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I love all the people who are like 'U R TEH LIE CUZ I CAN KIK UR ASS WIT BARRKA HE IS DA BEST TEIR!!1'
I love all the people who are like 'U R TEH LIE CUZ I CAN KIK UR ASS WIT BARRKA HE IS DA BEST TEIR!!1'
If I had a dime for everytime I kicked someone's ass for saying that, I'd be the richest man in america hell in fact, I'd be the richest man in the world. People either said that when saying that they would kick my ass with either Baraka, Meat, Blaze, or Chameleon, and yet none of them came close to beating me yet.
Dead_Elemental_Master Wrote:
In online mode, out of the god tiers. The order in top to bottom is this:
Blaze
Moloch
Onaga
I don't know about offline though but apparently Blaze users are a tad bit stronger than Moloch users. I'm an exception to this though. Kung Lao IS in fact good online. Now against Moloch users, Reiko, Blaze, and Kung Lao are 3 characters I reccomend against him. I forgot if Ermac, Kenshi, Shujinko's, and Mokap's tele slam moves would help against Moloch though. However if so then you can pretty much make an infinite and/or a devastating combo from that and go from there if you can pull it off. Onaga and Blaze however are different issues. Now those I mentioned aren't the only ones that you can use to beat Moloch users. Those are just the best 3 I know about while Jinko, Kenshi, Ermac, and Mokap are potential ones.
Whoops I forgot about stryker. You can beat Blaze users very easily with Stryker if you position him right like m0sEpH said in his post. Stryker is one tough dude. Then again he was one tough dude in MK3. Then again, regarding Stryker users vs Blaze users, it all comes down to how well you play using Stryker. Now if only Stryker has a shokan stomp like move like the one he did on Sheeva in the trailers for MKA lol.
In online mode, out of the god tiers. The order in top to bottom is this:
Blaze
Moloch
Onaga
I don't know about offline though but apparently Blaze users are a tad bit stronger than Moloch users. I'm an exception to this though. Kung Lao IS in fact good online. Now against Moloch users, Reiko, Blaze, and Kung Lao are 3 characters I reccomend against him. I forgot if Ermac, Kenshi, Shujinko's, and Mokap's tele slam moves would help against Moloch though. However if so then you can pretty much make an infinite and/or a devastating combo from that and go from there if you can pull it off. Onaga and Blaze however are different issues. Now those I mentioned aren't the only ones that you can use to beat Moloch users. Those are just the best 3 I know about while Jinko, Kenshi, Ermac, and Mokap are potential ones.
Whoops I forgot about stryker. You can beat Blaze users very easily with Stryker if you position him right like m0sEpH said in his post. Stryker is one tough dude. Then again he was one tough dude in MK3. Then again, regarding Stryker users vs Blaze users, it all comes down to how well you play using Stryker. Now if only Stryker has a shokan stomp like move like the one he did on Sheeva in the trailers for MKA lol.
Your recommendations are inadequate.
Please.. Jinko potential ?
No... never a chance. Old man has shitty low pokes, and nothing safe worth using. He is trash.
The absolute best ways to take out Moloch, Onaga, and Blaze (MOB) is to use the following methods.
1. Kintaro - The best counter pick to exist vs MOB. All you need is 1 in weapon, and his freethrow. 1 is a free throw, and best part... its a often safe mid-hit.
Most Boss idiots love to play a mean counter game. So.. if they decide to sit there and block all day.. DF+1 takes them out. Unblockable move... doesnt do much damage, but is defiantly worth using.
Now for a person playing a no block, offensive game. DB+1. As soon as their about to hit the ground.. in first stance: 1,4, CS. Its a OTG... so trust me, it works
Notice that it ends in "1" in weapon. Run up.. get a free throw on their ass.
BIG DAMAGE
The way I play Kintaro is to play counter. Most Moloch idiots decide to rely on 1,1, U+3. Well... heres the fun part. You can parry in between 1 and U+3. So what do you do next ?
Either 1,4, CS .. Free throw
or
1 in weapon, Free throw - Just to be safe
Just be sure to use lots, and lots of throws against the MOB characters, and you will be fine.
2. Millena - Millena is 2nd best because of her low pokes and 50/50 potential only against MOB.
D+1 is essential. Watch as your opponent struggles trying to parry in between rapid D+1's. They cant do shit, but jump out of it, or break.
