I don't think we'll see the morph. The loading times for it are what prevented it from being put into MKDA. If Shang is back, I'm sure it will be without the morph.

Besides, he has proven in MKDA that he does not need it!

I miss the morph, it was Shang Tsung distinguishing ability, just like Scorpions spear is to Scorpion, and Sub-Zero's ice blast, is to Sub-Zero. Hopefully on future consoles and future installments, if Tsung ever returns, he gets that ability back.

i think they should have the morph in it because it was kina like his signature

If they can load these vast levels that we have seen with interactive elements, they can do the Morph.

He should ONLY MORPH into characters that ARE NOT in the game.

Like some new demon thing or lets say, a character that is NOT in the game.

I love the character Shang Tsung... but I'm pretty sure he's dead so he proooooobably won't be morphing into anyone anytime soon. Hopefully he isn't dead but how many times can you be defeated without being killed? I mean... really?

I agree that he should only Morph into characters that are not in the game. I mentioned this in a post a while ago.

Shang should only be able to morph into perhaps 3 characters that have maybe one or two origional special moves. The weapon should be the same and maybe even the fighting styles.

In exchange he should be able to keep the morphed form for as long as he wants.

He should only morph into dead characters whos souls he's taken. It doesn't make sence for him to take the form of playable characters. Maybe two of his three morphable characters should be new and one classic dead character. The origional Kung Lao for example.

Here is my idea...

Remember in MK:DA,Shang Tsung could do a move called "Soul Steal" were he takes some of the opponents soul to replenish his health.What if he could do that move but instead of replinishing his health,it transforms him into that character.He would have all the characters moves and styles.But it would only last for a while.

...what are your thoughts on my idea?

That soul steal idea is a good one, I wouldn't think there'd be many load time problems with a character model that was already loaded. That added to my previous idea would add 3 old dead characters and a TMP character that would rotate depending on who you played against, which i think would be pretty cool.

I have a feeling they can load up to 3 other characters into the memory at once. Yeah the soul steal idea works, unless he is dead.

He was much better without it. It was annoying.

tgrant Wrote: I don't think we'll see the morph. The loading times for it are what prevented it from being put into MKDA. If Shang is back, I'm sure it will be without the morph. Besides, he has proven in MKDA that he does not need it!

I agree. Shang was a powerful fighter to contend with all by himself. It would be cool, but not if it is going to introduce slowdown into the game. Just give him his other moves (1, 2, or 3 flaming skulls, Ground Flaming Skulls, Soul Steal, and the 3d fighter.) and he'll be bad ass. Plus his fighting styles were also powerful without the use of special moves. He just doesn't need the morph anymore.

They could give him his morph without the load times.I MK3 on the Playstation you could pick 3 characters Shang could morph into with no load time.But you could only use the three characters that you select before the match starts.

MKD could use that and have Shang morph into only three character whom souls he has stolen,and are trully dead.Three fighting styles and three souls,each stance could be someone he has killed,namely Liu Kang.

cartmansp Wrote: Here is my idea... Remember in MK:DA,Shang Tsung could do a move called "Soul Steal" were he takes some of the opponents soul to replenish his health.What if he could do that move but instead of replinishing his health,it transforms him into that character.He would have all the characters moves and styles.But it would only last for a while. ...what are your thoughts on my idea?

I think that is a very good idea, and it could very well solve the load problem for his morphing. It would also make much more since IMO.

Why can't the morph be done? In Final Fantasy X-2 they also transform (kindoff) when you change dressgrid.. end there are NO loading times in that game.. so maybe it can be done..

TomTaz Wrote: tgrant Wrote: I don't think we'll see the morph. The loading times for it are what prevented it from being put into MKDA. If Shang is back, I'm sure it will be without the morph. Besides, he has proven in MKDA that he does not need it! I agree. Shang was a powerful fighter to contend with all by himself. It would be cool, but not if it is going to introduce slowdown into the game. Just give him his other moves (1, 2, or 3 flaming skulls, Ground Flaming Skulls, Soul Steal, and the 3d fighter.) and he'll be bad ass. Plus his fighting styles were also powerful without the use of special moves. He just doesn't need the morph anymore.

