The Sindel Thread
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posted08/06/2006 09:34 AM (UTC)by
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09/06/2005 03:40 AM (UTC)
i decided to create this thread to talk about what changes people want for Sindel and what should stay.
Sindel has been my favorite character since MK3 when she was awesome to use because of her specials and powerful swift punch combos. Sadly in MKD i didn't see much of a good character. Zha Chuan lacked effective moves and was just mostly unnecessay. Mostly used it for b+1. The style that i hope Sindel has in MKA is Fu Jow Pai. She had so many fast pokes and she was able to recover from her strikes pretty quickly. Kwan Dao is just alright in my book but i still wish she had a whip.Using fast quick strikes with a whip seems more like Sindel to me then swinging a Kwan Dao everywhere.
Specials that should return
Banshee Scream: this is obviously Sindel's trademark move. Hopefully in MKA it won't be too linear like it was in MKD but then again the screams seemed to work in Deception when they shouldn't XD.
Hair Throw: This move was greatly missed in Mortal Kombat Deception. This move was quick and did decent amounts of damage. I wouldn't mind if this is one of her specials or her actual throw but hopefully they get rid of MKD's throw. Her MKD throw was pretty weak and her recovery took very long.
Slide: Improve it a little bit. Maybe make it part of a combo.
Fireball (Star screamer? forgot name): Leave it the way it is. Fast and easy to use glasses
Levitate: I would love to see this return because it would bring back good memories but hopefully it would be useful. Make her land quicker or make her move a little bit faster.
Levitate fireball: A nice move to use when the character is far off in the distance.
Ones i decided to make up :)
Hair slam: Sindel grabs her opponents body with her hair and slams them up and down which launches them in the air giving her a oppurtinty to perform juggles
Teleport: She teleports LOL
Do discuss any future changes you want for Sindel and what you want to stay wink
(Sorry for the poor english )
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04/10/2006 11:46 AM (UTC)
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Sindel has been a fave of mine ever since MK3 also. She's a great character and it was nice to see her back in MKD. What she needs is a bit more powerful behind her attacks as she was pretty feeble in that area compared to the likes of Ashrah and especially Jade.
Her styles should remain as Fu Jow Pai and Kwan Do for MKA. Zha Chuan should be gotten rid of completely. No one else should have it. It's pretty useful as a style.
All of her old specials need to come back.
The Scream should not reduce damage and you should be able to cancel it if you miss with it so that you're not left open for attack.
The Projectile she had in MKD should come back along with a double version like the old one she had back in MKT.
Her diagonal aerial projectile should return along with her float or Fly move. I guess they'd have to keep to 2D movement with that otherwise it'd be cheap being able to fly around in a 3D environment unless they made the start up time long and limited the time she can stay in the air.
Her Foot Grab from MKD could do with being a little safer.
The hair throw from the old games hould come back and perhaps a few other attacks with her hair like a trip or a spin.
I don't agree with her having a teleport. She doesn't need it, imo.
Storywise, she was ok in MKD and she had the best ending in the game. It's a shame that they have to tie her in with Kitana all the time. She needs to stray away from the typical Edenian story and gain a more independent story.
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04/10/2006 06:35 PM (UTC)
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Sindel is a cool character who I was glad to see return in MKD. To me, she is the MILF of the series. (hehe tongue)
Appearance: She has that whole sexy, goth look. I love her alternate costume. However, I wish she did have something that was truly regal...well..something like a royal battle armor...not anything big and heavy, but you know...I think it would be a good look for her.
Story: She has a cool backstory, but for her current story, it needs more development; MKA might set up her story for her death or maybe her just passing the title of Queen of Edenia to Kitana; Or maybe something else will happen. I thought of a story concept in which she and Shao Kahn cross paths on their way to finding Onaga and that Shao Kahn makes an offer with her in that they'll join forces to take down Onaga and that his Shokan warriors will aid the Edenian/Outworld combined forces against Onaga's minions, but in return, Sindel must become his queen again.
Gameplay: Well, she had been higher up tier-wise in the 2D MK's, but is a lower-tier character in MKD due to her Zha Chuan style and her throw.
Although Fu Jow Pai is far better than Zha Chuan in terms of gameplay, I think she should keep Zha Chuan as I find it to be more fitting for her. The reason being is because Zha Chuan (more commonly spelled as Cha Chuan) is a very graceful and beautiful style and I think that would suit her more than Fu Jow Pai, which is more of a linear, aggressive style of fighting. Zha Chuan definitely needs to be much more useful with more combos and them being useful as well as better mixups and some safe moves like a safe low poke.
When it comes to her weapon, I agree that she should have something like a whip. It would suit her and give her that whole dominatrix feel which would be fantastic, imo. grin
She definitely needs a better throw, and I would like to see all of her special moves.
Fatalities: I would love to see her hair related fatality from MK3-MKT again. For her other fatality, it could be scream related, but it should be different from the way it was in MK3-MKT and MKD. I'll probably have to think of some specific details on that.
Overall: I like Sindel, and I hope they do justice with her by giving her the improvements she needs.
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Keith
04/10/2006 07:59 PM (UTC)
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Appearence: Sindel had one of the greatest appearences in this game. Her primary is so beautiful and her alt is so sexy. I was very pleased with her look in MKD. And I love her new curly hair as opposed to the straight hair from MK3 which didn't look as good.
Story: Best ending and pretty good storyline. Was quite pleased with this.
Kombat: Hmm...Sindel was one of the more fluid and fun characters to use, she felt easy to contol, not static like some of the fighters, yet she was one of the lowest tiered which sucked. As queen of Edenia she needs to be a better fighter. She should keep Fu Jow Pai and Kwan Dao. That being said, Nitara shouldn't get Leopard or Fu Jow Pai, she needs something new and cool. I hate Leopard.
Specials: She needs aerial moves and her hair throw back. Top it off with a better scream and she's perfect. Leave the leg grab and star screamer as they are, they're perfect.
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04/18/2006 02:45 AM (UTC)
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I thought they did a good job with Sindel for the most part. I thought she was one of the best looking characters in the game. There were a few things that I would have done differently with her, though.
For one, I would definitely have included a levitation move. In MK3, that was one of her most defining traits. I felt that Tanya was given moves that were more suited to Sindel's character, and vice versa. The air fireball, in particular. I thought Sindel's moves should be more along the lines of sorcery, considering her age and status.
I didn't mind the kwandao she used, but I agree that a whip or extendable weapon of some kind would be great for her. The hair moves I could do without. I always thought her throw from MK3 was kind of corny. I liked her sonic moves the best.
Overall, though, I thought Sindel's revamp in MKD was great. I think I used her more than any other character.
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08/05/2006 10:46 PM (UTC)
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She did have the best ending in MKD. I dont wanna say how to improve her cause I wont be shocked when she gets killed off for MK8. Trust me, I would like nothing more than to see her back, because her story is just to amazing, but they will pass the torch to Kitana to have things flow.
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The_Dragon69
08/05/2006 10:55 PM (UTC)
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I know! she was one of my favorites but sucked in mkd i think she needs her fly move and her scream should sound differant i dont like that high pitched squeal i want them to bring back her original scream i loved it
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08/05/2006 10:56 PM (UTC)
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Keith Wrote:
She should keep Fu Jow Pai and Kwan Dao. That being said, Nitara shouldn't get Leopard or Fu Jow Pai, she needs something new and cool. I hate Leopard.

