Yep. I'll back you up. I was watching the videos and from pictures and stuff I saw that Sub-Zero had the fighting styles Pi Gua, Gojuryu, and Kori Blade. Well GUESS WHAT!? In those IGN videos, Hotaru has Pi Gua and Gojuryu too!! WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!! lol

Great post, Ninja Arts. It's nice to see a user who actually provides backup and evidence for his side of an arguement.

But unfortunately, past issues have taught us that people only see what they want to see. If someone truly wants Skab's undead design to be Noob, then they'll believe that until the very last straw has been plucked. But your evidence is pretty strong. They may flame ya, but they can't do shit to your argument.

When was Skab confirmed?

I thought he was just an april fools joke from the German Magazine.I don't remember the MK Team officialy confirming him.I guess I could be wrong though.

i also forgot to add this...

Perhaps you are sick of it. A lot of us are tired of it as well. But Ninja_Arts has some valid points, which in my opinion, demolish any evidence there ever may have been of Skab being Noob. I think this had to be said, and one can't worry about offending others by stating what he believes is the correct.

If he can defend it, he should post it.

KenshiMaster16 Wrote: Yep. I'll back you up. I was watching the videos and from pictures and stuff I saw that Sub-Zero had the fighting styles Pi Gua, Gojuryu, and Kori Blade. Well GUESS WHAT!? In those IGN videos, Hotaru has Pi Gua and Gojuryu too!! WHAT A COINCIDENCE!!! lol

Thats right, and now Subby is back to Shotokan and Dragon styles. Fighting styles dont mean crap right now when trying to figure out characters.

Let me start off by saying styles/names don't mean anything since it's early developement.Looks also don't mean anything since looks can change.But the source of the information DOES mean something.Skab was confirmed in the German PSM magazine.Midway CONFIRMED that some of the German PSM Magazines's info was false.So as of now I don't believe Skab exists.I believe he was just some April Fool's joke in the German PSM.I'll believe Skab is a character when the MK Team confirms him.He does look cool though,and I hope he IS a new character with some cool moves and a cool story.

TemperaryUserName Wrote: Great post, Ninja Arts. It's nice to see a user who actually provides backup and evidence for his side of an arguement.

*rolls eyes* right...cuz we all know i never posted any pics to help support my opinion. and you actually wonder why i dislike you. but you said it best...people will see what they wanna see. you wanna see skab so you see it. i wanna see common sense so i see it. and speaking of backing up what people say...still waiting for those pics showing skab in alleged 2 different outfits.

here is where you are wrong, einstein;

in the classic pic that all you skab lickers love to quote of ermac on screen with his name in the lifebar but with sub's pic, there is a big difference in the german trailer for noob.

it shows noob in his black leather outfit with the name noob in the lifebar and a pic of a hooded/rotted face below. next we see the name noob in the lifebar, a guy in black/maroon with the same pic of the hooded rotted face. why would they put noob's name in the lifebar if it is skab even if it is early development. in the pic you quote from, it has ermac in the lifebar, ermac on screen but sub's pic in the lifebar.

the one thing we do agree on is you cant rely on stances because they are used all the time by many fighters. stances are never what i use to back my belief that noob is skab.

Yeah but YOU have no proof that the clip we saw in the trailer wasn't made months ago or weeks before the trailer was released. You have NO proof what-so-ever of when that footage was made. For all we know, that could have been one of the first couple fights they worked on tweeking. There could be an easy explination for that. They wanted to see if during the fight the pictures of the characters and the names looked right during the fight with the "character in question". So lets say for instance which could be true, developers didn't have Skab's picture and name loaded up yet, so they used Noob's stuff as a replacement. (Hence the Sub-Zero/Ermac mix-up) No one can prove a damn thing because there are logical explinations for both sides of this argument. I just find it kind of gay how they would make up a charcters name. And don't bring up Ken because that was a misunderstanding for the real character Ben. And plus, Noob Saibot was confirmed way before Skab was, so it would be really, REALLY stupid of them to comfirm a character who just has a different costume twice. Everyone thought "Ken" was a joke, until Ben showed up. Thats why I won't be the least bit surprised if that REALLY is Skab. I mean, that crap is just like saying, "Oh yeah, Raiden's alternate in DA is really Fujin's new look!" LOL It makes no sense!!!

the german trailer is my proof for me. it is the proof i choose to believe is a common-sense likelihood that skab is noob.

anyhoo what you are saying is even though they have enough time to make a face pic of skab to put under noob's lifebar they did not have enough time to take yellow text to put skab in the lifebar...

what are the odds.

