Scorpion toasty fatality problem
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posted07/12/2008 06:15 PM (UTC)by
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as they said, scorpion will have his toasty fatality back
in this fatality he rips of his mask before he burns the opponent right ?
but since we will be able to knock masks off
will the game recognize if he doesn't have his mask on and cut the animation
and vice versa ???

i hope they better
otherwise this will be another lazy glitch

sorry if this topic belongs somewhere else
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07/11/2008 01:18 PM (UTC)
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Good question...

My opinion is that he'll have a different fatality without his mask, or they'll do a different animation.

For instance, they might have him just wave his hand in front of his face, and that could make his skull burst into flame.
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07/11/2008 02:45 PM (UTC)
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all it requires is

IF

THEN

ELSE

(if you know your logic).... it won't be such a problem.
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07/11/2008 02:51 PM (UTC)
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yeah but we all know that midway can be very lazy
remember when the cyborgs exploded
and they had human guts
that was very simple to fix, but they didn't

so i'm wondering if they will take care of it
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07/11/2008 02:57 PM (UTC)
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I'm guessing we won't know until it's released though
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07/11/2008 03:02 PM (UTC)
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You can knock his mask off yeah. But its still like a human jaw, its not completly skinned. He should just rip it all off.
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07/11/2008 03:02 PM (UTC)
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good question. Didn't think of that untill I've read your thread.

Acually, I think it would be coul if Scorpions face would burst into flames anyway (with or without the mask). And after that, he'll spit the fire onto his foe.

I'm also a little afraid that it'll be toned down because of the T rating. But I'm still happy we're gonna see the Fatality in the game!
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07/11/2008 03:12 PM (UTC)
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thenomad Wrote:
yeah but we all know that midway can be very lazy
remember when the cyborgs exploded
and they had human guts
that was very simple to fix, but they didn't

so i'm wondering if they will take care of it


The cyborgs are human under all of their cybernetic implants.
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07/11/2008 03:23 PM (UTC)
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haha that's some excuse
maybe cyrax but smoke ??????
when they exploded
i remember there was blood ? and no oil ??
and also when they exploded there were no electronic parts flying away
so = lazy

no excuse
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07/11/2008 04:03 PM (UTC)
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It's true though. they are humans underneath the robotic suits.
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07/11/2008 04:06 PM (UTC)
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"lazy glitch"? Are you kidding me? The game isn't even out yet and we've got people saying things like 'this is or would be a lazy glitch'? COME ON! He'll pull his cowl off if his mask is gone, and the whole thing if it isn't. Please, please, please, please, PLEASE do not start complaining about things that probably won't even be an issue when the actual game is released. Wait 'til it's actually released, please.
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07/11/2008 04:16 PM (UTC)
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i'm just hoping that they will take care of it and after all it was just a question and something to talk about
but this is next gen
i just hope that they will have more eye for detail then sometimes in previous games

and about the robots
smoke is just smoke
i don't know if he's got guts ??
maybe human smoke
but that was not the case in mka
that was just being lazy

but overall i think this game will be very good
from what we already have seen in the videos
this is gonna be cool

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07/11/2008 04:29 PM (UTC)
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You only knock Scorpion's mask off though. He still has the hood part. He grabs it by that part during the Fatality. Makes no difference whether the mask part got knocked off and he already has a skull head or not.
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07/11/2008 04:32 PM (UTC)
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^^

also true dat
but he spits the flames out his mouth
and if his mask is knocked off
then theres no reason to put his hood off
you know what is mean ?

