Yes, it is definitely more fun. I am a combo fan. Without 3 stances this game lost a lot of hope for me. Then 33 came around and I was totally back into this game again. You have to time it correctly for fun/hard combos. I try to do 33 off anything possible! I did a combo online a couple nights ago using Noob. The guy was turtling, yet he was standing still. I through out a black hole, he held block, I through stars at him. The stars pushed him into the black hole. It is extremely hard to time this one I can rarely pull it off. Catch the person on the way down from the Black Hole, 33,33,33 4, 33,33,33 21, 211CS 90%ish combo. The person was nice enough not to use a breaker on me. Im sure he was very intrigued by the combo as well. It felt good and looked good. I love SubZero and Noob in this game. PC's are very fun to. Can sweep someone with Ashrah for instance from a nice distance away. I swear I would have put this game down about 3 months ago and never picked it up if I didn't start trying this stuff. Its soo much more fun and for me leads to better games and again much more FUN!

Damn it Quest! 90%?

See, that's exactly why I hate 33s. So if that was a really close battle and you're in the third round and all breakers are gone; that means whoever makes the first move gets the win... 90% damage straight, no questions asked! Isn't that as good as infinity?

I know it's fun and all, but should it really be part of online game play?

Trax

hah, I wish it was part of both online and offline play. Naa not an infinity at all. Breakable indeed and is it easy to screw up? Sure is.. I hear your point though. May the better man get that last hit in sooner or save breakers!

well, i would say it's a reward for pulling off something that's quite difficult to do.

look at it this way:

pulling that off on a 'scrubbish' player, you would see "opponent quit"

pulling that off on a comrade from the community, you would hear and see "THAT WAS AWESOME"

It's also a reward for getting the guy to use up his breakers early. my strategy revolves around eating those breakers as fast as i can so i can "give 'em a show" in the last round .

A reward, YES! But a good show? I think that's a very bad show for the guy on the end of it.

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I guess the key is not to abuse it. If I was playing a serious series and someone is constantly trying to pull off some 33 shit without have a broader game to admire, then I would think to myself, 'Gess, what is this guy doing?'. But if I see an all round great play, that's when I hold my hands up and say... "ummm, good shit dude!"

lol, trax
That is like saying me and you get into a fight. You win right, fuck yeah that show sucks on my end.

@Eazy
I love how you play with everything available.

the only problem with 33s are they dont reduce the damage after each one, or at least one of them, likje acs do

other then that, its all good, every single character had 60 70 80 etc in mkd. and it made the game more competitive

i heard you complain about a 70% havik in mka

what about his 75% in mkd?

B2, cs, 112cs, ss, throw, cs, cs, 112cs

this is the same for every character, and helps the few characters who didnt have that little extra damage from mkd.

im staying out of this topic, my advice to you is:

you say you respect what it is i do, then i suggest you practice what you preach. because i sure as hell dont knock you for not trying them, i respect it. rather then make threads about it. its your choice, so is mine. when i play, i wouldnt 33 you. end of story, anyone who is 33ing you shouldnt be. because thats respect.

but dont knock someone for doing something you can do right back, and they wont say anything about it. nor should they, because theyve already made up their minds about it, and you, or this thread, or europe, is never going to change that.


again, the first line in your post sort of reveals the angle you were going for here, i suggest you just deal with it, and dont play people who use it.



i <3 eazytobeat ( one day dude, we are playing the roster )

and other then a pop up, what else you 33ing off of? staright up legit, 2 relaunches, acs offline are 6 hits. its balanced, im out of here, happy bday me

later

Thanks for your input, Check. I know how passionate you are on these issues.

I'm not like a 33 hater or anything like that. But I hate those who need 33s to win a game knowing damn well you can't learn much from their play. I have the same respect or lack of it for that player just like I do for KAK users. Do you get what I mean?