Good come back. Ooooooooooo (Shaking) LOL. What I said sort of makes more sense. It all depends on if they were testing it for mistakes or just trying it out because they were finished (i.e. yeah right, it's only march/april since that was done). Anyways, yeah, that really explains why they didn't have the characters names and lifebars in earlier pics. Afterall, like you say, it doesn't take much to type it a few letters.

Here's something interesting that will BLOW you away. "The version of Mortal Kombat: Deception that will be shown at E3 will contain 12 characters--essentially half of the game's main roster. Currently playable characters include Scorpion, Baraka, Mileena, Sub Zero, Sindel, Bo Rai Cho, Nightwolf, Hotaro, Ermac, Li Mei, Ashrah, and Kenshi." ~taken from Gamespot~

Wow, look, what a surprise, no Noob. Hmmm, but I thought ya'll were trying to argue that he has his 3 costumes already AND his own unique fighting stances. Hmmmm, if that was true, don't you think he'd probably be playable since he was one of the first confirmed??? Maybe there is a Skab afterall.

When early footage of MK:DA was shown it showed Shang Tsung with a staff and well as Scorpion with the snake fighting style

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2002/e32002/xbox/mk/mk_screen004.jpg

they're probably just testing each fighting style with every character to see who suits what the best, there's still a few months of development left so anything you see now is all subject to change!

You know what.

No matter what "PROOF" I give, you assholes will tear it apart and say "That's not true." Which is True. You'll post a screen of Skab falling, with a Noob Lifebar with Skab's picture. But in the end, when you know damn well I'm right, you won't admitt it. The styles, and characters shown in the Game Demo in e3 are not the early development vids from last two-3 months. Unfortunately.

Noob doesn't appear because they don't want him revealed. Skab was not shown because they don't want him revealed. The original Character roster we were shown is alittle off. Here you go:

DA:
Scorpion
Sub Zero
Li Mei
Bo Rai Cho
Kenshi
Jax
(that's 6.)

Classics:
Smoke
Noob
Tanya
Baraka
Sindel
Mileena
Liu Kang
(Don't remember.) The last one.

Newbies:
Skab
Ashrah
Dairou
Hotaru
Ben
Who else?

Skab is not Noob. Let's wait and find this out. Because in the end when you're wrong, you won't even admitt it. Konqrr, back me up here.

You forgot Ermac, Nightwolf, Kabal and Kira, bud! LOL

Ninja_Arts Wrote: You know what. No matter what "PROOF" I give, you assholes will tear it apart and say "That's not true." Which is True. You'll post a screen of Skab falling, with a Noob Lifebar with Skab's picture. But in the end, when you know damn well I'm right, you won't admitt it. The styles, and characters shown in the Game Demo in e3 are not the early development vids from last two-3 months. Unfortunately. Noob doesn't appear because they don't want him revealed. Skab was not shown because they don't want him revealed. The original Character roster we were shown is alittle off. Here you go: DA: Scorpion Sub Zero Li Mei Bo Rai Cho Kenshi Jax (that's 6.) Classics: Smoke Noob Tanya Baraka Sindel Mileena Liu Kang (Don't remember.) The last one. Newbies: Skab Ashrah Dairou Hotaru Ben Who else? Skab is not Noob. Let's wait and find this out. Because in the end when you're wrong, you won't even admitt it. Konqrr, back me up here.

does your mom know you are on the net? what is funny is you speak as if you are a midway employee. skab could be skab, skab could be noob. odds are in favor of skab being noob since only a german mag which midway has said info from that mag is wrong, is the only source that has ever mentioned skab. intriguing that no one is willing to consider that since ken masters was wrong, skab could be wrong. and yet again i agree stances do not confirm a character as they are changed all the time.

First off, smartass, I'm 17 years of Age, and I don't talk like I'm a member of Midway's Team. Now, Asshole, Before we get personal, I'd say "Does your mother know...Oops, My bad, I'm fuckin that fat bitch." But instead of being an immature asshole, like yourself, I won't. Don't reply to the above comments.

