Pros and Cons of MK Vs DC
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posted11/20/2008 05:19 AM (UTC)by
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11/16/2008 09:06 PM (UTC)
Post the top 5 pros and cons of MK Vs DC!

PROS:
1) Fun and responsive combat engine
2) Awesome special effects, animations and modeling
3) Best MK since MK3 IMHO
4) Giant boobs!!! wow
5) Solid multiplayer

CONS:
1) No versus screen?? What were they thinking?furious
2) Too much loading
3) Crappy presentation/interface
4) Gameplay glitches, especially when both figthers do a special move
5) No rematch on multiplayer games?
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11/16/2008 09:18 PM (UTC)
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PROS:
1) New fighting engine. Their best yet!
2) Graphically endearing. MK9 will exceed this :D
3) Kitana and Sonya!
4) Engaging Story
5) Fantastic special effects and pro-moves.

CONS:
1) Bland Menu Screen.
2) No chapters for several characters in Story Mode
3) No Mileena, Reptile, Kung Lao, Sindel or Goro.
4) No actual Opening Intro. Only a short opening cutscene in Story Mode for both sides.
5) Barely any additional kontent, i.e No hidden characters, alternate costumes, additional modes, etc.
6) Weak and boring fatalities/brutalities.
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11/16/2008 09:21 PM (UTC)
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kimphamg Wrote:

2) Too much loading


You must have PS3.
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kimphamg
11/16/2008 09:27 PM (UTC)
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Don't hijack my thread!! I have an xbox360, and the loading screen is quick but appears too often
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sonicherosfan1
11/16/2008 09:36 PM (UTC)
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I don't think the loading is that big of a deal and I have a ps3.
There are some animations reused from the last 3 mk games and I hate that,it makes the game look lazy or something.And the end boss dies the same way almost from the last 2 games in arcade mode anyway.

So other then that,I am having a blast with this game.Even with its flaws and lack of gore(i dont care if its there or not)I am still having fun and thats all that matters.For me, I am really looking forward to MKvsDCU2.The strangest thing though is Batman is turning out to be my favorite character is this game.
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11/16/2008 09:41 PM (UTC)
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sonicherosfan1 Wrote:
MKvsDCU2..


I swear to god if we don't get a real MK after this and are instead forced to sit through another MK vs DC I will leave the fucking franchise..at least until the next real MK game.
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Nic-V
11/16/2008 09:49 PM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
>I swear to god if we don't get a real MK after this and are instead forced to sit through another MK vs DC I will leave the fucking franchise..at least until the next real MK game.

Eh then it wouldn't really make a difference since you're not buying this game anyway? Just pointing out
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11/16/2008 09:52 PM (UTC)
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kimphamg Wrote:

4) Giant boobs!!! wow

Now a standard of the genre, it seems. I would even say fatalities are to Mortal Kombat as tits are to the Dead or Alive franchise.
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11/16/2008 10:14 PM (UTC)
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Nic-V Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
>I swear to god if we don't get a real MK after this and are instead forced to sit through another MK vs DC I will leave the fucking franchise..at least until the next real MK game.

Eh then it wouldn't really make a difference since you're not buying this game anyway? Just pointing out


Yes...because then it will be two games I do not buy instead of one
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11/16/2008 11:20 PM (UTC)
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I don't know what your problem is, the gameplay is amazing, with the exception of klose kombat perhaps.

It feels really good when fighting, very tight controls, awesome special moves, etc. You know what would make this awesome? Gore. Then you would shut the fuck up after weeks of bullshit.
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11/16/2008 11:53 PM (UTC)
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i still find the fighting some what stiff actually.

now it's not MKDA-MKA stiff, it's 100% better than that but i think it could still be a little smoother. although i'm playing on the 360 so it might just be the controller.

they should really let you use the analog stick for 2D motions too.
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11/17/2008 12:09 AM (UTC)
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Dont come with that stupid thing of MK VS DC 2 people

The game is nice for what I can see, but DC Heroes are the worst thing that could happen with that game

This is my ONLY CON.
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11/17/2008 02:45 PM (UTC)
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From what I have seen and heard:

Pro:

1.- The gameplay!
2.- The story!
3.- The pro moves, free fall and klose combat.
4.- Gorgoues graphics, character models, cut-scenes, etc.
5.- They were so right about making a perfect Sonya!
6.- Apparently, most fatalities rock.

