Ill tell you all why he would hate the elder gods They have never helped him or congradulated him yet,they haven't patted him on the back,they never thanked him,and they never allowed him to be an elder god instead they sit up there and critsise him. he should loose his mind don't gimme no BS sayin' Rayden never was evil and never should be. Because in MK1 belive it or not he was evil. the only reason he entered was to have fun and beat shang tsung "Eventually rayden became bored, He and all of his other elder god friends then distroied the world and all of the realms have a nice day" rayden WAS EVIL on MK1 they thought it would be better if they made him good but in truth he was intended to be evil. and MK1 was ment to be a quick project to make some money but now its a phenominon i see people getting Dragon points for sending hateful letters against pallate swaps and other theories but they belive i don't deserve any dragon Points for my theorys? unlike alot of people my theory doesnt revolve around MK:DA and MK:D it links ALL of them My proven point Rayden's MK1 Ending. so don't tell me he can't and never will go evil when he was built to be evil in the first place. Im soon going to post a new thread but not yet.

You're on crack.
In Raiden's MK4 ending, which occurred, he was accorded the highest honor a God could have: He was made an Elder God, and chose Fujin as his successor. It was revealed in MKDA that he abandoned his position in order to assist his warriors against Quan Chi and Shang Tsung. So there goes your theory that they never thanked him.
His MKI ending never occurred. More than likely his entire MKI storyline was retconned out of existence, in order to pave the way for him to act as a guiding figure. It's also possible that while he may have entred the tournament originally to prove the gods' might or some such, he decided rather to assist the warriors. This is far more likely than him being secretly evil or something similar all this time.
Finally, Dragon Points mean nothing. They're given out as a reward for helpful or thoughtful posts. Some of the most well-known or intelligent posters are still at "Mortal" level. And complaining about not getting them is a surefire way to be passed over for them when the opportunity arises.

His MK4 ending was very far from the truth and i have 1 word/name that shows this Fujin. Honestly did u see or even hear about fujin in the DA openoing? nope not at all I did notice after watching the opening again that he did mension relenquishing his estatus as elder god so ill give u points there however Fujin was never once mensioned or even talked about proving my point that his MK4 ending wasn't too true I forgot he was a relinquished elder god but honestly u know the elder gods laugh at rayden they curse him with not being able to gather his full force time after time rayden defies the elder gods anyway. with this i can say he doesnt trust them if u trust someone you will take there word for just about anything. 2. distrust will lead to questioning which will lead to plotting which will lead to an assault which will eventually create....a betrayle all im saying is the elder gods are over confident and are careless they always have a task for rayden and not for themselves.

You don't submit your thoughts and opinions just for the dragon points man! You submit them for the following reasons:
- You thought it over and you think it will really happen
- You want to do what you did, whether it's submission, or thoughts on MKA
Sure you would expect to get dragon points, but you don't go around asking for them. Moderators and gods give out dragon points when they
feel that the member deserves them. Back to your theory:
In MK4, as Shadaloo has stated above, the elder gods give him the status as an elder god. What more of a thanks do you want then that? It was in DA that he gave it up to protect the mortals. Although that I agree with you on Raiden's attempt to destroy the elder gods, you have to make sense in your thoughts before they mean anything.
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its very simple they both have a common foe rayden is pissed and has hardly any objectives but to kill them first (Elder gods) and Shinnok may like the evil rayden he has a way with words. not much more i can say except they both hate elder gods Maybe not rayden but i mean...c'mon u know he is pissed off at them. (LMAO AT BIG_BRIT) yo man you are supposed to type what is relivant to the post Thimbou mustnt be mensioned here ok man welcome to MKO

hello this is brit im part of the thimbou clan

this idea will probably never happen bc it's just... bad bc raiden is cool and shinnok is not... so raiden should not ally with someone who sux

lol that is a dumb reason i thought Shang tsung and quan chi were the same way Shang tsung to me sux and Quan Chi kicks ass so there u go :) but honestly its called ARMAGEDDON of course there will be Desprate measures.

oh... i guess i have to beg midway that this never happens then

lol well c'mon its very original this cant be that bad i mean if special forces could make it why can't this idea? it doesnt involve pallete swaps,tremor,monster,meat,khamilion,zebron,ninjas,or sorcerors it is all around original and who would ever see Rayden and Shinnok becoming allies? its unpredictable (Please don't respond with any dumb or upsetting phrases like UR on crack or this sux or thats retarded. please keep the RUDE unnecisary stuff to yourself please and thank you)

ure right... who would ever see raiden allied with shinnok? shinnok must die in MKA... FOREVER!!!!!!! until MK Trilogy 3

why...i felt as if u were trying to be a smart alec i may be wrong but i felt some great sarcasm.

Raiden isn't an idiot, he would not ascend to the panatheon of Elder Gods and leave Earthrealm without a protector. It stands to reason that Fujin took his place. And I do believe in a Fight Night chat with the MK team, they mentioned that Fujin was acting protector of Earthrealm during Raiden's absence. This, by the way, is irrelevant, as my point that the Elder Gods did reward Raiden still stands, regardless of Fujin's status.

