use him though, I do wanna pick him up next.

I only seen you playing Nightwolf with me to 10, you should let me check ur Kobra out ...
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08/21/2007 02:43 PM (UTC)
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Kobra's like around mid. I think it's his overall lack of mids in Kickboxing contributes to this. Luckily some of his Machete and special moves hit mid, and are kinda safe. On a defensive game, I think Kobra plays pretty well.
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08/21/2007 04:28 PM (UTC)
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no kobra is 100% low just like shang tsung......

but if used wisly hes ok (just like shang tsung) wink

people say the same thing about shang "oh he sucks" well comparing to other characters yes he does suck but since i use shang at a high level and u use kobra at a high level it confuses people. it turns from a "kobra sucks" to a "kobra is ok" if used correctly.

i mean look at my shang hes a low tier but since i use him at the highest level im like 6-1 in a shang vs drahmin match (btw thanks for the 1 BONE!!!)

so there you go..plus this also refers to bones fact that its the PLAYER not the CHARACTER

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08/21/2007 06:19 PM (UTC)
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If he had Shorin Ryu then he'd be better off instead of crappy Kickboxing. I'm not sure if his Machete is better than Kali Sticks, but then again those Kali Sticks rightfully belong to Sonya.tongue
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08/21/2007 06:32 PM (UTC)
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I love Shorin Ryu on Cage, Cage would have probably suck hardcore with Kick boxing.
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08/21/2007 06:51 PM (UTC)
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funkopath Wrote:
I love Shorin Ryu on Cage, Cage would have probably suck hardcore with Kick boxing.


yes he would have sucked with kickboxing

hmm i wonder what it would be like if scorp had kick boxingtongue
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08/21/2007 07:39 PM (UTC)
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G_gamer07 Wrote:
If he had Shorin Ryu then he'd be better off instead of crappy Kickboxing. I'm not sure if his Machete is better than Kali Sticks, but then again those Kali Sticks rightfully belong to Sonya.tongue


kali sticks doesnt have the priorities on mka it had on mkd .
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08/22/2007 02:19 PM (UTC)
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Kobra is fine, definitely mid tier.
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08/22/2007 04:32 PM (UTC)
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Radical Wrote:
Kobra is fine, definitely mid tier.


-_- think about it, kobra is like kai if it wasnt for his weapon he would'nt have any mids but since his weapon is ok i guess that'll make him like high low or mid low
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08/22/2007 10:47 PM (UTC)
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Kobra is mid tier. a good all around character.

he can hit his foe from long distances w/ the teleport, flaming fist.

the low fireball and fire kick move give him decent 50/50 no matter what stance hes in. the lows in His 1st stance are all very good. b+3,b+4, d+4.
i love using his 1. 1+up4 is nice pretty safe and if it hits you can deep kick over for a free throw (most of the time). they both still hit High mid making it hard to duck the hits.

Kobra is all about keeping a decent amount of distance and using his speed to attack.

Im w/ you Riu people are silly saying he sucks. i can use him better then i can use Scorpion.

its the player not the character.

he fits my style of play.
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08/23/2007 05:56 PM (UTC)
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He still has the best projectile (maybe) in the game, i remember people yelling OMG it's like fighting Sagat! hahaha

I agree with what most of you are saying tho... mid tier mostly because of kickboxing. Machete b1 is nice bait/mid/jugg. Mix db1 with 3422 and you'll give many people problems. I wish i knew how safe db4 actually is when i was playing.

Ko definitely needs to be played like an asshole to win xD
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08/24/2007 06:13 AM (UTC)
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d1 owns

his sweep is the best

b3 3 is too good

doesnt 2/22/222 hit mid? and is safe, tracks. free throw.

14, cs, 3422, cs, 22b2 is probably his best combo online

db4 is worthless, doesnt even work off parrys, good for anti air i guess, but slow. if you land the first half of the air to ground combo, then it can be used as the second popup/half of the combo.

1 is good i guess

thats about it.

he has nothing that tracks thats good in weapon, so its worthless.

however, 14 d2 df2 good stuff..

d1 ftw
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08/24/2007 03:58 PM (UTC)
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well i guess hes mid i feel dumb for calling him low when cuz everyone well voted mid my opinion was way wrong lol
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08/24/2007 05:30 PM (UTC)
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Everything in kickboxing either hits high or low, it has no mids. Still, d+1 and b+3,3 are great.

