The Endings that may have happened and who could still return - (based on the returning characters)
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posted03/28/2004 01:18 PM (UTC)by
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Basically, at the end of MKDA, the only ending that could even be considered to be true is Raidens. He has seen the coming threats and so we knew that the Oni, vampires or the Dragon King were going to cause problems. Taking into account the returning characters, we should be able to guess which endings happened.

We know Scorpion is in the game. Given his look, not much has changed about him and so Drahmins ending may not have happened. Scorpions ending could possibly have happened, and he has once again come back to complete his revenge. This would account for his slightly altered appearance, unless this is just a cover-up.

We know the DK is in the game. This clearly tells us that Blazes and Reptiles endings happened, as well as Nitaras and Cyraxs. All four continued on from each the others ending. This can also explain why Nitara hasn’t be seen. She may not be back at all, or she could be replaced by a new vampire. As for Cyrax, he may or may not be in the game. Also, it means Blaze could be back. He left to continue his mission. Will we find out what it was?

Sub-Zero is back. There is still speculation about which Sub-Zero he is. If he is the Sub that was in MKDA, then his ending must have happened. No other ending save Frosts (although there was a mention in Mavados) mentioned him and his followed on from Frosts. Frost fans, it looks like she won’t be back. She is severely injured by her own greed and lust for power so it’s unlikely we’ll see her.

Noob is in the game. This should’ve been seen since it was definitely canon that he killed Goro. This also makes it look like Kitanas ending will have happened. However, it is not sufficient proof that the Princess will be back. Noobs entrance also marks the fact that Sektor and Sareena could be in the game.

Mileena is back. When she is there, Kitana is sure to follow, yet there ahs been no word on her. With sindel also returning, we may see Kitana.

Kenshi has returned. His ending showed him killing Shang. If this is true, Kung Laos ending didn’t happen and so he probably won’t be back. If Kenshis ending didn’t happen, then Sonyas may have happened and Kenshi is back on Earth, but he is probably after Mavado. This would also prove that Cyraxs ending happened and so Sonya, Jax, Cyrax and Kenshi are now on Earth. If Kung Laos ending didn’t happen, Master Chos ending also didn’t happen. So what has happened to them if this is the case?

Cages ending is a joke and always was! This is the one ending we know would never happen! Cage beating the DA on his own is the most ridiculous thing ever imo!

Li Mei is apparently back, but the pic of her shows her as human. She was only mentioned in her ending and so may be a soldier. But since she has appeared as human, her ending probably hasn’t happened or she has been freed from the soldiers’ body. Who knows? Also, she won the tournament so what does that mean for everyone else?

Jaxs ending saw him killing Hsu Hao. If that happened, we can assume Hsu Haos ending happened. You see the same image (almost) of Hsu Hao running at the end of it and it leads straight to Jaxs and so Hsu Hao is now dead.

Now for the big one! The endings surrounding the DA! If any of their endings have happened, Li Meis probably has, meaning that she won the tournament they held. If Quans happened, he’ll be back. Shang is dead along with Kano and we’ll see Liu Kano in action! And this also means Mavados ending probably did happen.So I hope his has not happened. If Kanos happened, Sonya is dead and this could mean that her ending did not happen. This would mean that Kenshi probably did in fact kill Shang at some point. And now Kano is all powerful, sort of. If Shangs ending happened, Quan is no more and Shang is in power. There has been no mention of the DA really. This could mean Kano has the amulet, his ending happened, and he has now killed both Shang and Quan along with Sonya. However, if Mavados ending happened, Kano is no more and neither Shang or Quans endings happened as Kano has to be alive for both to happen.

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queve
03/24/2004 07:01 PM (UTC)
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Kanos/Quan Chis and some other guy ending WONT happen. They are not cannon. I think this was cofirmed some time ago.

I liked Cages ending and I think HE could win MKDA, he has proven to be one GREAT warrior, he has been around since Mk1 and the team never wanted to kill him, they only did that cause of the troubles they had with the guy who played him.

*SPOILER FOR "SOME" PEOPLE*







Well, Li Mei is back as most of you already know, and her ending could had happened but ONLY part of it.

REMEMBER, most endings happen but ONLY a FEW parts of them.

Good thread BTW. smile
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03/24/2004 07:21 PM (UTC)
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queve Wrote:
Kanos/Quan Chis and some other guy ending WONT happen. They are not cannon. I think this was cofirmed some time ago.

I liked Cages ending and I think HE could win MKDA, he has proven to be one GREAT warrior, he has been around since Mk1 and the team never wanted to kill him, they only did that cause of the troubles they had with the guy who played him.

*SPOILER FOR "SOME" PEOPLE*

Well, Li Mei is back as most of you already know, and her ending could had happened but ONLY part of it.

REMEMBER, most endings happen but ONLY a FEW parts of them.

Good thread BTW.


Thanks, Queve. I didn't know of the confirmation that Kano and Quans endings won't be happening.

I seriously don't think Cage would be able to beat the DA. At least, not on his own anyway.

