From what I have seen on the vids noobed was playing legit all the way til the Bo match. And boy did I see a shitload of free grab, b1 and free combo from Dave.

Don't get me wrong Dave, your Dairou is excellent...but why go to Bo with the skills you have with Dairou?

Even after those matches I didn't see a free throw. If he got provoked then I don't see any problem with it...fight fire with fire.

On the beginning matches noobed straight up owned Dave with an unbroken character (Kabal). And isn't Kabal lower on the tier list than Kobra and Scorpion? It was all skills, same goes for the rest of the round.

Kabal Vs. Dairou is considered a slight mismatch for Dairou.So,Noobe is allowed to pick a counter character,but when I do it,it's considered wrong?It's easier to beat Kabal with BRC than it is with Dairou.That's why I did it.Hell,even Noobe kept on picking Kabal as long as it worked for him,then he switched to N/S.

Fight fire with fire?No.For the 10000000th time...

f+3 into a throw is a glitch,but everything after that is either a combo or a 50/50 mix up.

Smoke's Throw, f,f+3, d,b+2, d+1, b+1 into walk up,side step,free throw is an infinite combo because you can repeat the same process.And it doesn't even matter if you do a normal combo after the second throw,you're still the perpetrator of a partial infinite combo.

People,face it and realize it.Bo is a legit character logically speaking and he's the best without any infinite combos.Do NOT infinite Bo players just because you can't beat them.Take your loss and accept it.I know his 50/50 mix ups are gay,but deal with it.

I did lose with Scorpion,Kobra and Darrius.They're NOT much better than Kabal than you think they are (especially Scorpion and Kobra).I would have needed to get into the mood of playing them and figure out his style to make him predictable,but I didn't have time doing that,espcially with a shit-talking,scrub that Noobe is.

Your right about th whole Kabal thing. I wouldn't say that Noobe OWNED him, per say, but he definatey did whoop him a few times.

However, your forget the fact that Noobe is KNOWN throughout the XBOX and PS2 community to have the "best" Noob-Smoke.

No matter HOW MUCH it may piss you off, when someone picks the BoFag on you, thats NOT cheating. See, most people seem to forget that EVERY character has free throws, but Bo Rai Cho's was only found MONTHS before everyone elses.

Just because you pick BRC does NOT mean that the person who chose him is cheating. After the F+3 / Throw, I never ONCE saw Dave even so much as TRY to do the 50% combos afterwards.

However, I pointed it out that in exactly 9 seperate rounds, the 'great' Noobe decides to start abusing every glitch that he can find, using infinates, semi-infinates, and then suddenly everyone is just OK with this, simply because Dave used BRC??

What the hell is this board coming to? Listen people, in tournaments, BRC would be allowed to play. his INFINATES would be banned. But the character would be allowed to play, so why all the static when hes used?

Just because Dave chose BRC means that it's ok to start abusing glitches and infinates?

Fine, f it then, I'm going to go back to my old ways and see how everyone likes it.

I just don't want to hear a word from anyone, since glitch abuse, semi and full infinate combos are "ok" and "perfectly legit".

BEING that they are "ok", and "perfectly legit", I don't want to hear so much as a peep from ANYONE when I do it to them. Literally.

Not a f'n peep, people. We'll see how "ok" and how "legit" those tactics are when they're used against you.

Bo has a free pop up after f3+throw with b1. This pops the opponent up and you get a choice of free combos. Yeah, you can still break it, but I did see a b1 after the throw...this is not a 50/50. This is the only time I saw Dave cheese and he was the FIRST one to do it.

I haven't seen all the vids but I did notice that with Kabal, he did not cheat. I'm going to finish watching all the vids tonight and I do agree that any partial infinite, infinite should not be done at all...but out of retaliation, I say go for it.

If noobed kept doing the infinites, than that is not right on his part...if he did it just on the rounds that Dave cheesed (Bo) that he's just doing it out of desperation.

DoomsDay, don't let a few 'words of fact' change you man.

