Standardization of moves lists

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02/11/2003 02:24 AM (UTC)

I've been thinking about something that might improve the quality of communication in regards to combos, moves, fatalities, codes,...anything that requires button presses.

Reasoning:
If you go out on the net and look for moves lists for any game, you will find many, many different ways of notating them.
This can be confusing and in the event that you compile large amounts of information from the net into one file, for your own use, it makes documents look sloppy.

Example:
Same move taken from different sites:

Standard Fireball : two forward - HIGH PUNCH (can be done in air)
Standard Fireball F F - HIGH PUNCH (can be done in air)
Standard Fireball - F, F, Y (can be done in air)
High Fireball 2F-HP
High Fireball: T,T,HP
(This is rediculous)

So, what I propose is that we come up with some standard system for MK5.org that we be a guidline for how to post those things mentioned above. Not that a person can't post their own way, but having everyone post in a similar manner would help the readability of the forums.

I will elaborate more on specifics of the systems and offer choices for voting if feedback on this is fairly positive.

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•07/22/2004 04:44 AM (UTC) •

I actually think this is a great idea. Only problem is, a lot of times I will see someone post a move such as...

B,D,F + 2

Then someone immediatly asks what 2 is on X-box or PS2.

Either way, at least you are trying to do something constructive and useful. I'll support it!

•07/22/2004 04:53 AM (UTC) •

In the event that this system does come into play then we can create a FAQ for it that we can link to for anyone to get up to snuff on it.

Thanks for the reply.

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•07/22/2004 05:09 AM (UTC) •

Bloody hell have you been mate?

Anyhoo, I think something that relies on the defaults would be best. But, since MKD may still employ the 1,2,3,4 scheme with the buttons, I'm not sure how the proposed scheme would improve on people posting Snake: 1,1,2, CS, 2, CS, CS, 1, 1, 2, B+4 for example.

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•07/22/2004 05:15 AM (UTC) •

ghostdragon Wrote:
Bloody hell have you been mate?

Second that. I know you have a family and all, but always feel free to drop by.

Anyway, I think it's a good system. It'll be more than necessary when MKD is finally released. God, just to think of how crazy this place is going to be after the release day. Worse than MKDA, most likely.

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•07/22/2004 05:30 AM (UTC) •

I think trying to reason out a MKO move list will require study of the High Level Gameplay Thread on the MKDA board. Since MKD will ONLY be on XBox and Ps2, it'll bee a biut easier for people to get aquainted wihth it.

•07/22/2004 05:36 AM (UTC) •

I've been around.
I come to the site all the time, At least 4 or 5 times a week lately, but in the past year about 10 a month.
I just never sign on.
I haven't felt like signing on unless I have something worthwhile to say.
And over the last year there hasn't been a whole lot to talk about.

But anyway, I'll be here more now, and I'll try to post occasionally, but I'm doing this at work (Supervision is great), because I don't have a home connection anymore (for the time being).
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Anyway the system wasn't necessarily for the attack buttons, but more for dircectionals and abbreviations like QCF and stuff like that.
I just hate scrolling down through a page and having to learn to decipher 10 different styles.

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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
ghostdragon Wrote:
Bloody hell have you been mate?

Second that. I know you have a family and all, but always feel free to drop by.

Anyway, I think it's a good system. It'll be more than necessary when MKD is finally released. God, just to think of how crazy this place is going to be after the release day. Worse than MKDA, most likely.

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•07/22/2004 05:43 AM (UTC) •

Back, Down, Back= BDB or ???
Toward, Toward, Back= TTB or ???

Ugh! Lack of sleep and most of all, green tea can do this to a person. Whatever get's created, it needs to be simple.

Ghost Dragon

•07/22/2004 05:47 AM (UTC) •

2T, B
F, F, B
2F, B

2T, A(Away)
F, F, A
2F, B
......the list can go on and on.....

ghostdragon Wrote:
Back, Down, Back= BDB or ???
Toward, Toward, Back= TTB or ???

Ugh! Lack of sleep and most of all, green tea can do this to a person. Whatever get's created, it needs to be simple.

Ghost Dragon

also the FAQ should include something that specifies some sort of reference for distances use of objects, charge moves....other crap like that.. well that's my last post of the night. Later all.

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•07/22/2004 05:59 AM (UTC) •

Yeah, you get some sleep and I'll just collapse on my keyboard.

I think the way the combos are writen such as:

Hapkido: U+4, 2, 3, B+1 should stay as is cause it's already simplified, but when a few techniques are added, there's when their simplified version would come into play.

Hapkido: U+4, [B,T,1], CS, 2, 2, CS, 3, [T,B,3].

Hmmmmm.... maybe how the line is writen might could also be improved upon as well.

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J'ai besoin mon lit!

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•07/22/2004 08:58 AM (UTC) •

The numeric system is already widely used for button inputs. I guess there should be a faq for noobs who don't know how to translate the console specific buttons to numeric.

I have a real hard time explaining those things, though. That shit is in the manual, if I'm not mistaken. And a little effort put forth to the human thought process never hurt anyone. If someone can't understand d,d/b,b or hcf or any other notation that's been in use for the past two decades then they prolly should not be posting any notation. It's not difficult. When DA came out sooo many peeps acted like they didn't even want to learn the notation, "it's to confusing..." It's frustrating having to deal with that garbage.

So I guess there should be a "faq"....to explain notation. -_-

BTW: I don't know any hardcore fighting fans who use the Towards(T) Away(A) system. That's just scruby, like gamefaqs scruby. It's in-efficient at best. What should be used is the numeric system to explain directional inputs, like in asia. I'm sure that would go over real well with a lot of MKer's, though.