Anyhow, since you agreed with me on the Style switch, that leaves two options open.
o) Noob's bloodied eyes in the Render/ In game shot.
Now, as I explained before EVERY fighter will have those, as in the last Mortal Kombat installment. The bloodied eyes are a basic facial change due to damage inflicted upon an opponent.
As for Skab's face matching the icon on Noob's name bar, or maybe why it says Noob is simple. The Character Skab was going to be used for Noob's model, but was changed, simply to make it an individual Character. Now it's already been specified that the characters will have 2 costumes. Both of Noob Saibot's costumes were revealed to us.

The second option...
o) The German magazine could have been wrong, saying the wrong character.
Remember translations and magazines don't always print everything perfect. We may not have "Ken" but we got..."Ben." now that was correct, OR identical. They also said Cobra would be featured, which he has been. Another character mentioned was Smoke, although not pictured, He HAS been confirmed to be in the game as of now. Looks like the magazine was right, there kid.

Now before you come back with any smart ass comments, hear me out, Look through my information, It's elaborately thought through, and the information is all there. Tell me one reason WHY, in the newer ones, when Noob was fighting Sub Zero in the grinder level did they not show life bars, when SKAB appeared to be fighting BEN, yet, no lifebars. Although the faces match up, I remember many MESS ups during the DA development period. Reptile didn't even have a name on his life bar, or an icon.

There...

Ninja_Arts and Humulis, knock it off. Have a little more maturity to have a decent discussion without calling each other names. If you don't want this thread closed, stop flaming each other. You can argue but you cannot call people names and disrespect them.

NinjaArts: NO IM RIGHT YOU ASSHOLE!
Humlus: NO I AM YOU GAYLORD!
NinjaArts: NO IM RIGHT BECAUSE EVERYTHINGS EARLY DEVELOPMENT YOU SHIT LICKER!
Humilus: LOOK AT THE GERMAN MAG VIDEO YOU BITCHFACE!
NinjaArts: IM FUCKING RIGHT MAN, FUCK YOU ASSHOLE SHIT FUCK BITCH HALKSAJDSAHDROXXORS!!?!?!!

...seriously, who gives a fuck?

Hey Suit, there's no need to be cursing or calling other users names. If you get offended by someone's comments, just tell a Mod about it if you think you can't handle it in a mature way.
Please edit your post and try to calm down a little.

Peace.

Okay, first and foremost, if this next statement comes across to you as a flame, I apologize, and I would ask that you take your complaints about this statement to a PM directed to me.

The only thing Ninja_Arts is guilty of is stating his own opinion, and reasons he feels are valid enough to back them up. What I have a problem with is flaming people for that very reason, and people trying (and failing miserably, I might add) to contradict confirmed facts! I have a VERY low tolerance for both. I have had to butt into such an argument before and make this same statement! And personally, I really do not think he deserved that skull. All he was trying to do is defend himself against flames directed to him. I should know because I was faced with that same situation one time on the Classic MK Games Discussion. However, the mods have spoken, so be it! Those who instigated the flame war, and those who are continuing it, please cease and desist. You are not making it any better; you're only making it worse.

Ninja_Arts Wrote: Well, Recently I've been reading the new posts on how Skab is Noob. Here are the reasons they gave. The Lifebar from the past vid had Noob on it, and Skab was fighting, although SubZero's picture was under Ermac's lifebar. EARLY developement. Noob's eyes were bloodied,as are Skab's. At the end of each round, If the character is beat up enough, then Their eyes will be bloodied,if you remember MK DA. Noob, and Skab both have Gojuryu as fighting Styles. Well, No shit. Early Developement, but if you haven't noticed, in the new ign clips, ERMAC does too! OMG does that make Ermac-Skab too? Or is Ermac Noob Saibot? Hm...You guys need to understand the character in that render with the flesh hanging off his cheeks, was SKAB. NOT NOOB. My rant is done.

Those are all very good points you made.But the only reason I doubt Skab is a real fighter is because he was only mentioned in the German magazine and Midway confirmed some of the magazines info was false.So right now I don't believe Skab is an actual character.If he is he better have some good moves and a good story since his look is very unoriginal.

I won't take any sides in this argument,I'll just wait until the MK Team tells us if Skab is a character or not.