Where are you getting this? I'm going here off what was explicitly stated in the games, you're going off personal theory and belief, which just so happens to go completely against what the games have shown us. The elder Gods have a policy of Non-involvement, but that doesn't mean they're utter bastards (they probably see their own involvement as making choices for mortals, thus eliminating free will, yada, yada, yada). They don't "curse" Raiden with anything - if a god wishes to fight along with mortals, he must act in the shell of a mortal. These are the rules of the MK universe, and I'm sure they'd apply to the Elder Gods as well, if they deigned to interact with mortals directly.

Not necessarily. Going off common logic, Raiden must realize that the Elder Gods gave him power, and they can take it away just as easily. He wouldn't be fool enough to make a direct move against them. It's not that he distrusts them, he just doesn't always agree with them. And a questioning mind is not indicative of secret plans - it's an indication of independent thought, the ability to think for oneself rather than blindly follow orders. Taking someone's word on anything they say means the individual is a fool. Raiden is not. He's intelligent enough to think that the Elder Gods are wrong, but that doesn't mean he's against them.

ok lets Review "Even against the order of the elder gods Rayden stands against the Deadly Alliance as Earth realms last chance of survival" I go by the game to apparently sir you don't listen to every small word hell listen to any word he defied the elder gods to take out the Deadly Alliance on Deception please don't come back and call me an idiot on this Deception is all the proof you need that he didn't obey them. and about fight night ive never seen or heard of it so i cant fight against that and on DA i never heard of Fujin being mensioned at all. so there u have it it aint a personal theory my god its there in the openings of both MK:D and MK:DA if u cant simply look and see it ur mind is working to little or too much don't go by fight night crap cuz honestly they say alot and change it later in games (SO I HAVE HEARD FROM OTHERS) but yeah i looked at both openings and MK:DA Fujin wasn't mensioned at all not one word on him. MK:D Rayden defied the elder gods to gain Earth Realms Freedom. as for any other delibirate Dis-obeying i don't remember any. unless u possibly count movies...which u prolly don't cuz they don't mix in at all with the games so yeah. all i am saying is if Shinnok and Rayden have the same desires at the same time and have about the same amount of strength what better to do then ally? its very logical (Plan betrayle in the time of your alliance)

Shinnok sux and shinnok needs to die

For the love of...I never said he didn't obey them. It's obvious he doesn't always. I just said that he's not going to up and ally himself with an enemy he fought with for thousands of years. And when it comes to the two of them allying, that IS personal theory.
Fight Night statements are not crap. They're word from the developers themselves, which can be considered canon statements. And it doesn't matter whether or not they change it later - they do that all the time in the games, like they did with Raiden's MKI story - so that argument is invalid.
Raiden has been shown to go against wishes of the gods before. His MKT bio states that the Elder Gods refused to help him stop Kahn's merger, so he transformed himself into a mortal to fight along with them.
I'm not calling you an idiot. I'm saying that any idea that Raiden and Shinnok would join forces is ridiculous. It's like Shang Tsung and Liu Kang joing forces - not going to happen.
Who would you side with, the guys who, apathetic though they may be, have shared interests with you in the past, or the guy that came along and murdered your entire family? Remember, Shinnok wiped out almost all the other gods during MK4.

In this scenario everyone assumes the elder god's are actually enemies of raiden, and that is not the case. They prefer not to get involved because it is not their place to get involved (or so they believe), being apathetic and drawing absolute conclusions on peoples behavior is an act of aggression and villianry, not protectionism, defense, and heroism.
Besides the greater evil between the elder gods and shinnok will always be shinnok as he is a conqueror and certainly not apethetic towards earth realm.

Thimbou:
In Raiden's MK4 Ending, he was given the status of Elder God. He named Fujin as his successor. In MKDA, he came back after he learned of the Deadly Alliance.
Raiden said, "I can no longer stand idly by and watch this evil consume the world. I have relinquished my status of Elder God to return to Earth and lead you all to battle against our old adversaries."
The only reason Fujin wasn't mentioned was because Raiden went back to being the Protector of Earthrealm. Fujin was off somewhere, and he probably had no idea what went on between MKDA and MKD.
As for the him defying the Elder Gods' wishes, that doesn't mean he hates them. It's his duty as Protector of Earthrealm.
There's no way that a Shinnok/Raiden alliance would happen. Raiden still hates Shinnok.

well who says earth can't have two protectors? from what I understand of the mkda storyline, raiden had fujin watch the earth as he went to outworld with his warriors, not a bad idea if you ask me

WHAT?!
If anything, Raiden is secretly trying to convince the Elder Gods to give Shinnok back his position, which is the real reason why he demoted himself.

The Elder Gods didn't create the realms, they split the One Being into many realms, six of them containg the Kamidogu.
The One Being IS existence itself. The only reason why the Elder Gods can exist without it is because they are beyond reality, therfore having a somewhat fabled existence.