2,2 and u+4 in Machete are cool too.
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08/30/2007 05:03 PM (UTC)
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machete3,4,2,2 and u4 are priceless with kobra, the low fireball is great for turtling.......ive actually spent some time on him.
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08/30/2007 11:05 PM (UTC)
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Kobra is Low Tier.

There isnt a Kobra that can even compete with me.

Then again it is the Character not the Player.

Still,His 3,4,2,2 can be Parried in between every hit and its VERY unsafe. His b+1 is VERY unsafe. His only priority is his Fireball.

Nothing more.
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08/31/2007 03:58 AM (UTC)
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KARATE Wrote:
Kobra is Low Tier.

There isnt a Kobra that can even compete with me.

Then again it is the Character not the Player.

Still,His 3,4,2,2 can be Parried in between every hit and its VERY unsafe. His b+1 is VERY unsafe. His only priority is his Fireball.

Nothing more.


That's because I haven't used him yet KARATE. Remember:

NAKM = Low-tier Masta!glasses
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08/31/2007 04:01 AM (UTC)
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G_gamer07 Wrote:
KARATE Wrote:
Kobra is Low Tier.

There isnt a Kobra that can even compete with me.

Then again it is the Character not the Player.

Still,His 3,4,2,2 can be Parried in between every hit and its VERY unsafe. His b+1 is VERY unsafe. His only priority is his Fireball.

Nothing more.


That's because I haven't used him yet KARATE. Remember:

NAKM = Low-tier Masta!glasses


You are to busy killing newbs on MKD,instead of playing MKA with me...sad
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08/31/2007 04:53 AM (UTC)
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KARATE Wrote:
Kobra is Low Tier.

There isnt a Kobra that can even compete with me.

Then again it is the Character not the Player.

Still,His 3,4,2,2 can be Parried in between every hit and its VERY unsafe. His b+1 is VERY unsafe. His only priority is his Fireball.

Nothing more.
let me guess, are you using

Noob, Sareena (not as much w/ her), Scorpion, Kung Lao and Drahmin during these matches?

you cant say he's low tier when he's having to face those guys.

every time i play you these are the only characters you choose.

are you talking about vs the cast?
who the hell is going to try and spam 3,4,2,2 anyway?? thats just dumb.

Riu, Mrs, Alexi (best 1), EZ2beat & myselft all play a good one.
match him up vs a non Top 10 character im sure he'll do well vs you.
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08/31/2007 05:11 AM (UTC)
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KARATE Wrote:
G_gamer07 Wrote:
KARATE Wrote:
Kobra is Low Tier.

There isnt a Kobra that can even compete with me.

Then again it is the Character not the Player.

Still,His 3,4,2,2 can be Parried in between every hit and its VERY unsafe. His b+1 is VERY unsafe. His only priority is his Fireball.

Nothing more.


That's because I haven't used him yet KARATE. Remember:

NAKM = Low-tier Masta!glasses


You are to busy killing newbs on MKD,instead of playing MKA with me...sad


Actually no. I've had some good comp that past few days. SENESE obviously. MORTAL25, LastNiteMistake, DERRTY (even though he's a crybaby), etc.
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09/02/2007 06:28 AM (UTC)
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Under what criteria is Machete b+1 even remotely unsafe? It recovers like almost instantly and it pushes back on block.
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09/02/2007 07:05 AM (UTC)
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Radical Wrote:
Under what criteria is Machete b+1 even remotely unsafe? It recovers like almost instantly and it pushes back on block.


Does it do the same for Ashrah?
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09/02/2007 05:13 PM (UTC)
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if riu makes kobra mid tier then my smoke should be high tier . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . wink
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09/02/2007 08:45 PM (UTC)
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krayziebonethug Wrote:
if riu makes kobra mid tier then my smoke should be high tier . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . wink
-wow some one is a bit cocky about his smoke LOL

lets do a Kobra vs smoke to 5 series.. sound good?
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