Superman in a fighting game is somewhat absurb!
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posted07/06/2008 03:59 AM (UTC)by
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Ninjor
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12/19/2003 10:54 PM (UTC)
Think about it, he's Superman. He could kill anyone with one punch or kick in one second, or just toss them into outer space with one throw. I understand characters like Batman and Catwoman, since their human, but Superman is a tad TOO powerful to be fighting these other characters. Any thoughts on this? Maybe it's a weaker Superman in this game. Who knows. :)
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Deathbearer
07/05/2008 02:20 AM (UTC)
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This has been answered by Boon but since you don't know I'll tell you. {clears throat}

Superman = vulnerable to magic.

MK = Lots of magic.

Cataclysm that brings DC and MK together = magic

Superman + magic = not invincible and super powerful and shit
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jbthrash
07/05/2008 02:20 AM (UTC)
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Ed Boon already said he would weaken him some how with magic so it's more of a fair fight.
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07/05/2008 02:27 AM (UTC)
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Deathbearer Wrote:
This has been answered by Boon but since you don't know I'll tell you. {clears throat}

Superman = vulnerable to magic.

MK = Lots of magic.

Cataclysm that brings DC and MK together = magic

Superman + magic = not invincible and super powerful and shit


lol, nice sum up.
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Ninjor
07/05/2008 02:32 AM (UTC)
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OK, but isn't kryptonite the ONLY thing that weakens Superman, according to the comics. Plus, magical MK people wouldn't have time to use their magic against him, because he's just so quick. I'm not trying to piss anyone off here, I just think it's a tad goofy. :)
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07/05/2008 02:41 AM (UTC)
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Nope, it's not the only thing that weakens him. Magic also deals him damage. Also, Red Sun takes away his powers and thus weakens him severly. So kryptonite, while it is his main (and better known) weakness, is not the the only means by which he can be weakened/harmed.
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Deathbearer
07/05/2008 02:43 AM (UTC)
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since you didn't know he was weak to magic, Ninj, I'm going to pretty much assume that you don't know what you're talking about. Just stop and accept the answer to your question.
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Wanderer
07/05/2008 03:00 AM (UTC)
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If you won't accept his weaknesses as answer, then you should also know that Superman deliberately holds back his power so he doesn't inadvertently kill anybody. Pretty much every DC hero does this if they're too strong.
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Icebaby
07/05/2008 03:23 AM (UTC)
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It's not absurb, it's ranting. Ranting is only spamming.

Though, I must say, just because you have a character that is invincible doesn't mean that he needs to be the almighty powerful great one in the game.

Heh, I'm going to laugh if Midway makes Superman as a low-tier character. That would make me laugh... even though I know it won't happen, I'll just laugh if it does.
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07/05/2008 03:41 AM (UTC)
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To sum up Superman's vulnerabilities:

Magic

He's not exactly WEAK to magic, he's just vulnerable to it. Basically Magic overrides his invulnerability. Which means that, when hit with something magical in nature, it would be exactly like hitting a regular Kryptonian that hasn't been exposed to yellow sunlight with it. However, Kryptonians have denser body structure than humans, so he's still pretty damn tough, even when his invulnerability isn't in effect.

Basically what this adds up to is:

Punching Superman with a fist infused with magic is like punching a, markedly denser, regular guy with the same magic fist, though your fist will probably take a bit more recoil due to his denser structure.

Also, if a spell is cast on Superman it will have the same effect as if it were cast on any normal human. No more, no less.

Sunlight:

Red sunlight doesn't hurt him, it just doesn't give him any powers. However, his body also stores yellow sunlight like a battery. This results in his powers being drained away slowly due to not having anything feeding into them. However, the weakest he can get is the level of a regular kryptonian.

Major forms of Kryptonite:

Green - Removes his powers and slowly kills him.

Red - Totally random effect, lasts 1-2 days, after the effect wears off Superman is immune to that particular piece of red kryptonite forever.

Red (Television Version) - Removes his inhibitions and morals.

Gold - Permanently removes kryptonian ability to metabolize yellow sunlight, taking away their powers forever.

For the rest - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite#Forms_of_kryptonite
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07/05/2008 05:42 AM (UTC)
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Raiden in a fighting game is somewhat absurd!
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07/05/2008 06:07 PM (UTC)
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Ninjor Wrote:
Think about it, he's Superman. He could kill anyone with one punch or kick in one second, or just toss them into outer space with one throw. I understand characters like Batman and Catwoman, since their human, but Superman is a tad TOO powerful to be fighting these other characters. Any thoughts on this? Maybe it's a weaker Superman in this game. Who knows. :)


Think: Superman vs Raiden, you think Superman's going to win?

That's like pitting Goliath against God and expecting Goliath to win. It's not going to happen. Superman is about to face gods and people with god-like power. He doesn't stand a chance.
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07/05/2008 08:43 PM (UTC)
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Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Raiden in a fighting game is somewhat absurd!


Hah. Raiden is one hell of a weak God. A couple of dumb ass sorcerors kicked his ass.
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07/05/2008 08:49 PM (UTC)
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Token Wrote:

Hah. Raiden is one hell of a weak God. A couple of dumb ass sorcerors kicked his ass.


Raiden is not supposed to be omnipotent, you know?

His abilities are quite limited. Still, I don't understand why Raiden couldn't have just blew them up. I guess Ed Boon really wanted a crappy intro.
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07/05/2008 09:08 PM (UTC)
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Token Wrote:
Mick-Lucifer Wrote:
Raiden in a fighting game is somewhat absurd!


Hah. Raiden is one hell of a weak God. A couple of dumb ass sorcerors kicked his ass.


it took a bad haircut and one Shao Khan's fireball to kill him
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07/06/2008 03:59 AM (UTC)
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Ninjor Wrote:
Think about it, he's Superman. He could kill anyone with one punch or kick in one second, or just toss them into outer space with one throw. I understand characters like Batman and Catwoman, since their human, but Superman is a tad TOO powerful to be fighting these other characters. Any thoughts on this? Maybe it's a weaker Superman in this game. Who knows. :)

Your question has been answered; there are several ways to get around Superman's strength and invulnerability, just like Raiden, Fujin, and the other God characters defeated by mortals.
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