Thoughts on Shujinko and his copy-character abilities
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Thoughts on Shujinko and his copy-character abilities
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posted08/27/2004 06:15 AM (UTC)by

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As it has stated that he will not only have his own moves, but the ability to use special moves from other characters.
I personally do not like the idea of him having the ability to use scorpions spear, or sub zeros freeze, etc...
In a way that is like a Shang Tsung except without the morphing feature. Why do this?
It would make more sense to have Shang Tsung back in the game to do this. It is his known trait.
I hate how Midway just give away a characters special abilities to other new characters. Why make a new character at all if they aren't really new??
Shujinko should have the ability to use any fighting style (not weapon style, so that is 2 per character) that the other characters have, that would be good!
Just imagine mastering 40+ fighting styles for the one character. A true martial arts expert!
What do you reckon?
I personally do not like the idea of him having the ability to use scorpions spear, or sub zeros freeze, etc...
In a way that is like a Shang Tsung except without the morphing feature. Why do this?
It would make more sense to have Shang Tsung back in the game to do this. It is his known trait.
I hate how Midway just give away a characters special abilities to other new characters. Why make a new character at all if they aren't really new??
Shujinko should have the ability to use any fighting style (not weapon style, so that is 2 per character) that the other characters have, that would be good!
Just imagine mastering 40+ fighting styles for the one character. A true martial arts expert!
What do you reckon?
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I don't mind as long as all the moves cannot be used at the same time. It should be balanced, like if you give him Scorpion's spear, you can't give him Subzero's ice blast, or any other stun move like Bo Rai Cho's hurl or Kabal's spin, same for projectiles and dash/teleport moves.
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| souledge316 Wrote: I don't mind as long as all the moves cannot be used at the same time. It should be balanced, like if you give him Scorpion's spear, you can't give him Subzero's ice blast, or any other stun move like Bo Rai Cho's hurl or Kabal's spin, same for projectiles and dash/teleport moves. |
I agree dude. That's waaaaaaaaaaay too much freedom with a character. I say just allow gamers to have any fighting style-not whatever special moves they have. Then it seems like when ppl go online-a lot of ppl will just pick Shujinko.
Man this freakin sucks Donkey B@lls

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it sucks, sounds like shujinko is ruined already.... i wont use him...


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Trust me, the special moves are NOT going to break Shujinko, the fighting styles will. Projectiles like the spear and freeze ball were not really all that effective in DA.
A Shujinko with a spear or freeze move isn't a Shujinko you should watch out for. You should watch out for the Shujinko with Pi Gua, Tae Kwan Do, and Drunken Fist.
A Shujinko with a spear or freeze move isn't a Shujinko you should watch out for. You should watch out for the Shujinko with Pi Gua, Tae Kwan Do, and Drunken Fist.
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If he has the spear and freeze its almost the same thing just looks different.
A low and high fireballis more uber than a freeze and spear.
A low and high fireballis more uber than a freeze and spear.
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TheTruth: Shujinko with TKS means easy 40% combos for sure. With the ability to choose good stances, he sounds like a possibility for the next powerhouse.
Remember Kenshi? Launch, TKS, jab, TKS, jab, TKS, ender move for easy 40%. TKS for Shujinko basically gurantees his spot for damage. Add that with TKD and he will have exceptionally strong and safe low options. I only hope we can add Crab and Kali sticks so TKD will have the b+4,CS for a high damage low.
Remember Kenshi? Launch, TKS, jab, TKS, jab, TKS, ender move for easy 40%. TKS for Shujinko basically gurantees his spot for damage. Add that with TKD and he will have exceptionally strong and safe low options. I only hope we can add Crab and Kali sticks so TKD will have the b+4,CS for a high damage low.


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I take back what i said to start this thread off.
The way that he can use all the special moves of other characters into combos is fucking awesome!
This character looks unreal!
The way that he can use all the special moves of other characters into combos is fucking awesome!
This character looks unreal!
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Shujinko is like....God I can't put it into words. When I get him, no one will be able to beat me! MWAHAHAHAHA! 
Can you imagine combos w/this fucker.
1.Ermac's TK
2.Sub-Zero's ice blast
3.Scorpion's spear
4.Raiden's torpedo
You can get a good idea how cheap this makes him. That's alot for 1 guy. I would rather have him learn more martial arts moves then "stealing" them from every1 else. I still use him but not as often now.
1.Ermac's TK
2.Sub-Zero's ice blast
3.Scorpion's spear
4.Raiden's torpedo
You can get a good idea how cheap this makes him. That's alot for 1 guy. I would rather have him learn more martial arts moves then "stealing" them from every1 else. I still use him but not as often now.
i already made note of the shang like qualities w/o actual morph on another thread.. but my guess is that this shujinko, the elder one, once unlocked after konquest, will achieve all of the moves learned through out konquest.. im thinkin if you dont learn them they might not be in his special moves list?..most likely the fighting styles as well.. making everyones shunjinko different along with the changable name(if thats still available..dunno if it is anymore) but these are just my thoughts.. anyone?


