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Well, as you know the DK is the newest addition to the baddies crew, and there's a lot of mystery and hype shroudeing him. Let's analyse a little it of the facts we know about him.

First of all he was the ruler of the outworld long before Khan appeared that must be at least 10000 years ago according to the MK story. He was very powerful, evil ans vicious as he wanted to conquer all of the realms that existed. He was backed up by his undefeatable army composed by feudal japan samurai-like soldiers. But as we may know the Dragon King died Prematurely but in his quest for power he left a final legend behind him.

"As the last remaining egg of the great dragon hatches the Dragon King will return". for this he created an organiztion of monks that will take care of the Last Dragon Egg until it hatches to fullfill the legend. I hope i have not missed anything but some doubts have raised from the info we know about him.

1)If he was the former ruler of the outworld, before Shao Kahn, this means both of the may know eachother, but the question here is, were they allies, enemies, or Kahn was one of his servants.

2) How did Kah narouse into power after his death, and knowing kahn about the prophecy, did he aid in the preservation of the Egg or he was against this prophecy to come true.

3)How dide he died?, was he killed? by who?, and howcome all his entire army dissapeared and was mummyfied, this lets blanks in the Outworld making it easy to Conquer.....

4) Was he in alliance with any eld demons, as he was aloud to be preserved until his resurection.

5) What is the relationship between The Dragon Egg and the dragon king himself, because as we can see, he is not a Dragon itself, he is a humanoid, (dont tell me that he is a blend of Dragon and Human because that'd mean he is a shokan)

6)Blaze was commande to preserve the egg and the chamber of the dragon as well, who commanded him? when? what is the quest he was on?

7)What will be the relationship of the dragon king now newly reborn with the evil cahracters,

8)How do you think the "Reptile is the Dragon King" Rumor will be cleared.

Just some thought, i hope you enjoy reading them and thinking aout possible solutions. SuCh Is LiFe
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06/15/2004 06:41 PM (UTC)
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8) Reptile's body is used as a vessel for the DK. Reptile may not exist anymore.
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06/15/2004 07:24 PM (UTC)
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He may be a vessel but that doesn't make him dissappear forever
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06/16/2004 09:14 AM (UTC)
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Nice thread, bro.

You’ve raised several good points, some of which I’ve wanted answers to for a long time!

1) Both the Dragon King and Kahn may not know each other at all. What if Kahn was merely a kid during the Dragon Kings reign? If they did know each other, I doubt Kahn would have been an ally. But he wouldn’t have had too high a position. With the power Kahn possesses, it would have been risky giving him to much authority, unless Kahn wasn’t so strong back then and he did have a position of power in the Dragon Kings ranks.

If they were enemies, Shao Kahn wouldn’t have been much of a threat back then. Although that would again depend on how powerful Kahn was back then. Although they have made out the Dragon King to be far superior, so No matter how powerful Kahn was, I don’t think he’d have been any match for the Dragon King.

2) This has already been explained I believe. King Jerrod and Queen Sindel were ruling at the time when Kahn took over if I remember correctly. Kahn killed Jerrod in battle. However, his rise to power and how he managed to learn the dark arts I do not know. And considering Kahn and the intentions of many evil people, they don’t want anyone around who is a capable threat to their legacy, whether good or bad. If Kahn knew of the prophecy, he’d have seen to it that the egg was found and destroyed. Unless he could control the Dragon King when he was reborn.

3) The Dragon Kings death has to have been caused by some great power. He may have been consumed by some power he was trying to gain, kind of like Frost in her MKDA ending. Some superior fighter either killed him. Or some being or group with immense power defeated him. I’m thinking the Elder Gods may have had something to do with this, but I’m obviously not certain.

As for his army, they are probably connected to the Dragon King in some way. So what happens to the Dragon King happens to them in a way. Although the army should have been destroyed, not preserved. Unless the Dragon King was the one who did the preserving. He may have known about his own demise and saved his army. Or it could have been someone else. They may have wanted to come back at the right time to unleash the army once again. Although now, Quan and Shang have it.

4) He could have been. The Elder demons may have been at his control and so would have helped him gain great power and conquer realms. And I doubt the egg has anything to do with the gods. Although they may have had the power to create it.

5) I don’t know what relationship the egg has to the Dragon King other than what we already know. I believe the Dragon Kings essence is trapped within the egg along with his power. Come to think of it, the whole thing seems like the Power Rangers Movie. The bad guy was trapped in an egg until he was released.

