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posted04/23/2004 01:13 AM (UTC)by
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outworld222
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MK6 characters are perfect, the 3d technology is perfect, everything is perfect. Anybody who doesnt like it, really doesnt have a clue. MK5 and MK6 are perfect, and put all other fighting games into extreme shame. There I said it. Any comments are welcome.
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MajinTsung
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04/22/2004 08:18 PM (UTC)
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Obviously you are doing this to get attention. First off the graphics are not perfect. It was a PS2 port. The facial features were cheese and if you have played Ninja Gaiden you know what I mean. MKDA was a good game don't get me wrong, but it had some serious flaws. Unbreakable combos, stiff characters, slow fighting, most characters had the same voices (excluding Reptile, Moloch, Cyrax, and females(which were the same for the most part). Even if the game were ported to xbox the graphics wouldn't be perfect. Perfect would be the cinematic scenes in say (once again) Ninja Gaiden or take your pick of full rendered movie scenes in recent games. Even those could and will be better as games systems get better.
The counter system was cheese also. In DOA3 every character has a different set of counters, like four or five in some cases depending on how you direct the punch and how they attack you. The movement is more fluid and with more moves with one style(rather than three styles where two are almost identical in some cases) you have more freedom and 'mastering' a character takes longer, instead of memorizing a string of combos with one character... If MKD has three styles with far more moves, more fluid motion, better counters, more distinct voices per character, each character being more specifically different in their styles of fighting, along with ripped clothing and more realistic scarring(not totally realistic... impaling will most likely kill you in real life) and more balanced tactics/characters(stabbing an opponent and staying far away), and better special moves(the same charge or fireball moves)... then the system in its self and the graphics will make the game a gaming experience instead of just a kinda cool game...
The story in MKDA is superb compaired to that of any fighting game recently.
Three styles were cool, but in some ways entirely useless.
MKDA in no way blows all fighting games out of the water and hopefully MKD will blow all other fighting games out of the water.. later
Ditto ^^^
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outworld222
04/22/2004 08:24 PM (UTC)
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1) I stand by my statement that you dont have a clue. Ninja gaiden is such a new game, technology changes, move on with that story.

2) If I said it to get some attention, no doubt youre one of the types that is pushing for the x-box (hence you said ps2 port) and ninja gaiden obviously being an x-box game. I dont have to think very hard to know that you like x-box.

3) Despite how great you think DOA3 is, the fans have spoken, MK5 is the BETTER fighting game.
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04/22/2004 08:32 PM (UTC)
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Just because it was bought more doesn't mean it was a better fighting game. DOA3 is on one system. MKDA was on three(four if you count GBA), I know what the hell I am talking about if you read my post. Ninja Gaiden is a new game, but you said the graphics are perfect and Ninja Gaiden's graphics are leaps above MKDA and still aren't 'perfect'. Yes I have a xbox and not a PS2, but it still stands that PS2 is less powerful and if it were made for Xbox the graphics would be better, but even if it were made for only Xbox the graphics wouldn't be 'perfect'. And VF4 is hailed as one of the best fighting games and is on PS2 I think, so the quaility of the game isn't deemed by the graphics.
Also try to dispute one of the things I said in my previous post. DOA3 is a far deeper and more fun fighting game than DA, don't get my wrong, I play MKDA from time to time still, but I would rather play DOA3 against someone, because it takes more skill to be good at the game rather than remembering a long string of button combos. Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about. Back your statement up with some real evidence before you start spouting out idiocies again.
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outworld222
04/22/2004 08:39 PM (UTC)
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dont get mad because I nailed the point. Youre an x-box pusher, thats it. I backed my statements up. Can you please be more specific on what facts you want me to back up?
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04/22/2004 08:49 PM (UTC)
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What point? I am getting angry because you call me things that aren't true and with no evidence to back it up. You created this post to get responses as such most likely because people had valid points about the flaws in MKDA. If you are 100% happy with MKDA then you shouldn't be on this board because MKD will change that 'perfection' that you are ranting about. I am not a xbox pusher.. I have a gamecube and a dreamcast... I plan to buy RE4 and I don't care if it isn't on Xbox. Xbox does own in the graphics department when compared to PS2, but graphics don't make a game as I said before. You sir need to back up your points with valid proof or be forced to look like moron... if MKDA is perfect and owns all fighting games.. say why... is the the fatalities? Well seeing as there is one per person maybe not... is it the fighting system? Well if you played any fighting game made in the last two-three years(Mainly tekkengames, VF4, DOA3, SC2)... probally not. Is it the three styles system... that does give is an edge that the other games don't have, but not enough to 'blow all other games away' (notice I didn't say SC2 on Xbox is the shizzle because it has Spawn and is superior because its on Xbox the king of all systems... which I don't believe)... if the fans have spoken why haven't you addressed the three-four system vs. One system scenario I told you about when comparing DOA3? Because you have no evidence to back it up. You will call me a Xbox pusher and tell me that sales alone deem a game the best. Most people listen to rap, but I still think its one of the least talented musical arts out today.
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mangatropi
04/22/2004 08:53 PM (UTC)
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Who cares about the graphics really? Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance has an incredible story, great characters, neat combos and tons of extras. Yea it may not have the best graphics and the fighters voices may seem similar, but MK:DA has more to offer than the average video game.
MajinTsung, just Ignore him If he's making you angry. Hes obviously sticking to his 'Point' Lol
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outworld222
04/22/2004 08:57 PM (UTC)
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outworld222 Wrote:
MK6 characters are perfect, the 3d technology is perfect, everything is perfect. Anybody who doesnt like it, really doesnt have a clue. MK5 and MK6 are perfect, and put all other fighting games into extreme shame. There I said it. Any comments are welcome.