Cons:

1.- Some stuff is still kind of stiff.
2.- Some characters have stolen moves
3.- Some fatalities could had been sooooooooooooo much better, even at the T level.
4.- The computer doesnt allow you to do free fall super moves or klose kombat? Is this true??
5.- No Johnny Cage, Mileena or Sindel.
6.- No Poison Ivy.

That's all for now.
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11/17/2008 03:11 PM (UTC)
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@q - you can KK / FF the cpu successfully as much as you want. ANybody who tells you the cpu is cheating just sucks at not getting countered.

rage, throw escapes, and wakeup options actually keep the ai pretty honest. It still reads inputs (or maybe just responds on frame 1 / 2, ie: way faster than humans can), but you have enough options to keep from getting blown away when it gets in a mood to win.
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11/19/2008 10:19 PM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
>I swear to god if we don't get a real MK after this and are instead forced to sit through another MK vs DC I will leave the fucking franchise..at least until the next real MK game.

Eh then it wouldn't really make a difference since you're not buying this game anyway? Just pointing out


Yes...because then it will be two games I do not buy instead of one


Amen. I'm on the verge of dumping MK, too.

Fighting DC was a stupid idea... but I could've forgiven it.
The 2D-esque fighting was a retarded idea... but I could've forgiven that.
The new RAGE mode (basically AGGRESSOR v 2.0) was stupid... again, I could have forgiven that.

...But deciding on this roster? Putting Baraka and Kano in over Johnny Cage and Reptile? I thought this was supposed to be an MK all-star game. Don't get me started on the DC side, 'cause most of those choices were poor (how many Batman characters can fit in one box? Hey, let's add a Teen Titans villain! Wahoooooooo!!!)

As much as I like MK, they aren't doing crap with their characters, lately. Sonya, one of my favorite characters, seldom does more than appear as a stereotypical, butch, female soldier. No character evolution, no nothing. She's just there. Jax does little more than appear as the token black dude, complete with muscles because EVERY black guy has muscles (according to the either pencil-thin or Jabba-fat white programmers that make these things) and, as a bonus, he's protrayed as a soldier. Do something with your characters, Midway! Allow them to progress or evolve already! Another of my favorites, Liu Kang, has become little more than the poster boy for character mediocrity, doing little even in Shaolin Monks: a title he STARRED in.

Speaking of 'Monks, while the hell are the two best characters from that game (JC, of course, stealing every damn scene he was in, just like the first movie; and Kung Lao, who FINALLY showed some depth and was an interesting personality for once) NOT IN THE DAMN GAME?!? Are you TRYING to keep characters that show promise from succedding? Why the $#*@ else would you include a character like Baraka, who's little more than a generic mutant punching back (yeah, I remember when his race was called the uninspired "mutants". Nice, huh?)? Do you honestly not give a %^a anymore? If so, fire Vogel, or demote him, and hire a real writer... and take away Boon's ability to pick the roster, 'cause the writer should choose his cast, and Boon's done a pretty piss-poor job since Deception (a.k.a. Reject's Revenge).

OK, I'm done. And no, I haven't and will not be buying this game, it's jsut got too much against it, in my book.

A parting shot: Loyalty my %#$, if they aren't going to put a product out that appeals to me, there's no way I'm buying it simply for the name on the box: something too many fans seem to be doing, lately.
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11/20/2008 12:32 AM (UTC)
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johnny_cage_win Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
Nic-V Wrote:
Deathbearer Wrote:
>I swear to god if we don't get a real MK after this and are instead forced to sit through another MK vs DC I will leave the fucking franchise..at least until the next real MK game.

Eh then it wouldn't really make a difference since you're not buying this game anyway? Just pointing out


Yes...because then it will be two games I do not buy instead of one


Amen. I'm on the verge of dumping MK, too.

Fighting DC was a stupid idea... but I could've forgiven it.
The 2D-esque fighting was a retarded idea... but I could've forgiven that.
The new RAGE mode (basically AGGRESSOR v 2.0) was stupid... again, I could have forgiven that.