A half human Dragon doesn’t necessarily mean Shokan either. Dragon are more Reptile and remember that species evolve to survive in their natural surrounding. Although I do agree that he is a humanoid. The name ‘Dragon King’ doesn’t have to indicate what he is. It can just be a title.

I am also beginning to think that the Dragon King, as a means of incubating himself so he could arise again created the egg. His followers would have had to trap his power and body or something within the egg when he was defeated. Although did Raiden and the gods know of the egg? Raiden did the narration in MKDA, so perhaps they did and the Elder Gods made the egg.

6) Blazes relevance was already explained in MKDA. The followers who looked after the egg trapped him. He was forced to look after it until it hatched. Maybe it was the head of that order that trapped him. As for Blazes quest, more should be told about it in MKD. He left after the egg hatched without even attempting to seek revenge on those who captured him. So it must be some very important quest.

7) I believe the Dragon King will want several of the evil people that we know of as his servants. Quan and Shang will be targets for death since they have his army. If Shao Kahn is still alive, the Dragon King will want that threat eliminated also.

8) I am hoping that Reptile will not be the Dragon King. I’ve said many times that I’d like his life force to have been used in order to revive the Dragon King. I wrote a bio for Reptile based on this idea.

There, I’m done! Hope that was ok, bro! wink


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06/16/2004 02:48 PM (UTC)
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Wow tg, you actually tried to answer each of the points, Amazing!. I do agree with you in some of the points specially the one about reptiles role and also about Blaze, nevertheless i realy think Shao Kahn will play a really important role in MK:D as they have to explain what is his relationship with the DK and what we will see of him for now on. Cheers!
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06/16/2004 03:06 PM (UTC)
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Mk_FrEaK Wrote:
Wow tg, you actually tried to answer each of the points, Amazing!. I do agree with you in some of the points specially the one about reptiles role and also about Blaze, nevertheless i realy think Shao Kahn will play a really important role in MK:D as they have to explain what is his relationship with the DK and what we will see of him for now on. Cheers!


No problem bro!

Answering them all seemed to be the point of the thread, so I did.

Considering one of the carvings on a stage in MKD, Kahn might be back. The carving resembles his old mask except for the dome forehead and the small, curved horns.

And yeah, I hope the connection between him and the Deagon King is revealed. If there is one.
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06/16/2004 03:11 PM (UTC)
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I can't really recall which stage are you talkkingabout bro, if you have a picture that'd ba awsome and it will surely gives us an insight of what Kahn really is going to be
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06/16/2004 03:40 PM (UTC)
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I don't have a pic bro. Sorry! Although I'm sure you'll have seen it in one of the magazine scans at some point.
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06/16/2004 04:08 PM (UTC)
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isnt shao kahn dead tho? i think they made that clear in deadly alliance
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06/16/2004 04:14 PM (UTC)
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The dk could be related too reptile since kahn had destroyed reptile people long ago and the dk is one.
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06/16/2004 04:32 PM (UTC)
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I like all the points that MK Freak and Tgrant made except one. How are you guys so sure hes a human? Look at the facts not just the fact that hes called the DK. Ok first off his power was sealed in a Dragon Egg and their was a Dragon inside because it was said to revive him they would have to kill the baby Dragon and have him drink the blood. Secondly the beam of energy hit Reptile who is in fact a Dragon like creature so between coming out of a Dragon Egg and using Reptiles body as a host or using his essence i believe he is now a Dragon of some sort. What i think is that he used to be human 10000 years ago or however long it was when he ruled. But upon being revived he was transformed. I don't think the DK is human at all half at most. I honestly still believe its Reptile but these therories are going off of what you guys have said.
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06/16/2004 04:40 PM (UTC)
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ToAsT: They never stated that Shao Kahn was dead, the figure of his helmet with blood doesn't implies it, and in no story so far in MK:DA they stated the emperor was dead, they say he was ambushed and defeated.

Scorpion15152004: I think DK and repitle are related, but where is the proof that the DK is a Zaterran? where is our source?

Finally we didn't state that he is a human, we said he was a humanoid , this refers to any life form resembling a human form, in other words, two arms and two legs or something like the structure of a humaan being, Reptile is a Zaterran lizard, but he is humanoid thos.

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06/16/2004 04:59 PM (UTC)
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1)If he was the former ruler of the outworld, before Shao Kahn, this means both of the may know eachother, but the question here is, were they allies, enemies, or Kahn was one of his servants.

I think the Dragon King was a looooong time ago, seeing as his old temple is being devoured by a desert (it takes some time to do that). I don't think they would've been allies, especially not if Kahn was power hungry.