Only parts of endings! That adds a new twist!
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03/28/2004 06:23 AM (UTC)
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The thing with MKDA is that unlike the previous MKs, many of the endings junctioned in with each other, with a few obvious exceptions.

I think you're correct that we can count on a lot of the endings being valid(with reptile's even being offical). The creators knew that the story was taking a stronger precedance than any of other MK. I mean, after seeing two movies, comics, a cartoon, and a live-action series, they must have taken the hint somewhere.

You bring up some good points. I admit that I was wondering for the longest time how they could exclude Noob from the game after what happened with him and Goro. Turns out he made the cut.
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03/28/2004 06:42 AM (UTC)
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tgrant Wrote:Sub-Zero is back. There is still speculation about which Sub-Zero he is. If he is the Sub that was in MKDA, then his ending must have happened. No other ending save Frosts (although there was a mention in Mavados) mentioned him and his followed on from Frosts. Frost fans, it looks like she won’t be back. She is severely injured by her own greed and lust for power so it’s unlikely we’ll see her.


What do you mean Sub-Zero's ending must have happened?

Also you said "She is severely injured by her own greed and lust for power so it’s unlikely we’ll see her." What the fuck are you talking about?Frost's ending might not have happened.I doubt you work at Midway so you don't know any more about the endings as I do.


Other than that your predictions sound greatgrin
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You-Know-Who
03/28/2004 07:00 AM (UTC)
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It is likely that Sonya's ending did happen, but then you have the problem of the character slots. I know the roster isn't anywhere near final, but I think all four should be in if Sonya's ending happened.

I agree with Hsu Hao now being dead. He was a great fighter and a great character, but I think there needs to be more of a developement with Jax's character (he just ripped a guy's heart from his body, talk about ruthless).

It looks like Mavado's ending happened, which implies Sub-Zero and Frost'd happened, which implies Sonya's happened, which implies Kenshi's did not.

Bo' Rai Cho's role in Konquest almost confirms his ending, as well as Kung Lao's, which shuns Kenshi's.
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You-Know-Who
03/28/2004 07:03 AM (UTC)
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Then there's Scorpion's. He's back so that means Quan Chi is more than likely alive, which dissolves a good chance of Shang Tsung's and Kano's happening (although Scorps could be trying to get revenge on the person who killed Quan Chi, whether that be Sub-Zero, Frost, Raiden, The Dragon King, Shang Tsung, Kano, Sonya, Jax or anyone).
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cartmansp
03/28/2004 07:19 AM (UTC)
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You-Know-Who Wrote:It looks like Mavado's ending happened, which implies Sub-Zero and Frost's happened, which implies Sonya's happened, which implies Kenshi's did not.



How the fuck does it look like Mavado's ending happened?
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You-Know-Who
03/28/2004 08:58 AM (UTC)
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cartmansp Wrote:
How the fuck does it look like Mavado's ending happened?


With the return of Kabal. You have no reason to have Kabal without Mavado, and you have no reason to have Mavado without the fallout of his ending.
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03/28/2004 09:10 AM (UTC)
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You-Know-Who Wrote:
cartmansp Wrote:
How the fuck does it look like Mavado's ending happened?

With the return of Kabal. You have no reason to have Kabal without Mavado, and you have no reason to have Mavado without the fallout of his ending.

You have a point. I would not be surprised at all if Mavado returns. Of course, I doubt Kano would be killed by Mavado. Kano has escaped death many times, and Im sure he could do it again........
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03/28/2004 09:11 AM (UTC)
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You-Know-Who Wrote:
cartmansp Wrote:
How the fuck does it look like Mavado's ending happened?

With the return of Kabal. You have no reason to have Kabal without Mavado, and you have no reason to have Mavado without the fallout of his ending.


Actually Mavado hasn't been confirmed.For all we know Kabal might kill him in the opening FMV movie.
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03/28/2004 09:17 AM (UTC)
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In Sub-Zero's ending it only says something like"Sub-Zero brought a severely injured Frost back to the Lin Kuei temple." That doesn't mean Frost's ending had to happen.For all we know Frost was injured helping Sub-Zero defeat the Deadly Alliance.So she might not be greedy and selfish like her ending made her appear.


Just trying to clear up some confusionwink
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03/28/2004 09:23 AM (UTC)
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cartmansp Wrote:
In Sub-Zero's ending it only says something like"Sub-Zero brought a severely injured Frost back to the Lin Kuei temple." That doesn't mean Frost's ending had to happen.For all we know Frost was injured helping Sub-Zero defeat the Deadly Alliance.So she might not be greedy and selfish like her ending made her appear.