Actually, I think that these are how the styles should go:
Sindel - Fu Jow Pai, Kwan Dao
Nitara - Leopard, Kama
Darrius - Shinto Ryu, Gauntlets
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08/05/2006 10:57 PM (UTC)
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Sindel is an interesting character that has been a fan favourite for quite a while her story is all about getting kahn killed and getting edenia back on its feet forming alliegances with kitana jade etc along the way and made formiddable foes such as tanya kahn etc
she is an exellant fighter with specials that top many such as star screamer banshee scream leg grab which is also used by sonya and hair grab which is my favourite I would like to see what they have made of them moves by mk:armageddon but not long now.
overall I think shes a great chracter with good storyline potential who I would like to see in next gen mortal kombat.
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Keith
08/05/2006 11:06 PM (UTC)
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This thread is old....but we need a Sindel thread so can we keep it open?
Pwetty pwease with me and beer on top?grin
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08/05/2006 11:43 PM (UTC)
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owen_pwned Wrote:she is an exellant fighter with specials that top many such as star screamer banshee scream leg grab which is also used by sonya and hair grab which is my favourite I would like to see what they have made of them moves by mk:armageddon but not long now

sindels sliding leg grab is completly differant than sindels they dont both use it
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08/05/2006 11:47 PM (UTC)
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Technically I am too tired, and far-fetched to bother going through my discussion, but meh...noone will care, noone will bother, and noone
will notice.

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Keith
08/05/2006 11:50 PM (UTC)
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Is that Sindel being killed by a ninja? I knew you hated Sindel but of all the characters in MK, you of all people, chose a ninja. That's harsh Chrome.sad
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08/05/2006 11:50 PM (UTC)
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Keith Wrote:
This thread is old....but we need a Sindel thread so can we keep it open?
Pwetty pwease with me and beer on top?grin
yea sindel rule!!
kinda funny i didnt see that this thread was old until i saw your late post here. i was all ready to yell at tgrant for stealing my idea about having sindel be able to stop screaming (cancel)when the player wanted her to. he posted the idea 1st so i cant yell.
im glad we see eye to eye on that one, maybe the mk team has thought of it as well.
i posted many times about sindel
loved her looks in MKD and her fatals. keep them both i dont care. hers and mileenas fatals are the only ones i still do to this day.
moves
Scream~but let us be able to cancel it at will. its dumb to have her sit there and scream for a certain amount of time leaving her open for attacks. you dont see sub zero standing there for 2 hours after a blocked ice ball/clone.
ground fireball
air fireball-have this one hit mid like tanyas air fireball.
leg grab
every one loves her hair whip so bring that back as her throw. no way in hell do they bring back her throw from MKD unless it recovers way faster.
styles
FJP and Kwan do
w/ a good throw her 50/50 will finally appear and she will move from low tier to upper mid IMO.
she would have been upper mid w/ FJP and Kwan do if she had a real throw.
those who have no idea how bad her throw was Watch this vid
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The_Dragon69
08/05/2006 11:51 PM (UTC)
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Chrome Wrote:Technically I am too tired, and far-fetched to bother going through my discussion, but meh...noone will care, noone will bother, and noone
will notice.