2) How did Kah narouse into power after his death, and knowing kahn about the prophecy, did he aid in the preservation of the Egg or he was against this prophecy to come true.

I don't think he knew about the Egg (if he even knew about the DK himself) otherwise he would surely have destroyed it. Those priests were apparently a very secret order.

3)How dide he died?, was he killed? by who?, and howcome all his entire army dissapeared and was mummyfied, this lets blanks in the Outworld making it easy to Conquer.....

I made a thread about this too a few months ago. Someone (can't remember who though) said that the DK died of old age en his Army ritually commited suicide so that they could be mummified and come back when the Dragon Egg had hatched.

4) Was he in alliance with any eld demons, as he was aloud to be preserved until his resurection.

Perhaps, but who says the old DK himself has been preserved in the egg? Maybe he just "injected" his powers into the embryo?

5) What is the relationship between The Dragon Egg and the dragon king himself, because as we can see, he is not a Dragon itself, he is a humanoid, (dont tell me that he is a blend of Dragon and Human because that'd mean he is a shokan)

Well, he isn't a dragon, but he isn't human either so he must be:
Zaterran

It would also explain why the egg hatched when Reptile walked into the Lava Chamber. The Egg sensing another one if it's race coming closer, decided to be reborn again.

6)Blaze was commande to preserve the egg and the chamber of the dragon as well, who commanded him? when? what is the quest he was on?

The priests captured him (MKII, the bridge, in the background) and forced him to guard the Egg. His quest; who know, in his ending he sets the Drum Arena on fire, so who know. Maybe he had a vendetta with one of the drummers? wink


7)What will be the relationship of the dragon king now newly reborn with the evil cahracters,

I think Quan Chi and Shang Tsung might offer their loyalty to him under the guise of "we ressurected the army for your return, O mighty Dragon King." However, if they fail to deceive him (because obviously they'll try to kill him) then they'll flee and hide.

8)How do you think the "Reptile is the Dragon King" Rumor will be cleared.

Reptiles body becomes even more twisted and deformer, but he doesn't turn into the Dragon King. He has now become the DK's body guard and he'll probably be the sub-boss. The power that went through him has made him even deadlier en ferocious then he already was.
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06/16/2004 05:11 PM (UTC)
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Wow Deadhead, excellent ideas, many of the might have some sort of good basis, but i will have to disagree with the idea of the Dragon King being a Zaterra, as only reptile and Khameleon are supposed to be, and well, the Dragon King doesn't looks that zaterran to me,as for the DK and the Egg i thinnk there must be some kind of relationship, not with the Embryo directly but with the prohpecy that states he will return upon the birth of the last dragon egg, myabe the dragon inside is the su boss named chimera!!!!!! who knows????
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06/16/2004 05:20 PM (UTC)
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How can you say the DK dosen't look zaterran? We only have 2 pics of him one where he looks very much like a zaterran. (Raidens MK:DA ending) then we have the one pic which i think is going be the box art for MK:D which has him wearing a horned helm and armor. Only thing that can be confirmed from that pic is that he's humaniod and has red glowing eyes which would fit in well with being a zaterran. In Raidens ending when hes talking about the DK it shows a pic of him which looks like a buffed out Reptile.
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06/16/2004 05:31 PM (UTC)
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well bro, how can you say he looks zaterran if we only know their looks by Reptiles, and i dont think all zaterrans are like that as not all the humans are, lol, even tho that'd be confirmed soon
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06/16/2004 06:11 PM (UTC)
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The picture in Raidens MK:DA ending was picture of the Dragon King and all the zaterrans have to look some what alike their are the same species while all humans aren't identical well all have the same basic structure
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06/16/2004 06:18 PM (UTC)
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indeed but why do you state he must be a zaterran, there is no proof he is, just because reptile is the vessel that doesn't menas he is, what if Nitara was the vessel, will he be a vampire NO!!. Anyways cheers.
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06/16/2004 07:40 PM (UTC)
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Well, Mk_FrEak, you said it yourself, he can't be half-human half-dragon because then he would be a Shokan. He hasn't got four arms so he can't be one anyway.

He isn't human, unless you know somebody who has huge horns coming out of their forehead.

He isn't a vampire (vampire look a lot more human)

He isn't a centaur (no horse body)

He could be an Oni

He could be a Demon

However, the reason why I think that he is Zaterran is because of the fact that:
a) He's a Dragon (or atleast some kind of reptile)
b) He has a reptillian skin
c) Demons don't lay eggs

I think the Dragon King looks like what Reptile would have become eventually.
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06/16/2004 07:45 PM (UTC)
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indeed those are some good pointers, again i didnt say he was human, let me analyse a little bit more the pics and ill tell y ou.