...But deciding on this roster? Putting Baraka and Kano in over Johnny Cage and Reptile? I thought this was supposed to be an MK all-star game. Don't get me started on the DC side, 'cause most of those choices were poor (how many Batman characters can fit in one box? Hey, let's add a Teen Titans villain! Wahoooooooo!!!)

As much as I like MK, they aren't doing crap with their characters, lately. Sonya, one of my favorite characters, seldom does more than appear as a stereotypical, butch, female soldier. No character evolution, no nothing. She's just there. Jax does little more than appear as the token black dude, complete with muscles because EVERY black guy has muscles (according to the either pencil-thin or Jabba-fat white programmers that make these things) and, as a bonus, he's protrayed as a soldier. Do something with your characters, Midway! Allow them to progress or evolve already! Another of my favorites, Liu Kang, has become little more than the poster boy for character mediocrity, doing little even in Shaolin Monks: a title he STARRED in.

Speaking of 'Monks, while the hell are the two best characters from that game (JC, of course, stealing every damn scene he was in, just like the first movie; and Kung Lao, who FINALLY showed some depth and was an interesting personality for once) NOT IN THE DAMN GAME?!? Are you TRYING to keep characters that show promise from succedding? Why the $#*@ else would you include a character like Baraka, who's little more than a generic mutant punching back (yeah, I remember when his race was called the uninspired "mutants". Nice, huh?)? Do you honestly not give a %^a anymore? If so, fire Vogel, or demote him, and hire a real writer... and take away Boon's ability to pick the roster, 'cause the writer should choose his cast, and Boon's done a pretty piss-poor job since Deception (a.k.a. Reject's Revenge).

OK, I'm done. And no, I haven't and will not be buying this game, it's jsut got too much against it, in my book.

A parting shot: Loyalty my %#$, if they aren't going to put a product out that appeals to me, there's no way I'm buying it simply for the name on the box: something too many fans seem to be doing, lately.


The Quasi 2D engine is the best thing thats happened to this franchise in the last 10 years.
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11/20/2008 12:53 AM (UTC)
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I really miss the real fatalities. Not the watered down teen versions...
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11/20/2008 04:28 AM (UTC)
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2D should go the way of the dinosaur... that's one reason I can't stand Street Fighter anymore. Either evolve or die. MK's devolving, regardless of whether the 2D plys better, you have to find a way to mkae 3D work or no one'll care in a few years. I'm at that point now, honestly. I was pleased with the jump to 3D, to go back now, even if it's not true 2D, is like admitting failure. If I want a 2D game I'll play MK 2 or 3.
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11/20/2008 04:36 AM (UTC)
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2D should go the way of the dinosaur... that's one reason I can't stand Street Fighter anymore. Either evolve or die. MK's devolving, regardless of whether the 2D plys better, you have to find a way to mkae 3D work or no one'll care in a few years. I'm at that point now, honestly. I was pleased with the jump to 3D, to go back now, even if it's not true 2D, is like admitting failure. If I want a 2D game I'll play MK 2 or 3.


People still play Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike and the Capcom Versus series religiously so your argument fails, MKs transition to 3D was an abysmal failure. Should MK turn into an FPS because that's whats popular?
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11/20/2008 04:58 AM (UTC)
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No, my argument doesn't "fail" just because of an exception. There are always those who cling to stuff like SF, but the younger generation reallly doesn't care about 2D. Personally, I think it sucks, horribly. You're entitled to your opinion, too, but all one has to do is look at the shape fighters are in now-a-days to realize that the end is coming if something isn't done: and going backwards just isn't going to cut it. The fighting genre just isn't selling compared to others, and doing the same things over and over is one of the chief reasons why.
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11/20/2008 05:19 AM (UTC)
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No, my argument doesn't "fail" just because of an exception. There are always those who cling to stuff like SF, but the younger generation reallly doesn't care about 2D. Personally, I think it sucks, horribly. You're entitled to your opinion, too, but all one has to do is look at the shape fighters are in now-a-days to realize that the end is coming if something isn't done: and going backwards just isn't going to cut it. The fighting genre just isn't selling compared to others, and doing the same things over and over is one of the chief reasons why.


That reasoning doesn't really hold weight. All that's been coming out for roughly the last 10 years ARE 3D fighters(aside from random Street Fighter upgrades, etc.)**. So by your logic, 3D fighters are killing the market.


** I'm speaking state side of course.
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