I said MK6 is perfect, along with MK5.

I understand where totally two different people. You like x box( ps2 graphics are better? Huh?) and I like ps2. I like rap, and you dont. Yeah were different.But you need to carefully read my first post. I even said MK6 is perfect even when the game is not even out. Read the "boxed text"
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04/22/2004 08:59 PM (UTC)
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True MKDA does have a lot to offer, but outworld222ie said it was perfect, the 3-D technology is perfect, the game is perfect and anyone who agrues doesn't know what they are talking about... I was just trying to argue a valid point... even worse he says MK6 is perfect... I game he hasn't even played yet... wow... that makes sense(note sarcasm)... like I said I like MKDA, I play it still sometimes(after I beat Ninja Gaiden up one sides and down the other), but MKDA is no where perfect and other fighting games have different and sometimes more things to offer than MKDA... yes MKDA has lots of goodies... I liked most of the stuff in the krypt, but the things I am addressing are within the gameplay itself and saying that sales alone deem a game the best ever... ifyou say that MKDA 'blows all other games out of the water' especially fighting games... that must be only only fighting game you have played in the last seven years... before that was MK4, later
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04/22/2004 08:59 PM (UTC)
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The reason why I started this that is because Im so sick and tired that people think MK5 is so terrible. Not to get some attention.

BTW, I know PS2 is a souless machine. Theat game informer magazine was right about everything in that statement.
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04/22/2004 09:03 PM (UTC)
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MajinTsung Wrote:
True MKDA does have a lot to offer, but outworld222ie said it was perfect, the 3-D technology is perfect, the game is perfect and anyone who agrues doesn't know what they are talking about... I was just trying to argue a valid point... even worse he says MK6 is perfect... I game he hasn't even played yet... wow... that makes sense(note sarcasm)... like I said I like MKDA, I play it still sometimes(after I beat Ninja Gaiden up one sides and down the other), but MKDA is no where perfect and other fighting games have different and sometimes more things to offer than MKDA... yes MKDA has lots of goodies... I liked most of the stuff in the krypt, but the things I am addressing are within the gameplay itself and saying that sales alone deem a game the best ever... ifyou say that MKDA 'blows all other games out of the water' especially fighting games... that must be only only fighting game you have played in the last seven years... before that was MK4, later