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| The_Truth Wrote: A Shujinko with a spear or freeze move isn't a Shujinko you should watch out for. You should watch out for the Shujinko with Pi Gua, Tae Kwan Do, and Drunken Fist. |
Why are we assuming the powerhouse stances from MKDA will be powerhouse stances in MKD? Remember, a lot of stances are getting additional moves, and might have some taken out. Remember that a single move is often the key to powerful fighting styles; also remember that Scorpion's Hellfire was what made Pi Gua so deadly. Plus there are lots of new styles, some we haven't even seen yet. Some of these could make Tae Kwon Do look like Cyrax's Ninjitsu.
wow it never ceases to amaze me what you kids will bitch about. i cannot believe people do not like the idea that you can pick special moves and give them to one fighter. its like a dream come true. you can make so many variations of shujinko and take him online and you never know what your opponent can do. thats just awesome as hell. think of the combos; its almost endless the special moves you can link with the stances. and yet that somehow pisses some of you pre-pubers off. truly stumped, i am.
Meh, at face value Shujinko sounds broken with too much overall utility. But time will tell. The worst case scenario is that MK n00bs/figthing game 0.o's will have someone to compete with, and experienced Kombatants will have more of a challenge ahead.
I'm not going to be losing any sleep over it.
In fact, bring that sh*t on.
But regarding the NoobSmoke thing... *vomits*
I'm not going to be losing any sleep over it.
In fact, bring that sh*t on.
But regarding the NoobSmoke thing... *vomits*

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Copy and paste characters don't impress me.
And now that he is supposed to be the next chosen one, I would expect him to be original, not a copy and paste fighter.
Maybe this is why he is the one that can defeat the Dragon King, because he has the powers of almost every fighter in MK.
Still sounds like blah to me, I wish he was more original at least as far as special abilities go.
If he has the same martial arts as the fighters, he should have different combos for them, I don't want a 100% copy job.
I know this was all done to make the story mode more interesting or whatever, but it just seems like a let down for such an important character.
It's also going to be strange how characters like Sub zero took years to master the ice blast, Rayden is a god and can fly, Scorpion throws the spear out of a hole in his hand.
It's like Shujinko meets sub zero and he's like hey Shu., check this out. And all of a sudden Shujinco masters the ice blast in 5 minutes.
Then all of a sudden he learns how to fly when he meets rayden.
Then some how, he can throw a spear out of his hand like Scorpion, only that he's not a specter and he doesn't have the hole in his hand to throw the spear from and he doesn't have a rope anywhere on him to use for the spear.
Things like that are just going to seem strange and out of place.
That's why I think he should develop his own special moves and not copy others.
And now that he is supposed to be the next chosen one, I would expect him to be original, not a copy and paste fighter.
Maybe this is why he is the one that can defeat the Dragon King, because he has the powers of almost every fighter in MK.
Still sounds like blah to me, I wish he was more original at least as far as special abilities go.
If he has the same martial arts as the fighters, he should have different combos for them, I don't want a 100% copy job.
I know this was all done to make the story mode more interesting or whatever, but it just seems like a let down for such an important character.
It's also going to be strange how characters like Sub zero took years to master the ice blast, Rayden is a god and can fly, Scorpion throws the spear out of a hole in his hand.
It's like Shujinko meets sub zero and he's like hey Shu., check this out. And all of a sudden Shujinco masters the ice blast in 5 minutes.
Then all of a sudden he learns how to fly when he meets rayden.
Then some how, he can throw a spear out of his hand like Scorpion, only that he's not a specter and he doesn't have the hole in his hand to throw the spear from and he doesn't have a rope anywhere on him to use for the spear.
Things like that are just going to seem strange and out of place.
That's why I think he should develop his own special moves and not copy others.
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My opinion on Shujinko, he'll make playing around fun, but probably make MK competitive play a bigger joke, so we'll have to wait and see.
"It's like Shujinko meets sub zero and he's like hey Shu., check this out. And all of a sudden Shujinco masters the ice blast in 5 minutes.
Then all of a sudden he learns how to fly when he meets rayden."
lol, I hear you Bleed, and I really hope that this isn't how it all goes down.
Then all of a sudden he learns how to fly when he meets rayden."
lol, I hear you Bleed, and I really hope that this isn't how it all goes down.
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You have to keep in mind in the end it doesnt really matter what moves a charater has ...its how to know when to use them that counts. Every character has pleanty of moves(high atacks, low attacks, blocks high and low, etc.) Like me... nobody should be afraid of an opponent if you mastered your character. The game is equal, how you play is up to you.

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I think customizing your own fighter is a great idea.
This will be a great invention & something that makes it impossible to bitch about the game system. As long as they limit the amount of special moves you can give him to a reasonable number, comparable with other fighters, he won't break the game. There is no way he can have every move as some characters have the same button presses for their special moves. We saw what 5 different moves or 6? If that's how many every character have, I happy with that.
This will be a great invention & something that makes it impossible to bitch about the game system. As long as they limit the amount of special moves you can give him to a reasonable number, comparable with other fighters, he won't break the game. There is no way he can have every move as some characters have the same button presses for their special moves. We saw what 5 different moves or 6? If that's how many every character have, I happy with that.
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| Seraph Wrote: "It's like Shujinko meets sub zero and he's like hey Shu., check this out. And all of a sudden Shujinco masters the ice blast in 5 minutes. Then all of a sudden he learns how to fly when he meets rayden." lol, I hear you Bleed, and I really hope that this isn't how it all goes down. |
I do!!! in MK there is so much hate and violence.. they never sit down over a nice cup of ice mega napolitano vanilla caramel macchiato frappucino with extra sugar anymore...
Anyway.. I like it.. cause hes not like shinnok or tsung...
Anyway.. if they gave him his own moves the would probably be boring ass and repetitive moves... fireball and mega-kick (like Tanya, NItara, Li Mei), MAYBE a dash or something like that if ur lucky...
I mean, with all those characters in the game, it's hard to kep a fireball fresh.. (Liu's, Kobra's, Dairous's foot blast, Darrius's blue one, Ashra's Up/Down one, Sinde;'s mouth one, if jax is in he probably has a pink one, ENOUGH)
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