but yea
we will see it when the game is released
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07/11/2008 04:35 PM (UTC)
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Smoke used to be friends with Sub-Zero until the clan turned on them. He was also a human at that time. Cyrax is still human (as evidenced by his alt. outfits and MK4) endings... but I think the machine has taken over Sektor and Smoke.
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07/11/2008 04:39 PM (UTC)
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i know
but the animation just does not fitted for the cyborgs
that's what i thought but yeah it will all point out when the game' released
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07/11/2008 05:32 PM (UTC)
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thenomad Wrote:
yeah but we all know that midway can be very lazy
remember when the cyborgs exploded
and they had human guts
that was very simple to fix, but they didn't

so i'm wondering if they will take care of it


No... I don't remember seeing guts actually. I saw blood, bones, and flesh (which I admit, the "flesh" looked like they tore the limbs off cabbage patch dolls).
Cyborgs have flesh........ because they are cybernetic organisms. Keyword ORGANISM. So I would expect SOME BLOOD to still exist considering they were human. Not just oil. I don't think that when the Lin Kuei transformed their clansmen into Cyborgs, they got rid of EVERY BIT of human tissue. That makes no sense. They may as well have just built robots, don't you think?

If you're complaining that when they got hit during a match you saw blackish blue blood and/or oil but red blood in the fatalities, that could be easily explained with what we call a "good excuse" or "explanation" using the facts I stated above.

Besides, I really don't consider what you're complaining about to be "lazy." back then they tried everything they could to save memory in their game... that meant sacrificing all the stupid details that wouldn't really improve your damn game play experience in the first place. I admit, the gore was not as good as MKII... but like I said. MEMORY SAVER to have everyone die the same way.
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07/11/2008 05:48 PM (UTC)
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I highly doubt that the animation will change.

Even in MK4, when he had his skull showing with one of his costumes, the animation didn't change.
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07/11/2008 06:12 PM (UTC)
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i know that there were things in the past that they could just not fix because of lack of space and memory (and by guts i meant bones and shit i couldn't find the right word as its sometimes hard to xpress myself in another language)

but that's why i hope that this first game for the next gen consoles looks clean and badass

i hardly ever complain and i know there doing there best
but there were things in the past that were kinda "unpoulished" in the games like we all know


but yeah we all know that the gameplay is the most important factor
so, can't wait till the game drops
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07/11/2008 06:13 PM (UTC)
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thenomad Wrote:
i know that there were things in the past that they could just not fix because of lack of space and memory

but that's why i hope that this first game for the next gen consoles looks clean and badass

i hardly ever complain and i know there doing there best
but there were things in the past that were kinda "unpoulished" in the games like we all know


but yeah we all know that the gameplay is the most important factor
so, can't wait till the game drops


... you're shady.

... and no, not like Noob Saibot ROFLCOPTER
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07/11/2008 06:16 PM (UTC)
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yeah i know i am
but like i said
its hard to debate in another language when english isn't my first and not even my second laguage

and i don't even wanna know what roflcop.... or whatever means grin
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07/11/2008 07:21 PM (UTC)
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You're not bad at English though, I've seen a lot worse... and most of them are American or English.

You do a good job.
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07/11/2008 07:55 PM (UTC)
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I really really hope thats not an issue.

It would look really crappy if they made him suddenly take out his makes out of thin air when he has no mask to begin with (because it could had been knocked off).

Thats a typical mistake in MK I guess, but it should not happen.
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07/12/2008 04:36 PM (UTC)
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scorpion has his mask off he takes off his ninja hood to reveal his flaming skull, he blows the fire that is what i saw in the vid


probably wont be a problem with the fatality

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07/12/2008 04:56 PM (UTC)
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Not a big deal honestly, I think for one again...EARLY build. I think some people need to stop having ulcers over trivial stuff no doubt due to early builds lol.

If you guys remember the early builds, trailers/teasers for MK:D and MKA before the game came out, lots of things changed, styles, animations, death traps etc, etc including small things like this.

I'm not concerned about it honestly, still for a quick teaser looked awesome!

If I'm Midway, I don't care about "perfect" trailer, but rather a damn good game once it's out.wink

Although, they could say if Scorpion's mask is busted off completely with just the hoody and skull....they could also have his head burn up like they showed to the point where it burns off his mask totally, that would be awesome and make perfect sense
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