PS: How is that that demons dont lay eggs?
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06/16/2004 07:51 PM (UTC)
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Mk_FrEaK Wrote:
ToAsT: They never stated that Shao Kahn was dead, the figure of his helmet with blood doesn't implies it, and in no story so far in MK:DA they stated the emperor was dead, they say he was ambushed and defeated.

Scorpion15152004: I think DK and repitle are related, but where is the proof that the DK is a Zaterran? where is our source?

Finally we didn't state that he is a human, we said he was a humanoid , this refers to any life form resembling a human form, in other words, two arms and two legs or something like the structure of a humaan being, Reptile is a Zaterran lizard, but he is humanoid thos.

Thanx for the comments



in reptile's konquest in deadly alliance, it said he found kahn's body on the floor of his palace
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06/16/2004 07:52 PM (UTC)
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Mk_FrEaK Wrote:
ToAsT: They never stated that Shao Kahn was dead, the figure of his helmet with blood doesn't implies it, and in no story so far in MK:DA they stated the emperor was dead, they say he was ambushed and defeated.

Scorpion15152004: I think DK and repitle are related, but where is the proof that the DK is a Zaterran? where is our source?

Finally we didn't state that he is a human, we said he was a humanoid , this refers to any life form resembling a human form, in other words, two arms and two legs or something like the structure of a humaan being, Reptile is a Zaterran lizard, but he is humanoid thos.

Thanx for the comments



in reptile's konquest in deadly alliance, it said he found kahn's body on the floor of his palace
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06/16/2004 08:16 PM (UTC)
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ToAsT Wrote:

Mk_FrEaK Wrote:
ToAsT: They never stated that Shao Kahn was dead, the figure of his helmet with blood doesn't implies it, and in no story so far in MK:DA they stated the emperor was dead, they say he was ambushed and defeated.

Scorpion15152004: I think DK and repitle are related, but where is the proof that the DK is a Zaterran? where is our source?

Finally we didn't state that he is a human, we said he was a humanoid , this refers to any life form resembling a human form, in other words, two arms and two legs or something like the structure of a humaan being, Reptile is a Zaterran lizard, but he is humanoid thos.

Thanx for the comments



in reptile's konquest in deadly alliance, it said he found kahn's body on the floor of his palace


That still doesnt mean a thing. That could have been a decoy. I dont think Kahn would be ignorant or foolish enough to sit and wait around on his throne for possible assasination attempts when his kingdom is falling apart his power was diminishing, and his armies being defeated. He had to many enemies at the time of his "death". But again, it did say in MKDA Konquest that when Chi and Tsung sprung their attack Kano saw a great display of magic and that Kahn almost defeated them both but was ultimatley to weak to coninue his assualt from his previous failures. Only someone as powerful as Kahn can take on two of the most powerful free roaming sorcerers at once, in a surprise attack nonetheless... If he did indeed die, do you actually think that would still stop someone as powerful as Shao Kahn? He wasnt Emperor for nothing. He had to have certain aspects and abilities in where he was untouchable, in skill and power. He can easily return from the Netherealm more powerful than ever somehow. He brought created a being out of countless of warrior souls. Brought back Sindel from the dead under his vision. Enslaved countless realms and slaughtered mostly all of their inhabitants and abosrbed them into one giant wasteland. He also did something that not even a fallen elder God or anyone else has done... he took over Earth, as brief as it was. It took most if not all of the Earth warriors to defeat him, Kang did not beat him solely. How many times has death actually meant something in MK?? Or he could have survived that very attack if it was indeed him on the throne. Boon himself said that we havent seen the last of Kahn and that he was too powerful of an entity to keep down and out that easily... Kahn aint dead my friend, I can assure you of that. He will return some form or another.
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06/16/2004 08:19 PM (UTC)
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I agree with MKFrEaK. Just because Reptile was the vessel for the Dragon Kings reviaval, it does not make the Dragon King a Zaterran.

He might be reptilian if he is a dragon, but being reptilian doesn't make him Zaterran. And he doesn't have to be a dragon. The name is probably just a title.

And if he is a humanoid, being aprt dragon does not render him a Shokan. he could be a demon in human form likem Shang Tsung. he was trapped in an egg. The egg doesn't necessarily have to have been laid by any creature for it top exist. It could have been created.
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06/16/2004 08:28 PM (UTC)
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The Dragon King most certainly has to be a humanoid.... Judging from the recent photos of him, it looks like a human like being under a helmet. He has to be part dragon due to his giant dragon like wings.
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