Either way, both of you guys are very skilled in this game, no need to be at each others throat and act like 5 year olds all the time because of a game.

Finished watching the vids.

I agree with the majority here, there were partial infinites when Dave didn't cheese at all with Dairou. I really don't think Dairou is much of a broken character so there should be no reason to do partial infinites.

But I will keep my words on the matches with Kabal, the kid is good, knows what he's doing...and the infinites should have been done on the Bo' matches as Dave used free throws and free combos after that.

Anyhow, partial infinites, infinites, free throws suck and should not be used what so ever.

And dayum it DoomsDay, I still can't get the whole side step free throw to work

I guess I'll just let the bo fags cheese me and win LOL.

kabal has a glitch online where when both players trade off hits, he still gets his spin, plus 60. a true trade off is where both chracters fall at the same time, instead of one getting an advantage like that, offline he still sucks, so its fine if you use him in a tourny, youll lose.

dave is not a skilled player
Even me i can do his dairou style
M2dave come to xbox live
we will play 24 games
all whith 24 guys
I will show you, some skills
I can beat evrybody on xbox live
whith random
Your scorpion,kobra,darrius= not skilled
only your darriou is ok, evrybody can do that
firebsll, tomstone, fireball, teleport
tomstone
i mean common..............
See the fact
You suck bad
Ok if somebody got the xbox live and can record video tell me i will show you some skills whith all 24 guys, no cheese you will see dave, what is skill i can play a good kenshi then swicht to sub-zero then swicht to li mei

kabal "trade off" isnt a glitch. only way to beat raging flash is to attack him with your weapon or hit him with a spiral pop-up attack. spiral pop-up attacks such as raiden jujutsu d+2, bo'rai cho jojutsu b+2, etc. as i said before, i've studied the dynamics of the game thoroughly, spiral pop-up has recovery time equal to that of a connected raging flash.

in video 55 streamed to 0:53, noobe is clearly doing an infinite. he was even fully aware. if you resort to infinites you are a scrub that ranks amongst the other worthless infinite users such as WM-ERMAC.

Blah Blah Blah Blah. I dont care what any of u bo fags or super scrubs on here think of my game play i decided to have some fun by cheesing him the way he cheesed me (as u scrubs say it). All of u cant be me even if i didnt use umm partial infinites as u call it. My 50/50 game was owning every single one of u from the get go its even worse now. A famous qoute from the fag yayo oh my god noobe when i play against u 50/50 game turns into 75/25 in ur favor. This is when i gave him a taste of his own fat boy when i picked brc and raped him with his supposed skilled character. I used the character ten minutes and he got destroyed. Anyone tries to pick any of my 3 main characters against me and they just get owned every single time even if u mirror match me. Plain and simple first and last time ive ever abused free grabs on anyone just wanted to return the favor and show ur sorry ass how much skill u have with the abuse of one move. If u look at any of the xbox live matches im going to be putting up i dont free grab anyone not even once with N/S. It doesnt matter to me im having so much fun destroying all of u pathetic scrubs on here that are always thinking they can own me when in part u just get owned time and time again. Oh yea and tell me that oh the game is broken this and that oh well shows how much of any skill u have if u cant win in a game that already helps u out. Plain and simple Yayo u suck dave u suck because u whine too much and doomsday oh doomsday saying u suck would be a definite understatement the only group of players that ever bore me in a match that i start going to get something from my other room and get back are newbies. To even think that u have a character anywhere as good as mine is just a flat out insult. The truth u dont suck ur just plain garbage and lonely at that why would u even worry examining all of these matches that doesnt even concern u? Wow i can tell u need to do something else with ur time like go outside and see day light. Plain and simple dave i own u and u know it. I even proved it to u the day after when i destroyed ur dairou 3-0 with N/S and not one free grab in sight i even made sure of it. I gave u sometime when i give a person time to think on my 50/50 games then u cant see me. Ill even go another fifty matches with ur sorry ass again and ill still own u plain and simple i adjust ur preprogrammed thats why u cant win against me. Soo uuum whenever u ready for those matches again uum let me know when ur going to be on ps2 ill own u sure no problem. And yayo read the sig its just a matter of time.