If you know that they are about to try and escape... 4, 1.
Its just about D+1... and 4 that hits mid. Nothing more than this.
3. Jerek - Jerek receives the spot at 3 because of his quick run away, and rhino stomp game.
Keep the weapon out.... run around the arena, and spam rhino stomps all day. If the opponent decides to be smart and jump towards you... D+2 to BF+3 FTW.
Its all about playing keep away. And D+1 in weapon is essential if they get close, use it.
4. Mokap - Mokap's D+2 in first style. Nuff said.
He has the glitch low poke that does the same amount of damage that a regular upper cut does. Goes to show how poorly this game was tested.
But... Bosses can get around this pretty easily. The best thing to do is mix it up with 11 because they are safe mid hits. Running up and using D+2 is so damn predicable. So just keep the mixup running.
5. Drahmin - Drahmin is just to safe...
1,1, CS is so damn fast and safe, and alot of boss user have trouble with it. Not to mention that D+1 in weapon is a very, very quick low poke and can be spammed over and over because it cannot be parried.
Gotta love him
6. Noob - ONLY WORKS ONLINE !
Noob can get away rather nicely by using D+4 in his first stance. Sets them up for a bit of a 50/50. Either D+4 again ... or 2,4 because of its usual safeness online.
Offline though... he only has D+4. And thats it.
7. Mavado - Hook Swords !
Hooks sword mixups are all you need.
1,1,CS and U+2 in weapon are essential. If they decide to finally block low...4 in weapon FTW.
8. Kabal - Hook Swords FTW again !
Kabal isnt exactly better than Mavado on this one because he lacks speed. His hook swords still work though.
U+2, and 4 is all you need.
9. Liu Kang - Very Arguable.
This one relys on online lag... offline.. works but not very well
D+1 FTW. And if boss user decides to block low finally, F+2.
Not much more to say
10. Daegon - well...
D+4. Quick low hits.... and B+2 is safe only online.
Thats why he is trash vs boss characters offline.. usable though.
Now this list is based upon my experiences online. Go ahead and argue...just give me my kudos
vs any character, or boss
1) tracking mids that are safe
2) tracking lows that are safe
3) mixups between parries and 1) and 2)
4) jumpkicks ( can be sidestepped and thrown though )
5) a good, 30% combo on bosses, 50% on regs
mka in a nutshell right there, although
6) skill
and
for 99% of the online community
7) lag ( main reason top players like me and dave dont play no more )
later
1) tracking mids that are safe
2) tracking lows that are safe
3) mixups between parries and 1) and 2)
4) jumpkicks ( can be sidestepped and thrown though )
5) a good, 30% combo on bosses, 50% on regs
mka in a nutshell right there, although
6) skill
and
for 99% of the online community
7) lag ( main reason top players like me and dave dont play no more )
later
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Doesn't Dairou do good against M.O.B. too? Oh and RJ we gotta do some practice runs with Kintaro vs. MOB. I had trouble with SHREDDR's Moloch which shouldn't be happening.
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Actually.. Dairou sucks against MOB
Cant do anything to them what so ever.
You do a TS drop vs Blaze... you eat FF+1 All day
You do a TS drop vs Moloch... you eat 1,1,U+3 All day
You do a TS drop vs Onaga... You eat B+1 all day
He has nothing unfortunately
Nikko.... I'll work with you on Kintaro. Its just takes a little practice.. but it pays off.
As for Shredder... that guy is a scrub. I beat his Moloch with Kintaro the other day just to have him pull, and then come back in the server to try and blame it on me.
lol... go figure.
Actually.. Dairou sucks against MOB
Cant do anything to them what so ever.
You do a TS drop vs Blaze... you eat FF+1 All day
You do a TS drop vs Moloch... you eat 1,1,U+3 All day
You do a TS drop vs Onaga... You eat B+1 all day
He has nothing unfortunately
Nikko.... I'll work with you on Kintaro. Its just takes a little practice.. but it pays off.
As for Shredder... that guy is a scrub. I beat his Moloch with Kintaro the other day just to have him pull, and then come back in the server to try and blame it on me.
lol... go figure.

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Can someone post the complete tier list for offline?
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