I'm glad you agree TomTaz. I'd like to see those moves back. The Ground Skulls would look pretty sweet. The Flaming Skulls owned! As you said, Shangs styles are powerful. Crane alone was excellent. He doesn't need the morph anymore. He is finally his own character rather than everyone else. Besides, every other character plays fine as themself? So why can't peeps use Shang without the morph? Just a thought!

There's no reason for them not being able to make Shang Tsung morph, just pure out laziness and not trying. It has been done in a lot of other games so why not put it in now.

First post. Be gentle. ;)

I love Shang Tsung's morph ability. It made him my favourite character in MKII, MK3 and UMK3, because you could literally be anyone for a brief time. This was especially great for Fatalities (many a time I morphed into Sub Zero, permafroze the opponent, then morphed into someone else to do a pseudo-combo Fatality) since you could literally do anyone's finisher (my favourite Fatality of all time is the Kintaro morph).

I liked the idea about being able to morph into your opponent if you do the soul steal, because that makes a lot of sense.

I also liked the idea of morphing into people not in the game, such as people whose soul Shang has taken over the years. I think it would be great if you could morph in Shao Khan as a Shang Fatality. Then again, I'm not sure if Shao Khan had a soul for Shang to take.

Anyway, as others have said, Shang's morphing ability was very cool, but as Deadly Alliance proved, not entirely necessary to keep Shang Tsung one of the deadliest of characters.

I dunno if this is true or not, but you know those green lamps in the background or whatever in the Pit 3 stage? Those things hold Shao Kahn's soul to protect it from people who would want it. But at the same time, it doesn't make sense.

How could a body function without its soul?

That's something I haven't heard before.

I just think it'd be pretty cool for Shang to pop a Shao Khan morph Fatality. ;)

Especially if it included taunting. I miss the taunting.

tgrant Wrote: I don't think we'll see the morph. The loading times for it are what prevented it from being put into MKDA. If Shang is back, I'm sure it will be without the morph. Besides, he has proven in MKDA that he does not need it!

you are wrong Shang Tsung still need it.
in mk da he used it at the intro.
if you look good he came in the form of Kung Lao when Liu Kang was practicing.
while walking towards Liu Kang he morphed in his true form and begun to attack him.
so my point is he still can morph and will morph

And you're missing the point that tgrant pointed out:

Gameplay wise, Shang Tsung was a great character and did not need the morph.


Fundamentally though I wish Shang still had it, though according to the MK team the game engine and harware makes it impossible.

Okay, here is a little lesson on shape-shifting, as it applies to Shang Tsung.

Being an advanced shape-shifter, to take the outward appearance of someone Shang would need no more than a passing glance at that person. To get any deeper than that, he would need their soul.

Let's take as our example the opening sequence of DA:
Say Shang wanted to kill Lui Kang by himself. He could have just kept the form of Kung Luo and did something as harmless as asking Kang to spar. Kang, believing it is Kung Lao, would be fighting like a harmless sparing match, and Shang could have quickly struck a fatal blow before Kang knew what was happening.

This could NEVER happen, because Kang would have known it wasn't Kung Lao the second Shang opened his mouth. Why? Because Shang can copy the outward appearance of anyone, but he cannot copy their voice, their mannerisms, or their fighting styles.

That is the basic property of shape-shifting: it is only external; it is only appearance.

This is good for storyline purposes because Shang can get close to someone in the form of some one that they trust, and then kill them before they know that anything is different about the way he acts.

Storyline-wise, Shang can't do what he is best know for doing: changing into every other character.

To be able to make himself a PERFECT copy of another person, Shang Tsung would have to have taken their soul. Then he can have their voice, their mannerisms, their memories, and their fighting styles in battle.

I say, if/when Shang Tsung comes back, he should not be able to turn into any playable characters. He should only be able to turn into characters who's souls he's stolen in the past: the original Kung Lao, Lui Kang, Shao Kahn(?), classic Sub-Zero(?), etc.

I love this, Shang Tsung fans unite! I agree with damn there everyone on this topic in one way or another, especially the fatality morph and morphiong into characters not in the game. Remeber the Kintaro fatality in MKII, just imagaine that beauty in the 3D modeling. If Shang is killed in that opening FMV I swear I'll...I'll!!!....just whine and complain and still buy the game.