To explain it further, I've seen eazy use 33s but I won't complain about it because first of all he doesn't try the 100% 33 BS. Same thing when I saw your video with Versa (Scorpion and Sereena). So I guess if someone is going to use 33s and shit at least try and have better all round game to go with it rather than just focusing on getting maximum damage through poppin up and down.

ok lets clear this up, very bery rarely can u do both 33s and ACs on someone. its either one or the other, depending on connection.

so all u do is get 50% damge, big deal. havik is an exception cause u can land his free throw from a juggle, and his throw relaunches. but haviks 33 is not an easy one to pull off. think what u want but 33 takes skill, u dont just jump and hit 33. you have to no how to space the first 3 and 2nd 3. and each characters hit box for 33 is different. u also have to no what stance to use. using 33 takes skill just like deep kicks.

if im using ermac of coarse im not going to use 33.

scopion even though he has nice damage off it, im going to be safe and use his unbreakable, instead of takea chance with his hard to time 33.

lao and kira , no brainer, 33 all day long same for havik, brc, sonya, kabla.

I know everyone has a different style, but FTR Kabal doesn't need 33 to win in his game, I just turtle, 50/50 all day with U+2 and 4, bait and let people come to me.It works and it's really difficult for Kabal's opponent to get near you and do any damage.

I don't believe I've ever seen any Kabal's do 33 or attempt to do it to me online thus far.

One thing I've come to realize over time is that Lao isn't all that great without 33 and AC sadly...his weapon combos is so predictable and unless you miss the last hit low, you'll be alright most of the time.

His auto parry is annoying though at times I must admit, one time I remember I parried his auto parry lol it's a quick move though that's pretty damn safe also most of the time online.

I know I'm like the only person here that probably likes this idea but in MK4, I enjoyed the Max damage, too bad it wasn't in MKA.My opinion.

damnit, MKF and RED don't start going back and forth again.
I like both of yalls input, not watching you two kill threads.

lol, nobody is going back and forth man rest assured.I'm simply stating another way to win with Kabal, that's all.

MKA=UMK3's bitch, same goes with MKD so convert to UMK3 instead of worrying about glitches and stuff like this.

kabals 33 isnt worth it, i only try it off deep kick dash for the 71%.

for the most part ill just use 114, cause its safe, and can 50/50 off it.

it all depends imo. I dont use 33 in my game. However, I dont have a prob with peeps who do. Unless we get into the retarded range when you are looking at a combo in the 70% range. I mean whats the difference between that and my KAK.
The other thing is the overall skill of the player...if I feel that person could ONLY beat me if they used long string combos that rack above 50% then I am a bit pissed. However, I am not quitting...I am just going to step up my game. But if Eazy does a long combo its kinda like I cant get too upset...its not like I would have beat him anyway. Also I noticed that peeps like Eazy dont use the retarded 70% combos (at least against me) He uses combos that are high damage and frankly hard to pull off (too hard for me to do). So I tip my hat off him and others who pull it off. Also...maybe this just applies to my shitty connection..but I know that in some scenarios its dangerous for me to pull off an air combo...it doesnt all land and I end up it in a bad position...so therefore those guy who do this are taking a bit of a risk if the lag doesnt allow them to pull it off correctly.

You just hit the nail in the head with that post.

If 70% is pulled off due to a glitch then that's as good as using a KAK because both are broken. If you need 33s and other glitches to win, then I think you're lame. However, if you mix 33s with some real shit then I'll give you props.

The fact of the matter is, 33 unbalances the game which ever way you look at it. I'm not saying it doesn't require a certain level of skill but the fact that you pull it off and you get your wins doesn't make you a good player. That's my take!

what is 33s exactly anyway? even though MKA has plenty of glitches (a hell of alot less then MKD but still many) I still think its a pretty fun game to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zm1huIdQCY

Yes, MKA is damn fun without a doubt!

Trax

nooo way. MKA is sooo much more glitched out than MKD.

Well, it's as you initially said lori although MKD and MKA are loaded with glitches, UMK3 is just a so much better overall game because of balance and you won't be doing any 33 nonsense in that game for easy damage lol...