Oh, really shows how much you know. I played virtual fighter 4, and I own the latest tekken in my CD collection. I know youre wrong. Because I HAVE played many other fighting games. Even Sould calibur 2, and Dragonballz. Oh well, sorry to proove you wrong buddy. By the way, I think youre really a decent person on the inside.
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04/22/2004 09:05 PM (UTC)
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You never played MK6... you are an idiot... and if you think PS2 has better graphics that Xbox, then damn it back it up, you have yet to support your statements with any evidence... if I were to support my rap arguement I would say people in rock bands or orchestras takes years to master their instruments and to learn about tuning, pithc, rythm, frequency, harmony, and many other things, while rapper strings words together with a electronically programmed background that I can make in a few minutes and talk about hoes, weed, being hot, and saying their name at least a couple times... that is a stereotype and isn't all true and several rock songs have no depth to them as well, but the majority of rap that you listen to has the elements I have talked about... now if I were to say that MKDA isn't perfect, well I already made that point... if I were to say that MKDeception isn't perfect, because we have no way of knowing how good it is yet because none of us has played it or seen it in action except for quick screen shots in short videos that reveal little to nothing about the actual fighting system... then I would be supporting my evidence that MK6 is not perfect... also the PS2 pics look a little choppy and if the graphics were perfect we wouldn't have arguements about whether or not Noob Saibot has goggles in the picutes, because the resolution would be so good we could easily tell... now back up your accusations with some proof...
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outworld222
04/22/2004 09:06 PM (UTC)
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I rest my case. Im going to burger KIng.
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04/22/2004 09:09 PM (UTC)
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DBZ budikai I own and MKDA has some definate advantages over that fighting wise, but I wouldn't call budikai a serious fighting game... and why are you trying to work that Xbox pusher PS2 hater thing over on me... you still haven't backed anything you said up yet. I didn't say MKDA was horrible, I just said it had some flaws and was in no way perfect... this arguement is becoming stale... but only on the account that you can't back up your statements and want to throw childish insults at me... and what do my opinions have to do with the kind of person I am.. you insulted me first for no reason, except that you CANNOT back anything you say up...
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04/22/2004 09:10 PM (UTC)
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No case... I am going to Ethics class in 21 mins... I shall continue this when you make a valid point.. which you haven't made once yet

outworld222 Wrote:
MK6 characters are perfect, the 3d technology is perfect, everything is perfect. Anybody who doesnt like it, really doesnt have a clue. MK5 and MK6 are perfect, and put all other fighting games into extreme shame. There I said it. Any comments are welcome.


Put all other fighting games to extreme shame?

Why exactly?
Let's take Tekken 4 as an example.

As games, MKDA has much more to offer in story, variety in modes etc. but as fighting games, I'd take Tekken 4 over MKDA anyday.

If I had to pick between the two I'd pick MKDA, but if I had to pick between them as to say which is the better fighting game, I'd pick Tekken 4.

MKDA is a great game, but yes it is flawed.
If it's perfect then there should be no way to construct a tier list, as every character would be completely balanced.
If it's perfect then glitches would not exist.
If it's perfect then why are so many people disatisfied?
If it puts all other fighting games to shame, then why is it people can find much more depth in others?

MKDA is a good game, but it has its flaws, like ANY game.
As for saying MK6 is perfect, nobody can judge it until it's out, simple as that.

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I rest my case. Im going to burger KIng.


Lol, I'll join you
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04/22/2004 09:25 PM (UTC)
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sorry bud doa3 is alot bether then mkda
and mk has never been perfect the onlly game coming close to perfect is HALO
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mangatropi
04/22/2004 09:26 PM (UTC)
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People are always disatisfied with games especially Mortal Kombat. I have played all of the tekken games and comparing tekken 4 to MK:DA is an insult. I wonder if gamers just envy Deadly Alliance.
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TheSoulOfErmac
04/23/2004 12:30 AM (UTC)
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I dont know why most people don't like MKDA. I thought it was fine. But if you want to get into all fo the detail, I can see the flaw, however, it's just a video game, and I'm not gonna get bent out of shape for it. I mean I love the series and all, but compared to the other MK games, I think MKDA is the best obviously. However, for those who love the game, and those who hate it, you should just agree, to disagree.
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04/23/2004 12:50 AM (UTC)
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The last time I played Tekken or Virtue Fighter was in Very Early installments (Tekken 2, and Virtue Fighter 2). Has the gameplay improved since then? Because back then,both were just button mashers.
Yes, game play has improved a Ton for those games.

You should rent them some time.

But when you play them, to get the full goodness, you need to know some of the moves.

I would go to practice mode, and learn the moves for like 5 or 10 minutes.

Button mashing makes every game look like it sucks, even if it's good.

Once you know what you are doing, that's when it becomes really interesting, especially

when playing against other people.
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Digital_Assassin
04/23/2004 01:12 AM (UTC)
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outworld222 Wrote:
MK6 characters are perfect, the 3d technology is perfect, everything is perfect. Anybody who doesnt like it, really doesnt have a clue. MK5 and MK6 are perfect, and put all other fighting games into extreme shame. There I said it. Any comments are welcome.


hate to break to u but mk:da sucked
and in no way shape or form was it "perfect"
so anyway y dont u answer that too.. wat made it so "perfect" for u?? did u do/see something i didnt?? cuz i know im not blind even though playin that horrible sh*t almost did make me...

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