Just trying to clear up some confusion

Well, im betting that Frost did try to take the DM and got injured in the process. But I doubt she died in her ending. Most likely, after she was consumed by her kori powers, Subby retreived his medallion and managed to save her. But then there is the chance that her ending did not happen, and i highly doubt the MK team would kill her off this fast. I have no idea if she is gonna be in MKD or not. I hope she is, but if she isnt im sure she will be included in a later game.......
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Dark_No0B
03/28/2004 09:28 AM (UTC)
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I think subzeros and frosts ending did happen. Frost got injured while having the medalian, and subzero saved her at the last second. IMO, i think frost never died and got healed when subzero bought her to the lin kuei.
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03/28/2004 01:18 PM (UTC)
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TemperaryUserName Wrote:
The thing with MKDA is that unlike the previous MKs, many of the endings junctioned in with each other, with a few obvious exceptions.

I think you're correct that we can count on a lot of the endings being valid(with reptile's even being offical). The creators knew that the story was taking a stronger precedance than any of other MK. I mean, after seeing two movies, comics, a cartoon, and a live-action series, they must have taken the hint somewhere.

You bring up some good points. I admit that I was wondering for the longest time how they could exclude Noob from the game after what happened with him and Goro. Turns out he made the cut.


I read that Konqrr confirmed Hsu Hao as dead which would mean that Jaxs ending actually happened. So, if it is true, that could mean Hsu Haos own ending did happen. The fact that the endings are now connected makes them easier to understand, but it doesn’t take away the theory behind trying to figure out whose actually happened.

cartmansp Wrote:

What do you mean Sub-Zero's ending must have happened?

Also you said "She is severely injured by her own greed and lust for power so it’s unlikely we’ll see her." What the fuck are you talking about?Frost's ending might not have happened.I doubt you work at Midway so you don't know any more about the endings as I do.

Other than that your predictions sound great


Calm down dude! Lol And thanks.

Throughout what I wrote in my initial post I was making assumptions. Although it is fair to say that Nitara, Cyraxs, Reptiles and Blazes endings did happen.

As for Sub-Zeros ending, again I’m making an assumption. I figured that because no other ending saved his and Frosts mentioned either of them, (except for that brief mention) that it must mean that theirs happen regardless.

And I said what I said about Frost for the same reason as I said Sub-Zeros must have happened. It would explain her absence seeing as she would be too injured to take part in MKD, especially since it follows on from where MKDA ended! And no, I don’t work at Midway, again I’m just assuming things and making my own theories.

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It is likely that Sonya's ending did happen, but then you have the problem of the character slots. I know the roster isn't anywhere near final, but I think all four should be in if Sonya's ending happened.

I agree with Hsu Hao now being dead. He was a great fighter and a great character, but I think there needs to be more of a developement with Jax's character (he just ripped a guy's heart from his body, talk about ruthless).

It looks like Mavado's ending happened, which implies Sub-Zero and Frost'd happened, which implies Sonya's happened, which implies Kenshi's did not.

Bo' Rai Cho's role in Konquest almost confirms his ending, as well as Kung Lao's, which shuns Kenshi's.


As I said earlier, apparently Konqrr confirmed Hsu Hao as dead. If Sonyas ending did happen, it doesn’t neceassarily mean that they’ll be in the game. Kenshi is back, but Sonya could be sitting this one out to do other things. Who knows what the MK Team will add to the plot? There is the behind the scenes stuff to take into account.

You-Know-Who Wrote:
Then there's Scorpion's. He's back so that means Quan Chi is more than likely alive, which dissolves a good chance of Shang Tsung's and Kano's happening (although Scorps could be trying to get revenge on the person who killed Quan Chi, whether that be Sub-Zero, Frost, Raiden, The Dragon King, Shang Tsung, Kano, Sonya, Jax or anyone).


Actually, if Shangs ending happened, Quan is dead! So Scorpion would be very pissed about that! He’d probably be on Shangs tail now to get him for killing Quan. Quan does not die in any other ending, although he may have done if Kanos ending happened. In it he kills Sonya and keeps the amulet. He may seek to destroy both sorcerors. This would mean Scorpion could possibly be after Kano.

MetadragonX Wrote:

cartmansp Wrote:
In Sub-Zero's ending it only says something like"Sub-Zero brought a severely injured Frost back to the Lin Kuei temple." That doesn't mean Frost's ending had to happen.For all we know Frost was injured helping Sub-Zero defeat the Deadly Alliance.So she might not be greedy and selfish like her ending made her appear.

Just trying to clear up some confusion

Well, im betting that Frost did try to take the DM and got injured in the process. But I doubt she died in her ending. Most likely, after she was consumed by her kori powers, Subby retreived his medallion and managed to save her. But then there is the chance that her ending did not happen, and i highly doubt the MK team would kill her off this fast. I have no idea if she is gonna be in MKD or not. I hope she is, but if she isnt im sure she will be included in a later game.......


I also doubt she died. Again, taking the amulet would explain her absence. She would be too injured to participate in MKD. In this way, she could be back for MK7 or a later game.


Dark_No0B Wrote:
I think subzeros and frosts ending did happen. Frost got injured while having the medalian, and subzero saved her at the last second. IMO, i think frost never died and got healed when subzero bought her to the lin kuei.


Yeah, I think he will have saved her and healed her. As above, she won’t be fully recovered and therefore not able to take in MKD. This would account for her absence if she isn’t in the game.

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