actually i like your explanations and theorys. I think they're really interesting also cool art man
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Keith
08/05/2006 11:55 PM (UTC)
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danadbab Wrote:
Keith Wrote:
This thread is old....but we need a Sindel thread so can we keep it open?
Pwetty pwease with me and beer on top?grin
yea sindel rule!!
kinda funny i didnt see that this thread was old until i saw your late post here. i was all ready to yell at tgrant for stealing my idea about having sindel be able to stop screaming (cancel)when the player wanted her to. he posted the idea 1st so i cant yell.
im glad we see eye to eye on that one, maybe the mk team has thought of it as well.
i posted many times about sindel
loved her looks in MKD and her fatals. keep them both i dont care. hers and mileenas fatals are the only ones i still do to this day.
moves
Scream~but let us be able to cancel it at will. its dumb to have her sit there and scream for a certain amount of time leaving her open for attacks. you dont see sub zero standing there for 2 hours after a blocked ice ball/clone.
ground fireball
air fireball-have this one hit mid like tanyas air fireball.
leg grab
every one loves her hair whip so bring that back as her throw. no way in hell do they bring back her throw from MKD unless it recovers way faster.
styles
FJP and Kwan do
w/ a good throw her 50/50 will finally appear and she will move from low tier to upper mid IMO.
she would have been upper mid w/ FJP and Kwan do if she had a real throw.
those who have no idea how bad her throw was Watch this vid

Yeah that video is horrifying. Sindel is the milf of Mortal Kombat, she deserves special treatment and awesome fighting abilities. She needs all her classic moves and needs to be a lot safer when using her specials. She needs a decent throw as well. Despite her alarming lack of competence in Deception she was quite fun to use against the computer or those who don't use throws. She was fluid and comfortable. If they could keep that and make her like...useful. She'd be fantastic. Sindel for next gen. grin
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08/06/2006 07:05 AM (UTC)
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Sindel is definitely the most stylish character in all of Mortal Kombat. As you can tell by my user name, I love her! She's been my favorite character since she came out. What I'd like to see from her in MK:A...
Definitely a better fighting style. Fu Jow Pai was her best but I hated her pose with it... very graceless. I'd also like her to have a better weapon. Her stick thing was easy to use and affective, but now that you guys mentioned she should have a whip, I can't help but agree. If they stick with her Kwan Dao thing I wouldn't mind though.
Her specials and fatalities are the most important thing to me.
- Her Sonic Shriek needs to be improved with a better sounding scream sound. You can tell the MK:D version of it was created by computer rather than by someone's actual voice, like in MK3. It sounded more like wind or the engine of an airplane that an actual shriek.
-Her Flying must definitely return. I remember it was one of the most famous moves in MK3. At least she flies for her winning pose and to stand up after a defeat in MK:D. The added glowing smoke makes the whole move look a million times better. She should be able to fly like this in MK:A for her pose, after a defeat, and also DURING battle. I guess to make this fair to the characters that can't fly, Sindel should be allowed to fly temporarily only, unlike MK3, like Ermac in MK:D.
-Her Hair Whip was also a very famous move and it should return for MK:A. She should also be able to execute other attacks with her hair like a trip or a grab-n-slam or a traditional whip attack that slices flesh.
-Her Star Screamer was very cheap to me in MK:D. It should be a more fierce roaring projectile like in MK3 where is sounded deep and strong. In MK3 it was more a breath ball that she would exhale in the form of a power ball, but in MK:D, it's just a little sparkly thing. I'd like the roaring breath force to return for MK:A along with being able to release two balls like in MKT as well, maybe even three.
-The MK:D Leg Grab was really unlike Sindel. She should have a different move in place of that one for MK:A. ....I don't like seeing my bitch dragging herself through the dirt floor like that. That would go better for Scorpian.
-I love every fatality Sindel has every had, except I think her hair one in MK3 was a little cheap. Should have sliced up her oppenent or something instead of making them spin. Her Kwan Dao fatality is awesome in MK:D! Super cool, as is her shriek one, especially the one from MK3.
I'm positive that Sindel will not return for next-gen Mortal Kombat. I don't why that is, but things just seem to be looking in that direction. It saddens be bigtime and I'll despise Ed Boon if he decides to not let her return.
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08/06/2006 09:34 AM (UTC)
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if kahn and reiko die i think it is possible that she could take over outworld
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