i read about the first 2 sentences in ur post and almost threw up. that shit is foul. you have never owned me when its a straight up 50/50 game. that 5-3 bo vs bo match was in your favour but you didnt own me as bad as you say you did, last 2 rounds i won and you ran. why say no to rematch if you were supposedly owning me??

just remember son, way before you figured out all the n/s free throws i owned you for free. yeah, dont deny it you lil fag, i even gave you props that one time for coming close to beating me. "you made me work up a sweat" - YAYO. you aint shit without your infinites. ask smokbabe, she was there when i handed you your ass, you kept quiet in the chatroom.

when we do play, it wont be bo'rai cho vs noob-smoke, no no no, we already seen all your scrubby infinites. it'll be old school mk3 battle, kabal vs nightwolf. get your bitch ready cuz im gonna show the world how much of a shitty player you are when n/s aint around. no infinites = you lose. just like how it was before.

matter of time for what? haha dude the only way you ever posed as a threat to me is when you got n/s doing infinites all day. when it comes down to straight up free throw only just picture the matches we had when yayo/noobe beef started. i won every single series we had before you started infin'. i even remember beating you and crkfiend in the same day, both of yall had high ranked names till i drained it and showed moe. if i remember correctly your NOOBE id went from 30-40 to 100's.

Lmao nightwolf u sorry scrub please there no point in going back and fourth with a constant liar so unless ur going to show up just shut up.

liar? why would i need to lie? i have drained your noobe id in the past beyond repair, i topped you 5 wins and showed moe my rank 14 id, then i told him to check where you were at on the leaderboard. you were around 90-100.

what would i lie about? you want to deny all those times i've owned you in the past? you want to go ahead and say you've never faced me all those time? dude i seriously think you should go ahead and join the Scrub Mentality clan cuz obviously, you feel inferior that you have to deny everyone whos ever beaten the crap outta you.

you feel the need to resort to infinites, then have the audacity to actually post your videos showing proof that you indeed use infinites. you must be fuckin stupid. if anyone is a liar, its you son.

and for the record bo'rai cho is legit, if you feel the need to whine and complain about a stick hit thats not even 100% safe and not even half screen maybe ill start calling you CRYNOOBE.

unless you want to admit your faults and admit who is truly the better player, your grave will be The Slaughterhouse.

Bo has a free pop up after f3+throw with b1. This pops the opponent up and you get a choice of free combos. Yeah, you can still break it, but I did see a b1 after the throw...this is not a 50/50. This is the only time I saw Dave cheese and he was the FIRST one to do it.

f+3 into free throw into b+1 is an infinite combo.How?After b+1,the combo ends.Come on,man.Face the truth.BRC doesn't have any unbreakable infinite combos,or any infinite combos for that matter,after his throw.He simply does NOT.If he did,BRC would be the most dangerous character with infinite combos,but he's not.N/S is for a reason.

dave is not a skilled player
Even me i can do his dairou style
M2dave come to xbox live
we will play 24 games
all whith 24 guys
I will show you, some skills
I can beat evrybody on xbox live
whith random
Your scorpion,kobra,darrius= not skilled
only your darriou is ok, evrybody can do that
firebsll, tomstone, fireball, teleport
tomstone
i mean common..............
See the fact
You suck bad
Ok if somebody got the xbox live and can record video tell me i will show you some skills whith all 24 guys, no cheese you will see dave, what is skill i can play a good kenshi then swicht to sub-zero then swicht to li mei

Dude,who the fuck are you?Stop talking shit to me before I bitch slap you.Go back to the X-Box forum and shut the fuck up and leave me alone.

And the drama continues! Guys, you need to stop this arguing and flaming on the boards! It's getting ridiculous! The game is really not worth it.

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